As long as no AGM/ACM for this, no using (borrow, taking, stealing, etc) of this money!!! 'our, us, we' is indeed ambiguous!Originally Posted by eng81157
As long as no AGM/ACM for this, no using (borrow, taking, stealing, etc) of this money!!! 'our, us, we' is indeed ambiguous!Originally Posted by eng81157
Agreed... so it doesn't tally with govt..Originally Posted by eng81157
even in the AGMs, the xtron transactions are not disclosed (which is rightfully so since it is not affliated, in a strict sense, to CHC). CHC-xtron transactions are merely mentioned briefly, and voting members are not privy to details such as "bond purchases", "loan in/out", etc.Originally Posted by ysyap
even for the voting rights are rigged. long ago, CHC executive membership, which comes with voting rights, were issued to members based on the number of years served in church.
at one fateful AGM, one member voted against a motion and by the following week, all executive members had their membership revoked and the criteria changed - only cell group leaders, ministry heads and above (all who are groomed to be yes-men) were given voting rights
please reveal more!
Originally Posted by selespeed5135
I PRAY that Ms. Mavis Chionh is well prepared and does a good job for our country sake.
This is the worst kind of robbery and deceit.
just another juicy bit,Originally Posted by august
at one point in time, cell group leaders were given a monetary prize, as a form of 'encouragement', for achieving and/or topping growth targets - cell group organic size, tithing percentage, bible study percentage, etc
and i rebuked, my then, zone pastor for cheapening the work me and my fellow cell group leaders do
This is juicyOriginally Posted by eng81157
within the cell group, we celebrated one another's birthday and this normally comes with a cake and a birthday present (something that the person likes or uses)
after SKIN boutique was established, all birthday presents came in the form of SKIN boutique vouchers . and i remember my zone pastor attempting to exhort us cell group leaders to change our mindset - that a $200+ Ed Hardy T-shirt is considered affordable.
back then, i was already in the workforce and in my mind, i went . most of the leaders were still schooling and NO - a $200+ T-Shirt is not affordable.
If U spill anymore details, u can be a crown witness.Originally Posted by eng81157
so they are targeting the young and gullible?
they are targeting everyone, but brainwashing only the gullible successfully - "must trust the leader that God has placed over you" and the often quoted verse, Heb 13:17Originally Posted by august
that's how you end up with supporters who are blindly rooting for the 6 suspects
May I ask, are you (still) a believer of God ?
Originally Posted by eng81157
yup, why so? i'm not so foolish to give up my faith just because of some black sheeps.Originally Posted by shareidiot
when the news first broke (already left that place), i was in two minds about it - one, sad at the state of the place, where i gave the best years of my life, had turned into. two, delighted that finally justice has caught up.
So now where do u go?
Originally Posted by eng81157
and to all blind supporters (including some of my friends who are still there), i always tell them:
God gave you a brain - use it
eh, you tracking me down ah?? trinityOriginally Posted by shareidiot
No no, not at all (not tracking u down) ...
Anyway discussing about this topic is quite tricky......
Originally Posted by eng81157
I find this hillarious :Originally Posted by shareidiot
‘ Religion has actually convinced people that there is an invisible man ,
living in the sky, who watches everything you do every minute of every day of your life .
And he has a list of ten things he does not want you to do .
And if you do any of these ten things ,
he has a special place full of fire and smoke and ash and torture
where he will send you to suffer and burn and scream and cry
forever and ever until the end of time !
…… BUT HE LOVES YOU .
He loves you and needs MONEY ! ‘
GEORGE CARLIN
Thomas, why you quote my message in your response ah?
I don't understand ...
Originally Posted by shareidiot
May I ask, are you (still) a believer of God ?
Originally Posted by thomaspaine
Apologies...meant to share with you and all.Originally Posted by shareidiot
You are all missing the point
Search for Sun Ho's music videos in youtube (Look for China Wine, Mr. Bill). Now that is what i define as criminal!
树大必有枯枝,人多必有白痴。
树无皮必死无疑,人不要脸天下无敌!
Yes...I know what you mean. Some people will question why she is not part of the group being accused as she seems to be the main beneficiary of the monies.Originally Posted by leftfield
China Wine
http://youtu.be/Twxf2LraoEE
Fancy Free
http://youtu.be/uFh9Su_SiM4
Chinatown wine
http://youtu.be/OAIoaEMuTZ8
I suaku man. Never hear before ed hardy until today. The design very "colourful". Why ed hardy anyway?Originally Posted by eng81157
Thank you for sharing insights and inside stories... to give us a more holistic account of what happened....Originally Posted by eng81157
i know one of the youth pastor at the paya lebar branch... so you find that this church offers more sound doctrines? If so, congrats on finding a place you are comfortable to settle down.Originally Posted by eng81157
U had just killed the juice maker ...Originally Posted by indomie
Can search Hardwarezone EDMW for more sensational details. I recall reading them close to 10 years ago, then on n off. Strange tt action was only taken recently.
actually which part of those songs promote the religion??
like that also can huh??
why some still have so much faith in those 6? the way they spent money .....can easily form another charity fund to help the needy.
i think this time likely they will up lorry. garmen wont be so stupid to raise the alarm if they do not have concrete evidences.
Originally Posted by azeoprop