Bartley Ridge

[sabian]

Merry Christmas everyone!

[mjtam]

Merry X'mas

[herism82]

Merry Merry Christmas to you all

[Condolauncher]

Hey guys I just did a review on Bartley Ridge =) Let me know if there are any points I have missed out.

BTW im a property agent

Check it out here Bartley Ridge Review

Cheers!

[derekong]

A decent review although I would like to add further:

1. Near to MRT is one thing, but near to interchange is another. BR is near to ALL MRT interchange and it transfers one to practically the middle of each MRT line, whether its the EW, NE, NS, or even the Downtown line once its fully completed.

2. Consider buying underdeveloped areas, which provide wider Capital appreciation but is also a gamble on its own. J Gateway and Urban Vista are at more developed areas, thus the bigger pricetag.

3. Safe buffer for Margin Call. With the OCR properties such as Watertown, Urban Vista and J Gateway calling for higher PSF, it provides some buffer for price correction for BR in a way.

4. Uncharted waters in terms of rental as Bartley has a lack of "competing" condos. This is both good and bad.

5. It's Mt Vernon Crematorium, not Cemetery. It's a whole lot of difference!


I think it's obvious I'm biased towards this project...

[teddybear]

- No variety of shopping malls?
- Is it near to any major expressway for driving convenience and saving time?
- How near to Maris Stella Primary? If not within 1km is useless right?
- Near to any major Park like Botanic Garden?
- Any open space so that the units are not looking at the walls of tall towers in own estate or the tall towers of neighbouring estate (blocked and totally short-sighted view)?

A decent review although I would like to add further:

1. Near to MRT is one thing, but near to interchange is another. BR is near to ALL MRT interchange and it transfers one to practically the middle of each MRT line, whether its the EW, NE, NS, or even the Downtown line once its fully completed.

2. Consider buying underdeveloped areas, which provide wider Capital appreciation but is also a gamble on its own. J Gateway and Urban Vista are at more developed areas, thus the bigger pricetag.

3. Safe buffer for Margin Call. With the OCR properties such as Watertown, Urban Vista and J Gateway calling for higher PSF, it provides some buffer for price correction for BR in a way.

4. Uncharted waters in terms of rental as Bartley has a lack of "competing" condos. This is both good and bad.

5. It's Mt Vernon Crematorium, not Cemetery. It's a whole lot of difference!


I think it's obvious I'm biased towards this project...

[DC33_2008]

Bartley Residences will be a better choice as they are on higher ground and more open. I must qualify that I am not vested in both projects.

[iridrium]

Bartley Residences will be a better choice as they are on higher ground and more open. I must qualify that I am not vested in both projects.

Agree that Bartley Residence has a more premium feel and closer to amenities like Kensington Square retail.

Not vested too, not a agent as well.

[玉格格]

- No variety of shopping malls?

future kengsington sq near bartley mrt & market square (near Woodleigh mrt)

- How near to Maris Stella Primary? If not within 1km is useless right?

it is less den 5 mins walk away

- Near to any major Park like Botanic Garden?

no, only near to a free admission man made lake n park.

- Any open space so that the units are not looking at the walls of tall towers in own estate or the tall towers of neighbouring estate (blocked and totally short-sighted view)?

got. if dun wan to face high rise tall neighbouring estates, u can choose to face the main road, or bartley sec sch, or Gurkha.
take yr pick

[玉格格]

Hey guys I just did a review on Bartley Ridge =) Let me know if there are any points I have missed out.

BTW im a property agent

Check it out here Bartley Ridge Review

Cheers!

hi Ridge has been launched for almost coming to a yr and is >85% sold. y do u wan to do a review now?

[玉格格]

3. Safe buffer for Margin Call. With the OCR properties such as Watertown, Urban Vista and J Gateway calling for higher PSF, it provides some buffer for price correction for BR in a way.

lol ... Ridge is in D13, y u compared wif ocr wor?

btw, dun be too happy. the plot of new land besides bartley residences could be bidded at a much lower price den Ridge

[iridrium]

Hey guys I just did a review on Bartley Ridge =) Let me know if there are any points I have missed out.

BTW im a property agent

Check it out here Bartley Ridge Review

Cheers!

Strangely I don't agree with you on most of your analysis. Things like:

Pro - Near To The Huge Tai Seng Industrial Park - I think being near business district and near industrial park is very different. What kind of tenant pool will one be expecting from industrial tenants?

Pro - Closely Connected To The Kallang Paya Lebar Expressway (KPE) - I think it is easier to get to CTE via Bartley flyover than KPE. If you have travel along KPE during morning peak, you will know that exit towards KPE is congested. And convulated. So until the road network there improves.

Pro - Near To Upcoming HDB Development of Bidadari Estate - I don't know how much positive you can get from Bidadari HDB. Especially if you have taken a look at the model, you will find all amenities and the proposed town centre located a distance from Bartley Ridge. And how about the next five - ten years of constructions noise and dust just next to you?

[Condolauncher]

Bartley Residences will be a better choice as they are on higher ground and more open. I must qualify that I am not vested in both projects.

Personally I prefer Bartley Residences as well but it is already sold out.

[玉格格]

Personally I prefer Bartley Residences as well but it is already sold out.

y u prefer bartley resi?

the oni 2 adv is 1. on higher land n 2. nearer to kengsington sq.

[Condolauncher]

hi Ridge has been launched for almost coming to a yr and is >85% sold. y do u wan to do a review now?

cos a few of my clients have been asking me about it and after doing some study i feel that this project still got alot of potential =)

lol ... Ridge is in D13, y u compared wif ocr wor?

btw, dun be too happy. the plot of new land besides bartley residences could be bidded at a much lower price den Ridge

To me thats where the value is, a D13 project priced lower than OCR projects

Strangely I don't agree with you on most of your analysis. Things like:

Pro - Near To The Huge Tai Seng Industrial Park - I think being near business district and near industrial park is very different. What kind of tenant pool will one be expecting from industrial tenants?

Pro - Closely Connected To The Kallang Paya Lebar Expressway (KPE) - I think it is easier to get to CTE via Bartley flyover than KPE. If you have travel along KPE during morning peak, you will know that exit towards KPE is congested. And convulated. So until the road network there improves.

Pro - Near To Upcoming HDB Development of Bidadari Estate - I don't know how much positive you can get from Bidadari HDB. Especially if you have taken a look at the model, you will find all amenities and the proposed town centre located a distance from Bartley Ridge. And how about the next five - ten years of constructions noise and dust just next to you?

Thanks iridrium for the feedback =) here's y i listed them as pros

Near To The Huge Tai Seng Industrial Park

I do agree with you that the tenant profiles in business districts and industrial districts are different. However, as I have served many tenants under company leases located in 'industrial districts', I can safely say that there are many high profile tenants earning huge salaries working in B1 industrial areas.

unless the industrial zoning is B2, then most likely only the towkays can afford =)

Closely Connected To The Kallang Paya Lebar Expressway (KPE)

Yes you can have easy access to CTE via Bartley Flyover (maybe i should add that in the pros ) but the reason why i listed KPE is because of its versatility. Especially with the opening of the the 5-lane MCE, getting to the CBD or the Marina Bay area is very easy. I have travelled there in the morning peak so I have experienced the congestion there as well, but then again.. its the morning peak.. haha

Near To Upcoming HDB Development of Bidadari Estate

Now this is the one im not too sure about as well and i agree with you that the upcoming Bidadari Estate might pose so inconveniences to residents.

But i do believe that it will raise the vibrancy of the area with new parks and amenities being built, even if it is not necessarily a direct plus point for Bartley Ridge owners.

[staphy82]

Next 10% due

[玉格格]

Next 10% due

u received letter liao?
but foundation not done leh??

[staphy82]

u received letter liao?
but foundation not done leh??

Yeah, I received the request for payment through the law firm. There was an appended notice of certification of completion of foundation works.

[delly-10]

Yeah, I received the request for payment through the law firm. There was an appended notice of certification of completion of foundation works.

wow.. can like that meh

[玉格格]

Yeah, I received the request for payment through the law firm. There was an appended notice of certification of completion of foundation works.

but I juz went to bio last mth hardly anything was done?!
oni grass removed nia!

yrs is which block?

[staphy82]

but I juz went to bio last mth hardly anything was done?!
oni grass removed nia!

yrs is which block?

That's odd.

Blk 36.

[玉格格]

That's odd.

Blk 36.

oh, blk 36 mayb.
I cant see it cos too far fm the main road le.

[cran79]

That's considered good news...maybe? At least something is done?

[benj]

Hi Everyone,

I received a call from my lawyer for the next 10% due.
Not sure if there is any certification of proof that they piling is completed.

[玉格格]

Hi Everyone,

I received a call from my lawyer for the next 10% due.
Not sure if there is any certification of proof that they piling is completed.

yrs is at which block huh?

[benj]

yrs is at which block huh?

Block 36.
Same as Staphy82

[delly-10]

Block 36.
Same as Staphy82

i think it starts from the blocks furthest away from the show flat.

any one has the latest updated sales now?

[Tropical Fox]

Any one has the news of the land sale tender result for the land parcel opp BR?
If this one get a high land psf, BR will be moving fast for the left 15%.

[玉格格]

Any one has the news of the land sale tender result for the land parcel opp BR?
If this one get a high land psf, BR will be moving fast for the left 15%.

iirc closing date is 15/1.
y u so ganchong spider?
if serangoon view tat 2 plots near punggol park alrdy $5xx, tis 2 plots chao chao abv $650psf ppr.
u muz pray hard foreign developer come in n spoil the market

[Tropical Fox]

iirc closing date is 15/1.
y u so ganchong spider?
if serangoon view tat 2 plots near punggol park alrdy $5xx, tis 2 plots chao chao abv $650psf ppr.
u muz pray hard foreign developer come in n spoil the market

no leh, URA indicate 14/1 which is today mah~

ya that was a shock for me actually, location like Seng Kang can easily achieve higher ppr than BR(49x psf ppr?).... i hope the one opp BR get abv 700 psf ppr haha