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    Quote Originally Posted by TravieJackie View Post
    I need some urgent help again. Regarding this issue, my agent said the piping inside wore off so not neglicence issue as piping is hidden from view so we have to bear all. True? Or grey area?

    We have taken over the flat, a lot of damages like crack at basin n we need to change vanity counter due to this. Do tenant bear all? That cant be normal wear and tear what.. they said not purposely spoilt but to me, it's negligence right?

    So many probs and things to claim but they threatening to bring us to court...

    Even hanging system also totally spoilt and cannot repair... can claim full?
    I would claim the cracked basin and the hanging system(? - i assume at wardrobe).

    As for the toilet, I'm wondering how "pipe inside wore off" can happen, perhaps agent meant rubber seal worn and cracked due to age. Suggest you get confirmation of exact nature of failure first. If it's rubber seal then I guess landlord has no choice but to replace it at their own expense.

    May I ask, what kind of tenants are these? Angmoh?


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    Yeah, rubber seal inside toilet bowl. I'm ok to pay. If contract states so. Just want to understand what falls under our expense and theirs? Why is this our expense?

    Hanging system is the clothes hanger, so bad til cannot use and keep dropping on my workers' heads that I told them to take down. What if it injure them?

    We kept all receipts and quotes as renovating now.

    They return house on last day and we cannot let them repair anymore as my renovation started the next day. No time to waste as i am renting elsehere and need to move out by a certain day to stay. Even my aircon check has to be done now and serviced later just as to get a quote from them. This is becuase they only serviced twiced and not all units and claimed lost their recipts.

    They are indian nationals.


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    I think the nationality is irrelevant here.

    You put yourself in tenants' shoe. Do you think tenants should pay?

    For example, pipe is hidden and leaking. To me it is grey as well and so according to contract, LL bear anything in excess of xxx dollars. Remember the contract states they have to repair for the first xxx dollars.

    Toilet bowl seal leaking - Could be wear and tear also.

    Must also see how many years they stay there. The longer they have stayed there, the more wear and tear.

    Same for clothes hanger. There is a shelf life one. Cannot be the hanger last forever. But cannot say it only lasted 1 year only.

    Lastly, I don't think anyone will take you to court. Never ever return the deposit to them first. Once you return, you won't be able to claim back. And also, the court see evidences. Usually all these are settled by the small claim tribunal and they will give a verdict on the spot so no issue one.

    Remember the key words - Reasonable wear and tear. If they stay there for 10 years, obviously most of the things will need to be replaced. If they stay there for 1 year, then most of the things should be reasonably new.

    Hope you get my point.


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    Try to work out a percentage to show that some items you paid.
    The three laws of Kelonguni:

    Where there is kelong, there is guni.
    No kelong no guni.
    More kelong = more guni.


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    Thank you for all your help!!

    Got it and dont think we are inreasonable. The house is pretty new. Renovated 4 years back and good quality reno some more.


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