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    Quote Originally Posted by bolster View Post
    Alamak. no supporter?
    just click on advertisement? just let us know. should be no problem to click on adverts right?

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    Ya. If no click, my fate will be like property carrot.

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    just saying, when any data seller sells any valuable data, they are actually selling a license to the subscriber to use the data. and that license will, for the data seller's own protection, comes with a condition not to resell or redistribute the data. if you are the data seller, your business will be cannibalised if you don't put a provision like that in.

    i don't know what happen to property carrot, but i thought from day one he must breaching a data use term and that sooner or later, they will go knocking on pc's door. and the same thing is likely to happen to whoever who tries it again....

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    Quote Originally Posted by smellyfish View Post
    just saying, when any data seller sells any valuable data, they are actually selling a license to the subscriber to use the data. and that license will, for the data seller's own protection, comes with a condition not to resell or redistribute the data. if you are the data seller, your business will be cannibalised if you don't put a provision like that in.

    i don't know what happen to property carrot, but i thought from day one he must breaching a data use term and that sooner or later, they will go knocking on pc's door. and the same thing is likely to happen to whoever who tries it again....
    you stopped short of saying the seller of the valuable data is the gahmen...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bolster View Post
    Hey. I have an idea. i am web developer. I can help to generate the website within a week exactly like propertycarrot for free with the web hosting.

    But need you guys to help me click on the advertisement. Once achieve $80 from the advertisement, i can use the $$ to buy the data from the realis.

    Don't need to register or subscribe.

    Don't need to contribute any $$. Just help to click the advertise from the app or website.
    someone i know is working on it now ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bargain hunter View Post
    you stopped short of saying the seller of the valuable data is the gahmen...



    When you lodge a caveat ...govt collect money
    Yet to access the data, URA charges a fee ..

    How can govt SELLs our data ?

    If they can sell , anyone can Re-sell ...

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    Hi Bolster, are you going to build it?

    Lets make it ad free. I would sponsor the 80$ per week to download the data and we would provide member on this thread with free access.

    Could you guys PM me your number so we could discuss in WA group on how to move forward?

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    Sure. I can setup the database and the code.

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    I will sponsor the website and database. I did a simple website using old data.

    http://www.eevending.com/property.php

    Waiting for kellogs sponsor to sponsor the latest caveat data.

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    is it still $80 per download?


    i remember paying this amount like 10 years ago ...

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    wonder what happened to carrots

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    It is 1800 SGD per year subscription to Realis

    I am working out few details and i think we could have a site up ... hopefully in the next few months.

    May I know if anyone is interested to be a beta tester or has any wishlist.

    Please list out your wishlist for the new site and we would do our best to build it into the system

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    Quote Originally Posted by kellogs View Post
    It is 1800 SGD per year subscription to Realis

    I am working out few details and i think we could have a site up ... hopefully in the next few months.

    May I know if anyone is interested to be a beta tester or has any wishlist.

    Please list out your wishlist for the new site and we would do our best to build it into the system
    Propertycarrots was pretty good I think. Maybe an addition is a sorting function in terms of size or price.

    $1,800 is not a big, but also not a small sum to pay on a regular basis.

    One possible use is to come up with another kind of index that is of a different nature to the existing indices, some of which do not reflect the actual picture of price movements accurately.
    The three laws of Kelonguni:

    Where there is kelong, there is guni.
    No kelong no guni.
    More kelong = more guni.

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    May be a column stating the transacted price in $psf per years of lease remaining (for 99-years leasehold properties) - as suggested by ST Journalist, see here:
    http://www.straitstimes.com/opinion/...s-asking-price
    so that it is easier for people to know whether they are over-paying for their aging 99-years leasehold properties...............


    Quote Originally Posted by kellogs View Post
    It is 1800 SGD per year subscription to Realis

    I am working out few details and i think we could have a site up ... hopefully in the next few months.

    May I know if anyone is interested to be a beta tester or has any wishlist.

    Please list out your wishlist for the new site and we would do our best to build it into the system

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    Realis has replied my email and I quote

    "We also do not have any subscription plan which includes 3rd party redistribution rights."

    So seems like we would not be able to use their data ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kellogs View Post
    Realis has replied my email and I quote

    "We also do not have any subscription plan which includes 3rd party redistribution rights."

    So seems like we would not be able to use their data ...
    Write to LHL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kellogs View Post
    Realis has replied my email and I quote

    "We also do not have any subscription plan which includes 3rd party redistribution rights."

    So seems like we would not be able to use their data ...
    did you ask them how does squarefoot do it? are they violating?

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    This is why 99.co got the support.

    https://www.zillow.com/homes/

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    I assume LHL is our PM? I think it is a joke to write to Mr Lee to ask for this!

    Bro Bargain Hunter, No i did not ask them how other sites manage to get the data ...

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    I don't think putting the data on the website and not collecting any money is considered "distributing to 3rd party" isn't it?
    Furthermore, usually if you are considered "distribute to 3rd party", you need to be profiting from it, but in your case you don't.

    Otherwise how other vendors like Squarefoot do it? Sounds like either they exploit the gray area or the reply from is Realis is not correct?

    As usual, typical of civil servant reply, they will not say anything not written in black and white in their book (have many such experience with BCA / URA), and they don't dare to even clarify their own regulatory clauses when I ask for more clarifications (telling me I have to consult my own lawyer)............. Ah lamak! they wrote the rules and they can't clarify it because I found them vague and they need me to engage lawyer? Does my lawyer write the rules and hence he can clarify better or they?


    Quote Originally Posted by kellogs View Post
    Realis has replied my email and I quote

    "We also do not have any subscription plan which includes 3rd party redistribution rights."

    So seems like we would not be able to use their data ...

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