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    Quote Originally Posted by bargain hunter View Post
    ah yes, 500m walk, 400m swim.

    I believe a bridge will be built across the canal. If so, 400m without getting their shirts wet.

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    Most probably this line will extend to join haw par villa mrt next time to serve west coast community.

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    Quote Originally Posted by azeoprop View Post
    Most probably this line will extend to join haw par villa mrt next time to serve west coast community.
    but we're looking at 2030 or even another further delay for that.

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    Strong take-up of Twin VEW apartments

    May 7, 2018

    CSC Land's West Coast Vale project fetches average price of $1,399 psf, with 85% snapped up

    Annabeth Leow


    CSC Land Group saw a "strong response" at the weekend launch of Twin VEW in West Coast Vale, the Chinese developer's head honcho has said.

    Buyers snapped up 442 of the condominium's 520 apartments - including four of its six penthouses - for a take-up rate of 85 per cent.

    They coughed up an average sales price of $1,399 per sq ft (psf) for the 99-year leasehold development, which is expected to be ready by the fourth quarter of 2021.

    Just down the road, EL Development's Parc Riviera debuted at an average of $1,150 psf in late 2016.

    CSC Land chairman Li Xiao Qian said in a media statement: "We are very encouraged by the strong response this weekend...

    "From this weekend's sales figures alone, all unit types have been very well received, demonstrating the diversity offered by Twin VEW. We are confident that this momentum will continue."

    Two 36-storey towers will house one-to four-bedders from 484 sq ft to 1,518 sq ft, as well as the penthouses. Indicative prices started at $650,000 for a one-bedroom apartment.

    Promotional materials have also advertised two shops and a childcare centre on site, along with "sky terraces" and other amenities such as swimming pools and a gym.

    Twin VEW is the maiden residential project from CSC Land. Its parent, construction juggernaut China Construction (South Pacific) Development, paid $592 psf per plot ratio (ppr) for the site in a nine-way fight last year.

    Most of the home buyers at Twin VEW's launch were Singapore citizens and permanent residents, with nine units bagged by foreign nationals from China, Indonesia and Europe.

    ERA property agent Jason Chen, who said he has sold two one-bedroom units, noted the project's proximity to both the Jurong Lake District and the planned Kuala Lumpur-Singapore high-speed rail's terminus.

    "One other selling point is that an adjacent land parcel was bought by City Developments Ltd (CDL) for about $200 higher" on a unit basis, Mr Chen added.

    CDL paid $800 psf ppr for a West Coast Vale site at a state tender in January. CSC Land was the runner-up in that auction.

    Mr Nicholas Mak, ZACD Group's research head, said at the time that CDL "would need to launch the residential units at above $1,400 psf to make decent profit".

    Mr Chen said the higher price tag for the recent parcel might have induced bargain hunters to snap up Twin VEW units while they could.

    Industry watchers are expecting at least 12,000 new private homes to be sold islandwide this year, excluding executive condominiums - up on the 10,566 units moved last year.

    Ms Tricia Song, the Singapore research head for Colliers International, last month said stronger new launch prices have "continued to affirm the resilience in mass market residential segment".

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    454 units sold at a weighted average price of 1380psf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bargain hunter View Post
    454 units sold at a weighted average price of 1380psf.
    Then, units at Botannia and Carabelle should be going for at least $1,450 psf. These condos are virtually free hold and have low density.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stalingrad View Post
    Then, units at Botannia and Carabelle should be going for at least $1,450 psf. These condos are virtually free hold and have low density.
    'live' prices at botannia are at 12xxpsf (those facing future cdl project) and 13xxpsf for some other units. so there has been some positive impact for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stalingrad View Post
    Then, units at Botannia and Carabelle should be going for at least $1,450 psf. These condos are virtually free hold and have low density.
    You forgot to price in a premium for newness.
    The three laws of Kelonguni:

    Where there is kelong, there is guni.
    No kelong no guni.
    More kelong = more guni.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelonguni View Post
    You forgot to price in a premium for newness.
    I did. If Botannia and Carabelle were new, they would be going for $1600 psf. And since these projects are only 8 years old, they deserve only a 10% discount for not being brand new.

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    Another consideration is total quantum rather than psf.

    I believe those two mentioned (Carabelle is 999 LH), the base price will be over 1.5mil based on their sizes. They may be good buys for longer term investment but not sexy enough because of quantum.
    The three laws of Kelonguni:

    Where there is kelong, there is guni.
    No kelong no guni.
    More kelong = more guni.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelonguni View Post
    Another consideration is total quantum rather than psf.

    I believe those two mentioned (Carabelle is 999 LH), the base price will be over 1.5mil based on their sizes. They may be good buys for longer term investment but not sexy enough because of quantum.
    999LH is not FH. Technically, you are right. But economically speaking, you are wrong.

    Second, Carabelle is not a warren for mickey mouse condos. That means residents of a higher social class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stalingrad View Post
    999LH is not FH. Technically, you are right. But economically speaking, you are wrong.

    Second, Carabelle is not a warren for mickey mouse condos. That means residents of a higher social class.
    In this vicinity there are also 15-20 year old LH99 properties going for around 900-1000 psf. Maybe buyers are generally willing to pay 200psf more for FH or LH999 tenure.
    The three laws of Kelonguni:

    Where there is kelong, there is guni.
    No kelong no guni.
    More kelong = more guni.

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    i didn't notice the record psf for this project is > 1700psf lol.

    TWIN VEW WEST COAST VALE Apartment 05 OCR 99 yrs lease commencing from 2017 New Sale 1 $836,000 - 484sq ft Strata 31 to 35 1,726psf May-18

    but this record quantum set AFTER the cooling measures is simply mind-blowing:

    TWIN VEW WEST COAST VALE Apartment 05 OCR 99 years leasehold New Sale 1 $3,278,000 - 2,088sq ft Strata 36 to 40 1,570psf Aug-18

    the 2088sq ft includes some airspace i think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bargain hunter View Post
    i didn't notice the record psf for this project is > 1700psf lol.

    TWIN VEW WEST COAST VALE Apartment 05 OCR 99 yrs lease commencing from 2017 New Sale 1 $836,000 - 484sq ft Strata 31 to 35 1,726psf May-18

    but this record quantum set AFTER the cooling measures is simply mind-blowing:

    TWIN VEW WEST COAST VALE Apartment 05 OCR 99 years leasehold New Sale 1 $3,278,000 - 2,088sq ft Strata 36 to 40 1,570psf Aug-18

    the 2088sq ft includes some airspace i think.
    But it is still a leasehold...

    In the west coast area, maybe you want to consider the Parc Condo, Freehold. It is the only condo nearest to the Clementi MRT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bolster View Post
    But it is still a leasehold...

    In the west coast area, maybe you want to consider the Parc Condo, Freehold. It is the only condo nearest to the Clementi MRT.
    yup, i was just updating the data on this thread that's all.

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    Twin Vew buyers who FOMO prepare to get rekt. Whistler grand (nearby) selling cheaper yo

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    the average price based on the 454 caveats is 1382psf. Whistler Grand's launch announcement is 1380psf. However, the units are smaller which makes the quantum more affordable. agents would emphasise that this project will be one of the last with small units/small unit sizes in the west coast. twin vew land cost 500+psf. Whistler Grand's land cost 800psf. what the cooling measures has done is taken the bulk of developer profits to give to buyers. prices would have been at least 100psf more if not for the measures.

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