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[minority]

minority,
So from your below post, you confirmed that YOU HAD CONCLUDED that Amos Yee is "INSULTING CHRISTIANITY AND BREACHING LAW OF RELIGIOUS HARMONY"!!!!

Wow! And that is before the Judge in Court had even made a judgement!!!! Court's Judgement will only be out next week!!!!!!!!!

Isn't it clear now that minority (you) are prejudicing the court proceedings?!

And you are threatening us to go make a police report about you prejudicing the court proceedings about Amos Yee's court case?
Why you so daring?
Because you are a PAP member and hence a strong PAP flag bearer or because of what??????

So you believe that like PAP member Jason Neo (who make insulting comments against muslims), you would not be charged for anything for prejudicing court proceedings?????????????

IF SO PLS GO MAKE A POLICE REPORT YOU DUMB ASS... OH SORRY BLOODY LIAR....

YOU CAN SAY WHAT CRAP YOU WANT COZ ITS A FREE COUNTRY. THERE ARE FREEE SPEECH. SO WITH TAT LET ME COMPLEMENT YOU!!! YOU BLODDY HALF BREED SON OF THE DOG!!!

I AM NOT INSULTING YOU. COZ ACCORDING TO YOUR LOGIC ITS JUST A COMMENT A FAIR COMMENT ANIT IT DOG!!!!

FREEDOM TO INSULT MAH THATS WHAT YOU SAY FREE SPEECH IS MAH!!! I AM NOT INSULTING YOU.. I AM COMPLEMENTING YOU!!!!

[minority]

"offensive remark"?
"offensive" to who?
While some say he made "offensive remark", others say it is fair comment, or it is no big deal in almost all other genuine democratic countries ...................
So, in such case, if it is not a crime that is cast in stone, and it is not a crime in many other democratic countries, why make a mountain out of a molehill and in the process wasting tax-payers money, wasting the time of judges, police, and security personnel?????

A good litmus test for fair comparison will be: Is it a crime in most other developed democratic countries?

And Yes the NAZI Started out with the Blame the Jews message and it evolved into a holocaust. BULLSHIT CRAP LIKE YOU THAT SUPPORT PEOPLE THAT WANT TO STIR RELIGIOUS HATRED MUST BE STOP.

SO I CALL YOU BULLSHIT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!


AND I COMPLEMENT YOU SON OF A BITCH... COZ TO YOU THIS YOU SAY IS NOT OFFENSIVE MAH... FREEDOM TO INSULT RIGHT THATS WHAT YOU STAND FOR.

[minority]

HEY TEDDY SO NO SOUND FROM YOU LIAO??? HOW COME SO QUIET? NOW ALL THE OPPIES ABANDON the SIAO KIA LIAO?? CAN I ASK WHY IS VINCENT LAW SO UPSET? WANT APOLOGY?? ISNT IT FREE SPEECH? ISNT IT HE NOT INSULTED?? SO WHEN HE IS NOW AT THE RECEIVING END ITS NOW INSULTED AND FREE SPEECH IS OUT OF THE WINDOW? BASICALLY HE IS AS 2 FACE AS YOU ARE!!! VIN AND THE GANG THOUGHT THEY CAN USE THE BOY FOR POLITICAL PUBLICITY AND KANA BITE BACK.

LOL!!!!! WHY YOU SO QUIET? LOST YOUR SPEECH????

I CONTINUE TO CALL YOU BULLSHIT!!!!

[minority]

http://anyhowhantam.blogspot.sg/2015...r-for.html?m=1

RTC is now a Clear and Present Danger for Amos Yee
Looks like I wasn't very far off the mark with my warnings to Amos Yee in this previous post. I could see then that if he continued down the dangerous path he was taking, he was in serious danger of spending a lot of time at the Reformative Training Centre (RTC). And the events of the past 24 hours confirms it's now a clear and present danger:

http://www.straitstimes.com/news/sin...r-he-refuses-c


All fun and games. Go late to court, upload photos on Instagram. Don't bother with a haircut. Oh the Court wouldn't dare touch me! (Mediacorp photo)

1. Apples and Oranges Approach by Some.

Before I comment on the latest developments, I'd like to point out the serious flaw in the arguments made by those who leapt to his defense then. (I don't know if they still do now, given his antics since). Their arguments stem from the fact it was Lee Kuan Yew (LKY) insulted in the video, and further to this, this whole exercise is an attempt by the PAP to do him in and muzzle free speech. Of course when a political figure, especially LKY, is insulted, you can bet this will not go down well with the PAP members, especially since his son, Lee Hsien Loong is Prime Minister. Making a link that this is political is not difficult - some may even say, it's obvious.

Be that as it may, this does not detract from the fact that Amos broke the law in relation to insulting religion and uploading an obscene caricature. And it does not make the 32 police reports made against him go away. Put it this way, if Amos made no mention of LKY in the video, but just contained the insults to Christianity, what would the response be? Or if he insulted any other religion - be it Hinduism, Buddhism or Islam? Get my drift? Whether this is acceptable in the West or elsewhere, is also besides the point. As far as the law stands here, we do not insult religions. I dare say the majority of Singaporeans will agree to this position, that all faiths must be respected.

And that's the 'apples and oranges comparison' made by activists or those who are anti-PAP. Instead of stepping in to reproach the boy, get his parents to see the dangers, they instead seized on the opportunity to use this for their own activism. Rather than look at the case as one where a law has been broken, how best to remedy the situation and mitigate, they foolishly thought by 'blowing it up,' they could get the Govt to back down.


Anymore candlelight vigils, letters to the UN, Pope, banana munching led by star pupil Roy Ngerng? A lot of good that did and how did he respond? He basically asked all of you to go fly a kite.

All the banana chomping, vigils, writing to world bodies etc, what exactly did it achieve? Instead of helping Amos, it just made it worse. It egged him on and his behaviour since then has only proven the prosecution's case more and more. Because the prosecution will say if asked, that this was never political. There was no call from the PM to charge him, no order from higher ups to do so. Rather they took this as they would in any other case - police reports lodged, complaints investigated, laws determined to have been breached and as such prosecution must follow.

The Law itself is not on trial here, Amos is. Arguing about the unfairness of the Law is irrelevant to the present case. It's on the statute book. It's the Law of the land. Don't like it, get Parliament to change or remove it. But if you live here, you follow the Law. There are probably 100 laws I would like to see changed, especially strict liability laws. But it doesn't mean, we can start choosing which laws we don't like and don't want to follow. In Russia, homosexuality is a crime, in Thailand insulting the Monarch is a crime, consuming alcohol in public is an offence in some Muslim countries, women can't drive in Saudi Arabia and must be veiled. Does it mean if we go to these countries, we can disregard these laws, because in the West it's not an offence?

Political or no, unfair law or no - at the end of the day, can anyone stand up and accuse the prosecution of acting incorrectly? And can anyone object to the simple argument that the prosecution is merely enforcing the Law? That is the only issue that matters and 1 that some just refuse to accept or see.

Instead of tackling the charges, how best to get them dropped or obtain the lowest possible sentence, they went to focus on the political side of things and attacking the Law. Of course this could be done, but not now, the urgency is to combat the charges. Let the case be over, then by all means campaign against the Law in question. And Amos through his actions, has shown the flaws in your activism. It's about discipline, it's about obeying the Law and showing respect to others. Whether LKY is an ass-hole or saint doesn't matter. That's a different topic altogether.

2. Reformative Training is now 90% certain.

When this whole thing blew up, the possibility of Reformative Training (RT) was probably only 5%. Some may have accused me of being alarmist or unrealistic. But observing his conduct, the conduct of his parents and so-called 'supporters', I could sense the possibility although remote then. It could not be so easily dismissed as I observed in a subsequent post. Ordinarily this would almost always end in probation if he observed the following:

a) Supervision at home
b) An ability to follow parent's advice and instructions
c) Avoid mixing with person's of doubtful character.
d) Interacts with similar minded disciplined kids his age, and not adults with no relation to him.
e) Is either studying or finds a proper job.
f) Will comply with terms of probation
g) Will not be a spoilt brat who must always have his way.

(a) (b) (e) and (f) being the most important. Probation is not a 'picnic' but it's clearly a 'walk in the park' compared to RT. Probation is monitored by officers from the MSF by men and usually women, who have a lot of experience dealing with troubled youths. They would be different from Vincent Law, his former bailor, no proselytising - all professional and secular. Their responsibility primarily is to the Court, to ensure compliance to an accepted, tried and tested formula of supervision. These are professionals who are good at their job, counselling and other support measure will obviously follow but first, the probationer must adhere to some basic rules. But these people are not inflexible. I've known some youths who underwent probation - they were extremely grateful they got that and not RT.

You want to go out with your girlfriend - no problem, just inform. You want to stay out late occasionally, even say to midnight (these usually has to be family events, where 1 parent or a responsible adult is there), sure, just inform and get permission. You have part-time job or class to attend and want to postpone counselling or a session, sure, let us know. Basically you can do or request anything reasonable, provided you display responsible behaviour and ask permission and remain contactable. And the best part is that you have freedom of movement, freedom to be in your home, your own bed, your toilet and be with you own friends.

But Amos in his misguided sense of right and wrong, or as I would put it - an open display of defiance - did not even want to take the 1st step - and meet the probation officer. He did not even want to hear the terms and access the suitability of it. And so the probation officer has no choice but apprise the court of this.

The other thing is why not just impose a jail term or fine? Insulting religion usually carries a fine or minimal jail term. But that's for adults. Why not for him? Because this becomes a criminal record and the courts here have always adopted policy of not imposing jail terms for 1st time youthful offenders, especially for non-violent crimes. Probation and RT are not criminal records and can be expunged. A criminal record can be a big stain in future. He wants to go to the US, Canada, Australia and many Western countries, well you must declare your criminal record. You want to apply for a job, you must declare your criminal record. The courts position for youthful offenders is not primarily punishment but rehabilitation. What about his 18 day stay in remand? Well, remand is not a jail sentence. Plus it wasn't continuous, he was bailed out and could have remained bailed out, but he refused to comply with the terms, so whose fault is it?


He calls the press 'irritating cunts' but who's there waving to them? Who was it yesterday, repeatedly turning to face the photographers?

Given his behaviour since arrest and conviction, he's now out on bail again, instead of showing he understands the severity of the matter, he's again thumbed his nose at the Law. Even yesterday, before attending court he posted on Facebook - 'why bother to go to court early because the judge is always late?' That's his attitude. And from a mere 5% 2 months ago, RTC is now 90% certain. As the DPP said, he's a misguided youth who's likely to continue to defy the Law. RTC offers the following which I mentioned:

1) Will be under supervision 24/7
2) Will have to undergo psychiatric treatment, if so directed
3) Will be subject to discipline 24/7
4) Can attend classes within RTC including doing his A levels.

3. His Parents especially His Mother is to Blame.

No doubt his parents are not on trial. The bulk of the fault is his but they must be chided for allowing things to deteriorate to such levels. Of course no 1 can say for sure what the family dynamics are. He speaks of an abusive father and a loveless marriage. But given his propensity to lie, can we take him at his word? Perhaps he's the cause for his parent's rift? Perhaps he plays his father against his mother? Unlike others, I don't want to condemn his father for 'whacking him.' Here's a 16 year old kid, calling you a 'bastard, a dumb-****' and openly defies you time and again, which father wouldn't snap? And who do you want to punish the kid, the father or the Law? I know an incident involving a then senior police officer who did murder investigations. His son was reckless in his behaviour and even started taking drugs. So afraid that his son would be arrested and jailed, he took the drastic measure of handcuffing his son at home, whenever he had to go for work or out. Draconian, brutal and surely wrong you may say, but what's the alternative? A father's love extends to protecting his son from a greater awaiting danger.


His grandmother told "Today" that he was addicted to the Internet. Why did his mother continue to allow him to do so? Do you reward bad behaviour with more freedoms? (Today photo)


But even if we disregard Mr Yee, we cannot let his mother Mary Toh off so lightly. He lives with her and her mother in their Shunfu flat. He wanted to quit school for some 'fantastic idea' that school was a 'waste' and that he wanted to be a 'movie producer.' And she let him. Ok maybe we say, he needs a break, ok let him have a break. He even gave up giving tuition and now expects his mother to finance him and she again lets him. He wanted to upload the video, she disagreed but did not stop him. He spends an inordinate amount of time on the Net (his grandmother confirmed) and she let him. He deliberately disobeyed his bail conditions, she let him. He made a disgusting allegation of molest against Vincent Law, and she didn't rebuke him, instead according to him, found for him a secondary meaning of 'molest' to justify his outrageous behaviour. She didn't raise a single cent to bail him but readily accepted strangers to bail her son. She allowed him to mix with people like Roy and get politically involved when he knew next to nothing about politics. She allowed him to crowdfund for monies he didn't need because the lawyers were acting pro-bono. And when he boasted of how he wants to splurge with the monies, she didn't stop him and tell him it was wrong. He claims to have raised $20,000 (I don't think it's that much, but thousands there was, no doubt). She allows a 16 year old to handle this huge sum and to continue to demand more.


Mary Toh's parenting beggars belief. Instead of imposing discipline and guidance, she engages in appeasement. She deserves to be slammed for the manner she allowed things to turn south in a space of 6 months since January 1st.

He openly disregards directions from a judge and refuses to meet a court appointed probation officer, and she allows him. Worse, she herself refuses to meet with the officer. He issues threats online against his cousins and other persons. Spews vulgarity, shows no gratitude, he even made a video where he boasts of watching porn and masturbating twice daily and wants to have sex. All these she doesn't step in. Instead he says, he's taught her how to use FB and she's correcting his grammar and English in some of these disgusting posts and administers his page for him. If true, it just shows how reckless and irresponsible she is. Not only does her son need psychiatric help (she claims he has Asperger's), I honestly think she needs it too. She needs to attend some 'parenting 101' classes. I know parents who are less educated or qualified as her (she's a Maths teacher), who can better monitor, guide and teach their sons and daughters values.

What would you or any normal person do when you have a teenager who refuses to follow basic instructions, who openly defies you, is rude to elders (he called a woman who delivered cookies and chocolates on his doorstep a 'bitch'), shows no gratitude, makes false allegations, tells lies and insults religion? Would you simply ignore him and let him have his way? Of course not, common sense and maturity will tell you, you need to impose discipline. You don't even need to use violence. He doesn't want to go to school, fine, you cut his pocket money. No money whatsoever, you provide food and basic clothes, that's it. He wants to go out and have leisure with friends, you severely curtail that. He's obsessed with the Net, you stop internet subscription, you cancel cable TV, or even remove all computers. His hand-phone you downgrade to a basic 1. You give him tasks to complete, he cleans the house, cleans his room, helps his grandmother. He's still stubborn, you tell him, he's gonna have to stay with the 1 person he detests - his father. You seize his bank account, all monies people donated, you either return or inform unknown donors, you'll donate it to charity. You do not allow him to procure monies online from strangers - you do not give an irresponsible kid thousands of dollars and allow him to buy stuff.

You're not sure what to do, you consult or get another adult relative to be discipline master. You're not showing love by spoiling your child. This has nothing to do with freedom of speech or liberties. This is about parenting and disciplining a wayward kid.

4. Can he now avoid RT?

Does his mother think all this is a game? Maybe he thinks so. In his warped thinking, as long as he captivated the public with his antics - he has fans and will get money. Does she think the judge or DPP is playing a game of poker with her son? That by calling their bluff, or by letting this become a widely reported case, charges will be dropped and he'll get a lenient sentence or the judge will sympathise with him and her? At every stage, he's openly defied the court. Courts don't issue rulings for fun. Prison officials don't ignore directions from the court, neither do probation officers.

Probation was a chance to wipe the slate clean, hunker down, get back to the basics - do something meaningful - study, take up sports, do charitable works etc. There is of course a chance he might not be sent for RT. But is it too late now? His lawyers must come up with a very strong argument that he'll comply with directions and instructions and obey the Law. But I doubt the DPP will be willing to budge. It's almost certain come June 2, he'll have to go back inside for 4 weeks to assess his suitability for RT. (These 4 weeks don't count against any eventual RT sentence). Then it's up to the prison officials to prepare the report and make recommendations for or against RT. I've seen cases where the report is negative - the youth is not recommended for RT, because something less stringent is an available option - that almost always means probation. But given his utter lack of supervision, his open defiance not only to his parents, but the court and his insistence on doing whatever he wants, can any reasonable person come out with an assurance that probation is the better alternative?


It'll be a minor miracle, if lawyer Alfred Dodwell can convince DJ Jasvender Kaur not to call for an RTC report and not to impose 1, if it's so recommended.


Jasvender Kaur, I feel is probably 1 of the top 3 judges in the lower courts. I'm surprised she's not a High Court judge by now. Her decisions are meticulous and she's always known to be a fair judge, not someone who's extremely harsh or inflexible. Very seldom are her findings overruled by an appellate court. Her overriding factor would be rehabilitation and a chance for the boy to be responsible and get back on track in life. But even she cannot simply ignore, his repeated refusals to comply with her instructions. She cannot simply disregard the probation officer's report on his refusal to even take the 1st step in meeting her. She cannot ignore the inability or reluctance by his mother to impose some discipline on him. He's already been sniping at Christianity again, and has made veiled references against Buddhism. To let him off the hook now, how certain will it be that he'll suddenly change overnight and start complying, when even after conviction, he's been thumbing his nose at the Law? Unless the defense lawyers can come out with strong arguments, she has to seriously consider the DPP's requests on sentencing.

Conclusion.

Some people have said, 'oh he's so talented, he writes well' - a few even said he'll make a good politician - prime minister no less! They gotta be joking. I can point to hundreds if not thousands of students in top schools like RI, RGS, ACS, Hwa Chong, even ones like St Andrew's, St Joseph's or maybe even top students from neighbourhood schools, who can write better. Who can speak just as well if not better, who are able to argue their cases logically and with maturity.

What these people fail to see is a kid who latched on to the hottest topic of the day, to gain fame or notoriety. The issue is not about LKY, wanna call him, dog, cat or whatever - that's a civil matter. But insult religion, Singaporeans don't want to see or hear that. It could have easily have been the death of the pope or Dalai Lama, he would probably use that to gain the fame he craves. To garner 'fans.'


This is how he uses the Net - another snipe at Jesus and Christianity. Another example of 'teaching people not to '**** with Amos Yee.'


For too long he's been allowed to get away with whatever he wants, without consideration for the feelings or actions it has on others. He hides behind the computer, thinking it gives him the power to get his 'revenge.' Just read his posts against his cousins or other persons, who he thinks 'molested him.' His childish response - 'I'm gonna shame you online - you don't **** with Amos Yee.' Well nobody really cares if you think you're getting your revenge - you're not - you're making a fool of yourself. A lot of people can see through your lies. A lot of people can see how spoilt you've become. And society and the Law has little time for such antics. No Western country is gonna take you based on your conduct. You can't even get a passport, with NS looming. No schooling means no chance of going abroad either to study or get a long term visa.


'Sleepers' is a movie kids and their parents should watch - where 1 mistake and a combination of events can conspire to ruin your life.

There's this show he and his mother should watch - it's called 'Sleepers' starring Brad Pitt, Robert de Niro and Dustin Hoffman. It's about some kids who made the 1 mistake by playing a prank and ended up in a juvenile boys home. (Of course the show indicates the boys were sodomised by the guards, this is not gonna happen here). But the similarities are there - on January 1st this year - you started the year like any normal 16 year old finishing your O levels. But instead of acting rationally and doing what most kids do, you decided to continue living in your virtual world and do whatever you like - ignoring all the red flags. You've only got yourself to blame. RTC can make or break you, it's really up to you, but a game it is not. It's gonna be extremely hard, much tougher than NS. The tolerance for misbehaviour and disregarding rules is very low, maybe even zero. You either reflect and choose to study, or you face the daily grind of drills and discipline, and living with boys older and bigger than you, who won't let you do things to 'sabotage them' like disobeying orders. They won't take too kindly with a nerd trying to 'act smart.' Neither will the prison officials. And Mary Toh, well in trying show 'your love for your son' by just simply giving in each and every time, well now you're not gonna have him around for 2 whole years, maybe more.

At the end of the day, if you go back to January 1st and reflect on all that has transpired, you gotta ask yourself 1 question if RT is imposed - was it worth it?

[teddybear]

Amos Yee's case has come to an end, but it inevitably has left a big question mark over many people, including me...........

Now, Amos Yee became infamous because he made a video titled "Lee Kuan Yew is finally dead" (or something like that, pardon me if I can't remember clearly) and in the whole video he rant about how Lee Kuan is a horrible man blah blah blah.
However, instead, arising out of this video, the AG only charge him with hurting religious feelings of Christians as a result of this video and for posting obscene image (not related to this video).

So the big question mark is, since Amos has not been charged with anything regarding his bad comments about Lee Kuan Yew, is the AG telling us that he agreed with Amos Yee and Amos Yee is right that "Lee Kuan Yew is a horrible man" and hence he is unable to charge Amos on this issue?????

2nd question, obscene image how to define?
I had seen rape scenes in mediacorp TV series, which to me is really obscene, strongly objectionable, and truly inappropriate to young children but yet these are broadcasted during the prime time of 7-9pm when young kids may be watching and can corrupt their young minds. Why are mediacorp able to broadcast such obscene videos (much worst than a single image) and yet not being charged for broadcasting obscenity? Mind you, TV broadcast reaches more young children than internet! (Very young kids either don't know how to switch on computer, get pass the login password, start up web-browser and find the obscene image using search engine etc but they can easily turn on TV and viola, obscenity video from mediacorp!). Food for thought?

[minority]

Amos Yee's case has come to an end, but it inevitably has left a big question mark over many people, including me...........

Now, Amos Yee became infamous because he made a video titled "Lee Kuan Yew is finally dead" (or something like that, pardon me if I can't remember clearly) and in the whole video he rant about how Lee Kuan is a horrible man blah blah blah.
However, instead, arising out of this video, the AG only charge him with hurting religious feelings of Christians as a result of this video and for posting obscene image (not related to this video).

So the big question mark is, since Amos has not been charged with anything regarding his bad comments about Lee Kuan Yew, is the AG telling us that he agreed with Amos Yee and Amos Yee is right that "Lee Kuan Yew is a horrible man" and hence he is unable to charge Amos on this issue?????

2nd question, obscene image how to define?
I had seen rape scenes in mediacorp TV series, which to me is really obscene, strongly objectionable, and truly inappropriate to young children but yet these are broadcasted during the prime time of 7-9pm when young kids may be watching and can corrupt their young minds. Why are mediacorp able to broadcast such obscene videos (much worst than a single image) and yet not being charged for broadcasting obscenity? Mind you, TV broadcast reaches more young children than internet! (Very young kids either don't know how to switch on computer, get pass the login password, start up web-browser and find the obscene image using search engine etc but they can easily turn on TV and viola, obscenity video from mediacorp!). Food for thought?

Talk cock an as usual twist facts. Amos was not charged with insulting LKY because there was nothing illegal of hurling insults and the insulted party did not file any civil suit. So that under the law has nothing to charge about.

Where as sedation and posting obscenity are are clearly stated in the laws. So don't twist facts as usual.

If you feel medicare are broadcasting obscene videos pls capture them and file a police report. don't talk cock and try to twist facts.

And why are you not addressing the fact AMOS BITES the the Oppies who are trying to use him ? home come no reply ? Coz you know that crazy kid have a problem and oppies are all trying to bank on him and it back fired on them!!!

So don't TALK COCK TEDDY.

[minority]

In Case u want to bullshit and twist facts. here is what is stipulated in the law as obscene. dont twist facts

http://statutes.agc.gov.sg/aol/searc...;rec=0#pr3-he-.

For the purposes of this Act, a publication is obscene if its effect or (where the publication comprises 2 or more distinct parts or items) the effect of any one of its parts or items is, if taken as a whole, such as to tend to deprave and corrupt persons who are likely, having regard to all relevant circumstances, to read, see or hear the matter contained or embodied in it.
[2A
[9/98]
Meaning of objectionable
4.—(1) For the purposes of this Act, a publication is objectionable if, in the opinion of any controller, it or (where the publication comprises 2 or more distinct parts or items) any one of its parts or items describes, depicts, expresses or otherwise deals with —
(a)
matters such as sex, horror, crime, cruelty, violence or the consumption of drugs or other intoxicating substances in such a manner that the availability of the publication is likely to be injurious to the public good; or
(b)
matters of race or religion in such a manner that the availability of the publication is likely to cause feelings of enmity, hatred, ill-will or hostility between different racial or religious groups.
[2B
[9/98]
(2) In determining for the purposes of this Act whether or not any publication is objectionable, the following matters shall be considered:
(a)
the extent and degree to which, and the manner in which, the publication —
(i)
describes, depicts or otherwise deals with acts of torture, the infliction of serious physical harm, sexual conduct or violence or coercion in association with sexual conduct;
(ii)
exploits the nudity of persons or children or both;
(iii)
promotes or encourages criminal acts or acts of terrorism;
(iv)
represents, directly or indirectly, that members of any particular community or group are inherently inferior to other members of the public or of any other community or group;
(b)
the impact of the medium in which the publication is presented;
(c)
the character of the publication, including any merit, value or importance that the publication has in relation to literary, artistic, social, cultural, educational, scientific or other matters;
(d)
the standards of morality, decency and propriety that are generally accepted by reasonable members of the community; and
(e)
the persons, classes of persons or age groups of the persons to whom the publication is intended or is likely to be made available.
[9/98]
(3) The question whether or not a publication is objectionable is a matter for the expert judgment of any person authorised or required by or pursuant to this Act to determine it, and evidence as to or proof of any of the matters or particulars that the person is required to consider in determining that question is not essential to its determination except that if such evidence or proof of such matters or particulars is available, that person shall take that evidence or proof into consideration.
[9/98]
(4) The Chief Controller shall keep and maintain a Register of Objectionable Publications containing all publications which any controller determines to be objectionable.
[9/98]

[minority]

http://singaporelegaladvice.com/what...-in-singapore/

What is the law on pornography in Singapore?

May 5, 2011 in Internet Law by admin

Pornographic material includes any forms of media, such as books, films and digital files, showing obscene or sexual behaviour.

It is against the law to keep, distribute or sell pornographic materials, under the Undesirable Publications Act, as well as section 292 of the Penal Code. It is also against the law to keep, distribute or sell pornographic films under sections 29 and 30 of the Films Act.

However, if you accidentally stumble upon a pornographic website, it is not illegal to view the pornographic content contained within, as long as you do not download any such obscene files and store them within your computer.

[teddybear]

Nothing illegal hurling insults? Mmm..., didn't the AG originally wanted to charge Amos for for a 3rd charge on this? According to the newspaper:
"The third charge comes under the Protection of Harassment Act. It accuses him of making an online video containing remarks about Mr Lee that offended people who viewed it."

So, if you hurl insults on somebody and other people get offended, it is a chargeable offence by AG right? However, the AG back down thereafter. What is the real reason? If what you said is true, are you telling us that the AG is just doing false threatening to Amos only with the 3rd charge but can't proceed? Given that I believe AG won't resort to threatening with false charges, hence the only conclusion is that you lied and give talk-cock nonsense reply!

Mediacorp didn't broadcast "obscene" videos? Those rape scenes, being videos (composed of many thousands of moving pictures in action) which are more obscene and objectionable and more corrupt to the mind of young children than the single cartoon picture posted by Amos! Also, TV broadcast videos are so much more easily accessible to children of young age (compared to Internet since young children will not have access or know how to access the obscene picture). So nobody care? Mmm..., food for thought!
You want evidence of mediacorp obscene videos? You can see the webpage here for evidence of snapshots captured by others:
http://thehearttruths.com/2015/05/11...s-own-members/

And you still haven't reply us why Jason Neo has not been taken to task for making a specific sedition comment against a particular race, and whose action is worse than Amos Yee, since Amos' video is specifically about Lee Kuan Yew (but instead he was charged for passing a comment on Christianity which few believe that is his main intention), while Jason Neo's comments on a picture is aimed specifically at the bus of students from a particular race?

Come to think of it, if what you said is true, that is "Amos was not charged with insulting LKY because there was nothing illegal of hurling insults and the insulted party did not file any civil suit. So that under the law has nothing to charge about.", then under the law Amos can't be charged for insulting LKY, and there is no way to bring him to task. So how? What can be done about it? May be try to pick bone in the egg? Unfortunately doing so will create contradictions to other facts and make the whole case unconvincing. Mmm..., food for thoughts again.............

Talk cock an as usual twist facts. Amos was not charged with insulting LKY because there was nothing illegal of hurling insults and the insulted party did not file any civil suit. So that under the law has nothing to charge about.

Where as sedation and posting obscenity are are clearly stated in the laws. So don't twist facts as usual.

If you feel medicare are broadcasting obscene videos pls capture them and file a police report. don't talk cock and try to twist facts.

And why are you not addressing the fact AMOS BITES the the Oppies who are trying to use him ? home come no reply ? Coz you know that crazy kid have a problem and oppies are all trying to bank on him and it back fired on them!!!

So don't TALK COCK TEDDY.

[teddybear]

Too cheem, layman like me (and most other Singaporeans) can't and won't understand all those legal clauses.......

Unfortunately I can't tell how Amos Yee's posted picture is obscene since it is just a cartoon picture (no flesh, no colour, no private parts can be seen), and with just a real male and female head, that is all......................
To me and many people I talked to, they and I are of the view that Amos Yee's posted picture is more cartoonish and hilarious than obscene............

May be you can help to explain why the picture posted by Amos Yee is considered obscene?

Does the picture posted by Amos Yee contain real people with naked flesh?
Does it contain picture of people where private parts can be seen?
Does it contain actions of hands on private parts? (hence videos that are objectionable are always more obscene than a single picture!)
(My understanding is that above are usually the main tests in other countries to categorise whether a picture or video is obscene or not....)
What else is in the picture that indicates that the picture is obscene?
How does it compares to those real human rape scenes (composed of thousands of real people moving pictures in action and not just 1 cartoon picture) in compromising positions and actions?
Any more you can add to help to explain why Amos Yee's posted picture is obscene?

http://singaporelegaladvice.com/what...-in-singapore/

What is the law on pornography in Singapore?

May 5, 2011 in Internet Law by admin

Pornographic material includes any forms of media, such as books, films and digital files, showing obscene or sexual behaviour.

It is against the law to keep, distribute or sell pornographic materials, under the Undesirable Publications Act, as well as section 292 of the Penal Code. It is also against the law to keep, distribute or sell pornographic films under sections 29 and 30 of the Films Act.

However, if you accidentally stumble upon a pornographic website, it is not illegal to view the pornographic content contained within, as long as you do not download any such obscene files and store them within your computer.

[minority]

Nothing illegal hurling insults? Mmm..., didn't the AG originally wanted to charge Amos for for a 3rd charge on this? According to the newspaper:
"The third charge comes under the Protection of Harassment Act. It accuses him of making an online video containing remarks about Mr Lee that offended people who viewed it."

So, if you hurl insults on somebody and other people get offended, it is a chargeable offence by AG right? However, the AG back down thereafter. What is the real reason? If what you said is true, are you telling us that the AG is just doing false threatening to Amos only with the 3rd charge but can't proceed? Given that I believe AG won't resort to threatening with false charges, hence the only conclusion is that you lied and give talk-cock nonsense reply!

Mediacorp didn't broadcast "obscene" videos? Those rape scenes, being videos (composed of many thousands of moving pictures in action) which are more obscene and objectionable and more corrupt to the mind of young children than the single cartoon picture posted by Amos! Also, TV broadcast videos are so much more easily accessible to children of young age (compared to Internet since young children will not have access or know how to access the obscene picture). So nobody care? Mmm..., food for thought!
You want evidence of mediacorp obscene videos? You can see the webpage here for evidence of snapshots captured by others:
http://thehearttruths.com/2015/05/11...s-own-members/

And you still haven't reply us why Jason Neo has not been taken to task for making a specific sedition comment against a particular race, and whose action is worse than Amos Yee, since Amos' video is specifically about Lee Kuan Yew (but instead he was charged for passing a comment on Christianity which few believe that is his main intention), while Jason Neo's comments on a picture is aimed specifically at the bus of students from a particular race?

Come to think of it, if what you said is true, that is "Amos was not charged with insulting LKY because there was nothing illegal of hurling insults and the insulted party did not file any civil suit. So that under the law has nothing to charge about.", then under the law Amos can't be charged for insulting LKY, and there is no way to bring him to task. So how? What can be done about it? May be try to pick bone in the egg? Unfortunately doing so will create contradictions to other facts and make the whole case unconvincing. Mmm..., food for thoughts again.............

Talk cock. was there a charged on the 3rd Charge? NO. There was not. so what bullshit you want to spin?

[minority]

in case you donno what is in the harassment act you can go READ IT! GONG!

http://statutes.agc.gov.sg/aol/searc...;rec=0#pr3-he-.

[teddybear]

Come on, let's face it, there was a 3rd charge against Amos Yee initially being put forward by the AG isn't it? Are you denying that, you liar?!

And the strange thing is, the 3rd charge has been dropped! Don't you find it strange?

Come on, Amos Yee's whole video he posted is about his opinion about LKY, and Amos Yee's main intention of producing that video is tell everybody that he believed "LKY is a horrible man"! The 3rd charge simply addresses to refute the main intention of Amos Yee's video!

Actually, I strongly believe that Amos Yee should be charged on this 3rd charge because that will focus on the whole main issue: to refute Amos Yee's purposeful intention to smear LKY and propogate the impression that LKY is really a horrible man!
However, instead, the AG retracted his 3rd charge! Why? Is it because he agree with Amos Yee's video message that "LKY is a horrible man"? Or did he do some fact finding and concluded that to press on this charge he will not win because Amos Yee may be able to come out with some facts to convince everyone that "LKY is a horrible man"? Or what is the real reason to drop the 3rd charge???????? I really doubt what you said is true, given that you have been proven to be liar all along...............

Instead, the AG end up pressing charges on wounding others' religious feeling (which is just a passing remark by Amos Yee in the video and is not the real intention of Amos Yee's whole video). In fact, we already saw worst remarks from others like Jason Neo, who is a PAP grassroot leader. Surprising until now, the AG has not taken any action against him, despite police report being filed against him, strange isn't it? On the internet, I had read that the person who filed the police report even mentioned that he had been intimidated by the police when he questioned why there is no action by police against Jason Neo! Is this true? If not true, why no clarification to refute such false allegation? If true, why no explanation to clarify why no action, and why intimidate the person who file the police report against Jason Neo?

Also, the AG presses charges against Amos Yee about distributing obscene image, but until now, we still don't know what is their real definition of "obscene"! Could they clearly explain in what way is the distributed image by Amos "obscene"? Can't be just some subjectively perceived "obscene" which they can't describe in words right?
Otherwise talking about "perceived obscene", isn't those rape scenes broadcast by Mediacorp even more obscene than Amos Yee's distributed cartoon image since they are composed of thousands of images in consecutive actions (as opposed of 1 image by Amos), can be easily viewed by young children and hence have broader reach and greater influence to corrupt the young minds?!

However, it seems that from your remarks, you are saying that the AG is unable to charge Amos on the 3rd charge, which means that you are saying that the AG is just threatening Amos Yee with a false 3rd charge?
And hence the AG has to persist to make the first 2 charges stick to bring Amos Yee to task and teach him a good lesson?

These are the real questions many people have and it will be better if they address these questions since doubts remaining will linger for long long time to come..................

Talk cock. was there a charged on the 3rd Charge? NO. There was not. so what bullshit you want to spin?

Nothing illegal hurling insults? Mmm..., didn't the AG originally wanted to charge Amos for for a 3rd charge on this? According to the newspaper:
"The third charge comes under the Protection of Harassment Act. It accuses him of making an online video containing remarks about Mr Lee that offended people who viewed it."

So, if you hurl insults on somebody and other people get offended, it is a chargeable offence by AG right? However, the AG back down thereafter. What is the real reason? If what you said is true, are you telling us that the AG is just doing false threatening to Amos only with the 3rd charge but can't proceed? Given that I believe AG won't resort to threatening with false charges, hence the only conclusion is that you lied and give talk-cock nonsense reply!

Mediacorp didn't broadcast "obscene" videos? Those rape scenes, being videos (composed of many thousands of moving pictures in action) which are more obscene and objectionable and more corrupt to the mind of young children than the single cartoon picture posted by Amos! Also, TV broadcast videos are so much more easily accessible to children of young age (compared to Internet since young children will not have access or know how to access the obscene picture). So nobody care? Mmm..., food for thought!
You want evidence of mediacorp obscene videos? You can see the webpage here for evidence of snapshots captured by others:
http://thehearttruths.com/2015/05/11...s-own-members/

And you still haven't reply us why Jason Neo has not been taken to task for making a specific sedition comment against a particular race, and whose action is worse than Amos Yee, since Amos' video is specifically about Lee Kuan Yew (but instead he was charged for passing a comment on Christianity which few believe that is his main intention), while Jason Neo's comments on a picture is aimed specifically at the bus of students from a particular race?

Come to think of it, if what you said is true, that is "Amos was not charged with insulting LKY because there was nothing illegal of hurling insults and the insulted party did not file any civil suit. So that under the law has nothing to charge about.", then under the law Amos can't be charged for insulting LKY, and there is no way to bring him to task. So how? What can be done about it? May be try to pick bone in the egg? Unfortunately doing so will create contradictions to other facts and make the whole case unconvincing. Mmm..., food for thoughts again.............

[teddybear]

minority,
still waiting for you reply to explain why the picture posted by Amos Yee is considered "obscene"?
Many people like me can only understand when there are clear layman-term explanations, like what I queried below..................

You also can't explain right?????

Too cheem, layman like me (and most other Singaporeans) can't and won't understand all those legal clauses.......

Unfortunately I can't tell how Amos Yee's posted picture is obscene since it is just a cartoon picture (no flesh, no colour, no private parts can be seen), and with just a real male and female head, that is all......................
To me and many people I talked to, they and I are of the view that Amos Yee's posted picture is more cartoonish and hilarious than obscene............

May be you can help to explain why the picture posted by Amos Yee is considered obscene?

Does the picture posted by Amos Yee contain real people with naked flesh?
Does it contain picture of people where private parts can be seen?
Does it contain actions of hands on private parts? (hence videos that are objectionable are always more obscene than a single picture!)
(My understanding is that above are usually the main tests in other countries to categorise whether a picture or video is obscene or not....)
What else is in the picture that indicates that the picture is obscene?
How does it compares to those real human rape scenes (composed of thousands of real people moving pictures in action and not just 1 cartoon picture) in compromising positions and actions?
Any more you can add to help to explain why Amos Yee's posted picture is obscene?

[minority]

minority,
still waiting for you reply to explain why the picture posted by Amos Yee is considered "obscene"?
Many people like me can only understand when there are clear layman-term explanations, like what I queried below..................

You also can't explain right?????

Why are u asking me ? U dumb ass u should be asking those people who made police report that they are offended. Perhaps is due to ur low moral standard that u don't find it obscene. Perhaps replace the picture with ur dad's face giving u one up in ur ass doggy style is something u find pleasent . I am sure many don't appericate the sight of u getting rode brokeback style by your dad. Ur fantasy should best be kept to urself.

[minority]

Come on, let's face it, there was a 3rd charge against Amos Yee initially being put forward by the AG isn't it? Are you denying that, you liar?!

And the strange thing is, the 3rd charge has been dropped! Don't you find it strange?

Come on, Amos Yee's whole video he posted is about his opinion about LKY, and Amos Yee's main intention of producing that video is tell everybody that he believed "LKY is a horrible man"! The 3rd charge simply addresses to refute the main intention of Amos Yee's video!

Actually, I strongly believe that Amos Yee should be charged on this 3rd charge because that will focus on the whole main issue: to refute Amos Yee's purposeful intention to smear LKY and propogate the impression that LKY is really a horrible man!
However, instead, the AG retracted his 3rd charge! Why? Is it because he agree with Amos Yee's video message that "LKY is a horrible man"? Or did he do some fact finding and concluded that to press on this charge he will not win because Amos Yee may be able to come out with some facts to convince everyone that "LKY is a horrible man"? Or what is the real reason to drop the 3rd charge???????? I really doubt what you said is true, given that you have been proven to be liar all along...............

Instead, the AG end up pressing charges on wounding others' religious feeling (which is just a passing remark by Amos Yee in the video and is not the real intention of Amos Yee's whole video). In fact, we already saw worst remarks from others like Jason Neo, who is a PAP grassroot leader. Surprising until now, the AG has not taken any action against him, despite police report being filed against him, strange isn't it? On the internet, I had read that the person who filed the police report even mentioned that he had been intimidated by the police when he questioned why there is no action by police against Jason Neo! Is this true? If not true, why no clarification to refute such false allegation? If true, why no explanation to clarify why no action, and why intimidate the person who file the police report against Jason Neo?

Also, the AG presses charges against Amos Yee about distributing obscene image, but until now, we still don't know what is their real definition of "obscene"! Could they clearly explain in what way is the distributed image by Amos "obscene"? Can't be just some subjectively perceived "obscene" which they can't describe in words right?
Otherwise talking about "perceived obscene", isn't those rape scenes broadcast by Mediacorp even more obscene than Amos Yee's distributed cartoon image since they are composed of thousands of images in consecutive actions (as opposed of 1 image by Amos), can be easily viewed by young children and hence have broader reach and greater influence to corrupt the young minds?!

However, it seems that from your remarks, you are saying that the AG is unable to charge Amos on the 3rd charge, which means that you are saying that the AG is just threatening Amos Yee with a false 3rd charge?
And hence the AG has to persist to make the first 2 charges stick to bring Amos Yee to task and teach him a good lesson?

These are the real questions many people have and it will be better if they address these questions since doubts remaining will linger for long long time to come..................

I suggest if u think its unjust u should go make a police report . Or maybe go engage a lawyer.The fact is he was not charged of hartasment. That's theFACT. U can twist the shot all u want in ur imaginatiN. Are u On drugs? Cannot read? Or hallucinating?

[teddybear]

minority,
I am asking you because you seem to strongly agree that the picture posted by Amos Yee is "obscene", so on what basis? Or you also have no idea and just a parrot and brown tonguing?

Why that picture posted by Amos Yee is "obscene" when MediaCorp's rape scene video is not "obscene" (with those compromising positions and actions)? What doggy? Those MediaCorp's rape scene also have doggy and/or raping by force with corruptible and despicable actions right?

Don't understand how you end up talking about whose picture with ur dad's face giving u one up in ur ass doggy style? What face when the picture is just a hilarious cartoon? Are you offended with the face? So you are telling us that what is "obscene" in the picture is because of the face of LKY in the picture and so minus the LKY's face the picture will become not obscene right?
Then, all the more the AG should charge Amos Yee on the 3rd charge, under the Harassment Act for saying bad things about LKY and using his face to insinuate him badly! Charge to refute Amos Yee directly, don't need to beat around the bush right? End up people causing people to think and speculate otherwise that the AG agree with Amos Yee that "LKY is a horrible man" or that Amos Yee has evidence to support his statement that "LKY is a horrible man" right?

You saying due to our low moral standard we think Amos Yee's posted picture is not obscene? Come on, Amos Yee's posted picture is just a hilarious cartoon picture! How you can imagine until rode brokeback or whatever? More like those people's mind, including yours, are really filthy that is why can judge that Amos Yee's posted picture is "obscene" through your own imagination and easily aroused?
How about this picture posted in this internet webpage:
is this picture "obscene"?
Think this webpage said it right?

Based on what you said about replacing the picture with ur dad's face giving u one up in ur ass doggy style, u getting rode brokeback style by your dad, this picture definitely MUST BE "obscene" also right? Time for you to file a police report on this "obscene" picture?

Why are u asking me ? U dumb ass u should be asking those people who made police report that they are offended. Perhaps is due to ur low moral standard that u don't find it obscene. Perhaps replace the picture with ur dad's face giving u one up in ur ass doggy style is something u find pleasent . I am sure many don't appericate the sight of u getting rode brokeback style by your dad. Ur fantasy should best be kept to urself.

minority,
still waiting for you reply to explain why the picture posted by Amos Yee is considered "obscene"?
Many people like me can only understand when there are clear layman-term explanations, like what I queried below..................

You also can't explain right?????

[minority]

minority,
I am asking you because you seem to strongly agree that the picture posted by Amos Yee is "obscene", so on what basis? Or you also have no idea and just a parrot and brown tonguing?

Why that picture posted by Amos Yee is "obscene" when MediaCorp's rape scene video is not "obscene" (with those compromising positions and actions)? What doggy? Those MediaCorp's rape scene also have doggy and/or raping by force with corruptible and despicable actions right?

Don't understand how you end up talking about whose picture with ur dad's face giving u one up in ur ass doggy style? What face when the picture is just a hilarious cartoon? Are you offended with the face? So you are telling us that what is "obscene" in the picture is because of the face of LKY in the picture and so minus the LKY's face the picture will become not obscene right?
Then, all the more the AG should charge Amos Yee on the 3rd charge, under the Harassment Act for saying bad things about LKY and using his face to insinuate him badly! Charge to refute Amos Yee directly, don't need to beat around the bush right? End up people causing people to think and speculate otherwise that the AG agree with Amos Yee that "LKY is a horrible man" or that Amos Yee has evidence to support his statement that "LKY is a horrible man" right?

You saying due to our low moral standard we think Amos Yee's posted picture is not obscene? Come on, Amos Yee's posted picture is just a hilarious cartoon picture! How you can imagine until rode brokeback or whatever? More like those people's mind, including yours, are really filthy that is why can judge that Amos Yee's posted picture is "obscene" through your own imagination and easily aroused?
How about this picture posted in this internet webpage:
is this picture "obscene"?
Think this webpage said it right?

Based on what you said about replacing the picture with ur dad's face giving u one up in ur ass doggy style, u getting rode brokeback style by your dad, this picture definitely MUST BE "obscene" also right? Time for you to file a police report on this "obscene" picture?

Interesting to know have having your dads doing a broke back hump on you being depicted in picture is not obscene for you. You must have been living a incestious life style who else in your family like such decent act? your mother? grand mother? sister? After all its decent to you right?

I FIND YOU DISGUSTING LEH.. so how?

[teddybear]

minority,
Stop beating around the bush.......... You got no ball and no brain to answer a simple question?????????

Ask you the same question again:
How about this picture posted in this internet webpage:
is this picture "obscene" with Amos Yee?

Think this webpage said it right?

Really, is it the picture Amos Yee posted (minus the face) that is obscene or is it the face in the picture that is obscene????

Interesting to know have having your dads doing a broke back hump on you being depicted in picture is not obscene for you. You must have been living a incestious life style who else in your family like such decent act? your mother? grand mother? sister? After all its decent to you right?

I FIND YOU DISGUSTING LEH.. so how?

minority,
I am asking you because you seem to strongly agree that the picture posted by Amos Yee is "obscene", so on what basis? Or you also have no idea and just a parrot and brown tonguing?

Why that picture posted by Amos Yee is "obscene" when MediaCorp's rape scene video is not "obscene" (with those compromising positions and actions)? What doggy? Those MediaCorp's rape scene also have doggy and/or raping by force with corruptible and despicable actions right?

Don't understand how you end up talking about whose picture with ur dad's face giving u one up in ur ass doggy style? What face when the picture is just a hilarious cartoon? Are you offended with the face? So you are telling us that what is "obscene" in the picture is because of the face of LKY in the picture and so minus the LKY's face the picture will become not obscene right?
Then, all the more the AG should charge Amos Yee on the 3rd charge, under the Harassment Act for saying bad things about LKY and using his face to insinuate him badly! Charge to refute Amos Yee directly, don't need to beat around the bush right? End up people causing people to think and speculate otherwise that the AG agree with Amos Yee that "LKY is a horrible man" or that Amos Yee has evidence to support his statement that "LKY is a horrible man" right?

You saying due to our low moral standard we think Amos Yee's posted picture is not obscene? Come on, Amos Yee's posted picture is just a hilarious cartoon picture! How you can imagine until rode brokeback or whatever? More like those people's mind, including yours, are really filthy that is why can judge that Amos Yee's posted picture is "obscene" through your own imagination and easily aroused?
How about this picture posted in this internet webpage:
is this picture "obscene"?
Think this webpage said it right?

Based on what you said about replacing the picture with ur dad's face giving u one up in ur ass doggy style, u getting rode brokeback style by your dad, this picture definitely MUST BE "obscene" also right? Time for you to file a police report on this "obscene" picture?

[minority]

minority,
Stop beating around the bush.......... You got no ball and no brain to answer a simple question?????????

Ask you the same question again:
How about this picture posted in this internet webpage:
is this picture "obscene" with Amos Yee?

Think this webpage said it right?

Really, is it the picture Amos Yee posted (minus the face) that is obscene or is it the face in the picture that is obscene????

Talk about balls!!! IF YOU THINK ITS UNJUST FOR AMOS I SUGGEST YOU LODGE A POLICE REPORT ! OR GO HIRE A LAWYER TO SUE !! WHY ARE YOU STILL SITTING HERE TALKING COCK????????

OR ARE YOU SITTING ON YOUR FATHER's?

[teddybear]

I will not stoop as low as some people like you..............
And anyway I have no need to brown tongue.................................

Again, please explain in what way is the picture posted by Amos Yee "obscene"?
Compare that to the rape scenes in video broadcast by MediaCorp?

Talk about balls!!! IF YOU THINK ITS UNJUST FOR AMOS I SUGGEST YOU LODGE A POLICE REPORT ! OR GO HIRE A LAWYER TO SUE !! WHY ARE YOU STILL SITTING HERE TALKING COCK????????

OR ARE YOU SITTING ON YOUR FATHER's?

[minority]

I will not stoop as low as some people like you..............
And anyway I have no need to brown tongue.................................

Again, please explain in what way is the picture posted by Amos Yee "obscene"?
Compare that to the rape scenes in video broadcast by MediaCorp?

PLS SHOW US THE RAPE SCENE YOU SEE AS EQUALLY OBSCENE? DONT TALK WITHOUT SUBSTANCE!!! PLS SHOW US??? CAN TALK COCK IS VERY CHEAP.

NO NEED OT BROWN TOUNGE? WAT FART BROWN TOUNGE?? I AM GIVEING YOU A DOSE OF SO CALL NON OBSCENE AMOS LANGUAGE THAT YOU SAY IS NOT OBSCENE AND IS ACCEPTABLE MAH?? WHY CANNOT ACCPET IT? HAVE DOUBLE STANDARDS?? COME ON.. DONT LIKE DAT!!! WE KNOW YOU LIKE IT!!! YOUR DADDY LIKE TO SAYANG YOU WITH YOU BENDED OVER... SO DONT SHY!!! COME COME..... BEND OVER!!!

ITS NOT OBSCENE MAH... ITS JUST LIKE ALL THE MOVIES ON TV AS U SAY!!!!

[teddybear]

minority,

Show you the rape scene? Don't act blurrrrrrrrrrrr, I had already added the link in my previous post, see here........

In case you act blur again, I made direct link of the obscene rape scene here........

And another obscene rape scene here, even more obscene and can strongly corrupt the young mind especially when TV is easily accessible and viewable by the very young (unlike internet they don't have access easily)...........

Don't forget, these are NOT CARTOOn picture, these are VIDEOs................

Given the above obscene snapshot of the obscene rape videos broadcast by MediaCorp, I am repeating my question to you again:
please explain in what way is the picture posted by Amos Yee "obscene"?
Compare that to the rape scenes in video broadcast by MediaCorp?

minority,
You are avoiding the question because you cannot find any valid reason to explain how Amos Yee's posted picture is "obscene" right?!!!!!!!!

If Amos Yee's posted picture is "obscene", then below picture MUST be "obscene" right????
How about this picture posted in this internet webpage:
is this picture "obscene"?
Think this webpage said it right?

You saying due to our low moral standard we think Amos Yee's posted picture is not obscene? Come on, Amos Yee's posted picture is just a hilarious cartoon picture! Due to our standard, we think MediaCorp's TV broadcast of those rape scenes are very very obscene, then those rape scenes should be "SUPER DUPER OBSCENE" based on you people's high standard right? Why suddenly you don't feel those rape scenes being OBSCENE? More like those people's mind, including yours, are really filthy that is why can judge that Amos Yee's posted picture is "obscene" through your own imagination and easily aroused? And/Or because you all are trying to pick bone in egg??????

minority,
As usual, you will stoop very low to smear other people, but never use a mirror to look yourself, the filthy dirty minded with no integrity and moral character, and yet always want to judge other people and accuse others for having no integrity and moral character, and can even put "莫须有" crime on others.................

PLS SHOW US THE RAPE SCENE YOU SEE AS EQUALLY OBSCENE? DONT TALK WITHOUT SUBSTANCE!!! PLS SHOW US??? CAN TALK COCK IS VERY CHEAP.

NO NEED OT BROWN TOUNGE? WAT FART BROWN TOUNGE?? I AM GIVEING YOU A DOSE OF SO CALL NON OBSCENE AMOS LANGUAGE THAT YOU SAY IS NOT OBSCENE AND IS ACCEPTABLE MAH?? WHY CANNOT ACCPET IT? HAVE DOUBLE STANDARDS?? COME ON.. DONT LIKE DAT!!! WE KNOW YOU LIKE IT!!! YOUR DADDY LIKE TO SAYANG YOU WITH YOU BENDED OVER... SO DONT SHY!!! COME COME..... BEND OVER!!!

ITS NOT OBSCENE MAH... ITS JUST LIKE ALL THE MOVIES ON TV AS U SAY!!!!

I will not stoop as low as some people like you..............
And anyway I have no need to brown tongue.................................

Again, please explain in what way is the picture posted by Amos Yee "obscene"?
Compare that to the rape scenes in video broadcast by MediaCorp?

[minority]

Don't talk come show us the scene leh!!!!! Ubonly talk cock n beat around the bush

[teddybear]

You blind or act blur???????????
Go see the link in my previous post there.......

Don't talk come show us the scene leh!!!!! Ubonly talk cock n beat around the bush

[minority]

You blind or act blur???????????
Go see the link in my previous post there.......

Talk cock lah. all cloths as good as a make out scene. Just some one sitting on another person fully cloth u want to compare? WTF. Anyway way If you think its obscene pls go report police then!! What cock and bull shit .

Why change topic ah?? ANSWER MY QUESTION LEH?? DONT FLIP PRATA LEH!!!

[teddybear]

Very funny, so all cloths make out scene, some one sitting on another fully cloth means not obscene? But that is only 1 picture, you gonna see the obscene rape actions in process yet that was broadcast by MediaCorp?????

On the other hand, the picture posted by Amos Yee contains a a stick figure standing behind another stick figure, just "stick figures", no flesh, just lines, like that called "obscene"? May be in your own imagination and those who find it "obscene"????

What questions, I would be very glad to answer you............

Talk cock lah. all cloths as good as a make out scene. Just some one sitting on another person fully cloth u want to compare? WTF. Anyway way If you think its obscene pls go report police then!! What cock and bull shit .

Why change topic ah?? ANSWER MY QUESTION LEH?? DONT FLIP PRATA LEH!!!

[minority]

Very funny, so all cloths make out scene, some one sitting on another fully cloth means not obscene? But that is only 1 picture, you gonna see the obscene rape actions in process yet that was broadcast by MediaCorp?????

On the other hand, the picture posted by Amos Yee contains a a stick figure standing behind another stick figure, just "stick figures", no flesh, just lines, like that called "obscene"? May be in your own imagination and those who find it "obscene"????

What questions, I would be very glad to answer you............

AS usual out right lie. !!!! U think people here donno how to google? its a full body drawing of 2 nude body in a wheel barrel pose. So don't come BULL SHIT US ITS STICK FIGURES LAH!

AS USUAL U LIE WITH YOU YOUR FARTING EYES OPEN!! U THINK WE ARE ALL STUPID NEVER READ OR DONNO HOW TO GOOGLE? SO I DRAW A PENIS ON YOUR HEAD IS NOT OBSCENE? WOW!!! I THINK YOU CAN BE THE UNICON MASCOT FOR THIS FORUM LEH!!! SINCE LIKE YOU SAY THESE PICTURE OF A DRAWING IS NOT OBSCENE LEH! AND I GUARANTEE ITS NOT STICK FIGURE LIKE YOU BULL SHITED AND OURRIGHT LIED.

NAHHH

[teddybear]

minority,
Don't lie again..........
The MediaCorp rape scene is a video with actions hor......, not just a picture.......
The video depicts a man sitting on a woman to keep her in place, forcing a woman to take off clothings such that they become scantily dressed, partially exposed, taking off his own clothings, and then forcing himself on the woman with force in various positions (what positions do you call that? wheel barrel pose included?).......... You let young boys and teenagers watch these, if this will not corrupt their mind then what will? And furthermore this is broadcast on TV, that even a young boy 5 years old also can switch on the TV easily!!!!!

I doubt Amos Yee's posted picture will have this effect since that is a picture of 2 stick figures, picture got no action, how would young boys know what is wheel barrel pose when they can't even see private parts of the 2 stick figures and there is no flesh to see (since stick figures only)? More like those people who say Amos Yee's posted picture is "obscene" is because they are real dirty minded and think "obscenity" immediately by just looking at 2 stick figures???
Furthermore, the picture doesn't and can't teach the young boys how to rape girls (no action since picture only), and young boys have no access to internet or don't know how to access (since can't get pass computer password, internet filters etc)!!!!!!! So it is clear that MediaCorp rape scenes on TV can more easily reach young boys and teenagers and is much more effective to corrupt young boys!!!!!!

minority,
Didn't you say that you and they want to teach Amos Yee a lesson BUT can't charge Amos for saying LKY is a horrible man?
So is this the real reason why you keep insisting that the stick figure picture posted by Amos Yee is "obscene"?????????

And strangely, the person who slapped Amos Yee got off with a 3 weeks jail for committing violence while Amos Yee got 4 weeks jail for posting a video...........
Since when violence crime is less serious than posting a video hah????????????

AS usual out right lie. !!!! U think people here donno how to google? its a full body drawing of 2 nude body in a wheel barrel pose. So don't come BULL SHIT US ITS STICK FIGURES LAH!

AS USUAL U LIE WITH YOU YOUR FARTING EYES OPEN!! U THINK WE ARE ALL STUPID NEVER READ OR DONNO HOW TO GOOGLE? SO I DRAW A PENIS ON YOUR HEAD IS NOT OBSCENE? WOW!!! I THINK YOU CAN BE THE UNICON MASCOT FOR THIS FORUM LEH!!! SINCE LIKE YOU SAY THESE PICTURE OF A DRAWING IS NOT OBSCENE LEH! AND I GUARANTEE ITS NOT STICK FIGURE LIKE YOU BULL SHITED AND OURRIGHT LIED.

NAHHH

[minority]

minority,
Don't lie again..........
The MediaCorp rape scene is a video with actions hor......, not just a picture.......
The video depicts a man sitting on a woman to keep her in place, forcing a woman to take off clothings such that they become scantily dressed, partially exposed, taking off his own clothings, and then forcing himself on the woman with force in various positions (what positions do you call that? wheel barrel pose included?).......... You let young boys and teenagers watch these, if this will not corrupt their mind then what will? And furthermore this is broadcast on TV, that even a young boy 5 years old also can switch on the TV easily!!!!!

I doubt Amos Yee's posted picture will have this effect since that is a picture of 2 stick figures, picture got no action, how would young boys know what is wheel barrel pose when they can't even see private parts of the 2 stick figures and there is no flesh to see (since stick figures only)? More like those people who say Amos Yee's posted picture is "obscene" is because they are real dirty minded and think "obscenity" immediately by just looking at 2 stick figures???
Furthermore, the picture doesn't and can't teach the young boys how to rape girls (no action since picture only), and young boys have no access to internet or don't know how to access (since can't get pass computer password, internet filters etc)!!!!!!! So it is clear that MediaCorp rape scenes on TV can more easily reach young boys and teenagers and is much more effective to corrupt young boys!!!!!!

minority,
Didn't you say that you and they want to teach Amos Yee a lesson BUT can't charge Amos for saying LKY is a horrible man?
So is this the real reason why you keep insisting that the stick figure picture posted by Amos Yee is "obscene"?????????

And strangely, the person who slapped Amos Yee got off with a 3 weeks jail for committing violence while Amos Yee got 4 weeks jail for posting a video...........
Since when violence crime is less serious than posting a video hah????????????

Who the FART Care what you think leh? Wah lau!! like your ant brian think 16K is middle income.. WAT JOKE.. stick figures ?????? A FULL BODY NUDE DRAWING IS STICK FIGURE!!! ... As usual goal post change again. prata flipped.....

YOUR DICK IS A STICK AH??? SO I DRAW A PENIS ON YOUR HEAD OK?? WHY U NEVER ANSWER? COZ ITS NOT OBSCENE MAH U SAY!

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Say slow enough for your pea brian?