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    May 21, 2010

    31 sites for private homes

    By Koh Hui Theng


    SOME 31 sites are coming onto the market in the second half of 2010, yielding almost 14,000 private homes - the biggest potential supply since 2001.

    To meet the strong demand for private housing and land, the Ministry of National Develoment (MND) will release 27 residential sites and four mixed-use sites under the Government Land Sales (GLS) Programme for the second half of the year.

    Together, they can generate 13,905 private residential units.

    Most of the 31 sites are located outside the Central Region, where more affordable private housing are expected to be built.

    In the first quarter of this year, there were over 63,500 private residential units in the pipeline, of which 42,717 are expected to be completed between the second quarter of 2010 and 2013.

    Almost a third of the units will be in Core Central Region, or the prime districts.

    In a statement on Friday, the MND that another 6,270 units from sites sold or to be sold under the second half GLS programme were not included to the pipeline as submission for planning approval had not been made.
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    May 21, 2010

    More homes, hotels to come

    By Koh Hui Theng


    MORE land for homes, hotels and shops are coming up, said the Ministry of National Development on Friday.

    Besides the 27 sites to be released in the second half of 2010, another three commercial sites, three commercial and residential sites, two white sites and 10 hotel sites will also be available on the confirmed and reserve lists.

    The supply is likely to yield 13,905 private residential units, 399,830 sqm Gross Floor Area (GFA) of commercial space and 3,750 hotel rooms.

    As at the first quarter of 2010, there is a total supply of about 1.02 million sqm GFA of office space from various Government and private land sources in the pipeline. Of these, about 931,000 sqm GFA of office space is expected to be completed between the second quarter of 2010 and 2013.

    For the shop and hotel sectors, a total supply of about 428,000 sqm GFA of shop space and 15,031 hotel rooms are in the works. Most are expected to be completed between the second quarter of 2010 and 2013.

    The estimated pipeline supply is based on expected project completion dates provided to the Urban Redevelopment Authority by developers on a quarterly basis. These completion dates will be updated when URA releases the second quarter Real Estate Statistics in end-July 2010.

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    May 21, 2010

    More land for private homes

    By Joyce Teo


    THE Government on Friday annnounced it will place a whopping 18 sites for confirmed sale in the second half of this year to meet the strong demand for private housing and land.

    These sites can yield 13,905 residential units.

    It will also release another 13 sites on the reserve list that can yield 5770 residential units.

    Together, these 31 sites can generate 13,905 units, the highest potential supply quantum from any Government land sales since the second half of 2001.

    The Government sells land under the confirmed list method and the reserve list.

    The former is where sites are put up for sale regardless of developers' prior indications of interest.

    The latter is where sites are only put up for sale if developers show interest in them.

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    Govt to release 31 residential sites in 2nd half

    Posted: 21 May 2010 1743 hrs


    SINGAPORE: The government is ramping up the supply of sites for private housing in the second half of the year to meet strong demand.

    All in, the second half of the Government Land Sales (GLS) programme will have 27 residential sites and four mixed-use sites where private housing can be built.

    21 are new sites and 10 sites will be carried over from the first half.

    Overall, the 31 sites in the second half of the Confirmed and Reserve Lists can generate 13,905 private residential units.

    The number is the highest potential supply quantum from any half-yearly period since the Confirmed List and Reserve List system started in 2001.

    Most of the sites in the second half are located in the suburban regions or in the city fringes.

    A National Development Ministry statement says it is placing 18 sites on the Confirmed List in the second half of the GLS programme.

    Together, these 18 sites can yield 8,135 residential units - the biggest supply of private housing from the Confirmed List since the Confirmed List/Reserve List system was introduced in 2001.

    The 18 Confirmed List sites comprise 15 residential sites, including five executive condo sites, two commercial and residential sites and a white site.

    Of these sites, 12 are new sites and six sites will be carried over from the first half.

    The Reserve List in the second half will have another 13 sites, which can together yield 5,770 residential units.

    The 13 Reserve List sites comprise 12 residential sites and one commercial & residential site, where
    private residential units can potentially be built.

    Of the 13 sites, nine are new sites and four sites will be carried over from the first half of the GLS programme.

    However, the government says it will be removing the white site at Ophir Road/Rochor Road from its land sales programme.

    The plot was made available for sale via the Reserve List in October 2008 and it is a strategic site earmarked as an extension of the commercial district.

    Three new white sites will also be available in the second half of 2010.

    These are plots at Choon Guan Street/Peck Seah Street, Paya Lebar Road/Eunos Road 8 and Boon Lay Way.

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    Almost all sites in OCR?

    Quote Originally Posted by mr funny
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    May 21, 2010

    31 sites for private homes

    By Koh Hui Theng


    SOME 31 sites are coming onto the market in the second half of 2010, yielding almost 14,000 private homes - the biggest potential supply since 2001.

    To meet the strong demand for private housing and land, the Ministry of National Develoment (MND) will release 27 residential sites and four mixed-use sites under the Government Land Sales (GLS) Programme for the second half of the year.

    Together, they can generate 13,905 private residential units.

    Most of the 31 sites are located outside the Central Region, where more affordable private housing are expected to be built.

    In the first quarter of this year, there were over 63,500 private residential units in the pipeline, of which 42,717 are expected to be completed between the second quarter of 2010 and 2013.

    Almost a third of the units will be in Core Central Region, or the prime districts.

    In a statement on Friday, the MND that another 6,270 units from sites sold or to be sold under the second half GLS programme were not included to the pipeline as submission for planning approval had not been made.

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    Mainly in the eastern and northern part of SG.

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    i tink govt take the opportunity to release land in punggol, pasir ris etc...They r very opprtunistic!

    only got a white site at peck seah in CCR...

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    The good ones are in reserved list. Almost all near existing or future MRTs e.g. Tanah Merah, Bartley , Bishan, Bedok Reservoir (DTL3), Sengkang MRT etc.

    The confirmed lists mostly are ECs far from MRT.

    TreeHouse will be blocked on the south side soon ...

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    buyers who bought treehouse are actually waiting to be blocked. they are punting that the remaining plots around when launched will jack up the price of The Treehouse. These buyers are not stupid, most are investors who are not buying for own stay. Look at the video of the packed showroom on balloting day and you will understand what i am saying.

    Quote Originally Posted by jitkiat
    The good ones are in reserved list. Almost all near existing or future MRTs e.g. Tanah Merah, Bartley , Bishan, Bedok Reservoir (DTL3), Sengkang MRT etc.

    The confirmed lists mostly are ECs far from MRT.

    TreeHouse will be blocked on the south side soon ...

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    Published May 22, 2010

    Govt bumps up land supply to cool market

    Record 14,405 private homes can be built on land offered this year; move likely to immediately douse sales, and tame prices ahead

    By KALPANA RASHIWALA AND UMA SHANKARI


    THE government yesterday dramatically increased the supply of land for the second half of this year to meet the demand for private homes. And the impact of this strong signal to the market is expected to be immediate, in terms of cooling home sales as well as dampening land bids. Prices are also expected to lose steam.

    A record number of at least 14,405 private homes are expected to be built from land sold this year - comprising an estimated 6,270 units from sites sold in H1 and an 8,135-unit supply from confirmed list sites that will be launched in the second half.

    This surpasses the previous record supply in 1997 when the government sold land for about 8,500 units.

    'I hope that with this increased supply, homebuyers will be assured that there is ample supply in the market and therefore there is no need to rush. This will probably dampen some of the exuberance in the market,' National Development Minister Mah Bow Tan told reporters at a door-stop interview yesterday evening.

    More demand side measures could be introduced if necessary, he added.

    Under the Ministry of National Development's record land sales programme, the 8,135 private homes (including executive condos) from the confirmed list sites for H2 is some 2.8 times the supply of 2,925 units from the H1 confirmed list.

    Through the reserve list, MND will offer land for 5,770 private homes in H2, lower than the 7,625 units in H1. Reserve list sites are launched for tender only upon successful application by developers, unlike confirmed list plots which are released according to a prestated schedule regardless of developer interest.

    Nonetheless, the total supply of 13,905 units that can be generated from both confirmed and reserve lists in H2 is also the highest ever that the government has offered.

    DTZ executive director (consulting) Ong Choon Fah said: 'The impact will be quite immediate because the message being sent is clear, that the government will ensure that there is sufficient supply to meet demand.

    'Land bids are likely to moderate at the next tender, which closes next week. And we could also see impact on home sales this weekend. There could be some knee-jerk reaction, and people may start to evaluate and look at the latest sites on offer to see if they can afford to wait a little longer as they have more choices now. However, underlying demand for owner occupation remains strong as HDB upgraders aspire to upgrade to a condo.'

    'As land prices start to moderate, developers will have more flexibility on their pricing strategy,' she added.

    Frasers Centrepoint group CEO Lim Ee Seng told BT that while the 8,135-unit confirmed list supply was much higher than he had expected, it was not totally a surprise given the high land bids at state tenders.

    'One of the reasons our company has not been bidding aggressively at state tenders is a fear that government will jack up supply, and our fear has materialised.'

    Frasers Centrepoint has clinched just one site at state tenders in the past nine months - an EC site in Sengkang.

    MND's H2 2010 land supply programme announcement yesterday evening was almost a fortnight earlier than last year's second half announcement date. Mr Lim welcomed the government's transparency with giving details as early as it could, as that will guide developers in bids at coming tenders.

    For the second half of this year, the government is offering a total of 45 sites comprising 18 confirmed list and 27 reserve list plots. The land parcels consist of 27 residential plots, three commercial sites, another three commercial and residential land parcels, two white sites and 10 hotel sites.

    In addition to 13,905 private homes (including 2,360 executive condo or EC units), the H2 2010 programme can yield 4.3 million sq ft gross floor area of commercial space and 3,750 hotel rooms.

    Twenty-three of the 45 sites are new. The other 22 are being carried over from the H1 slate.

    All five EC sites are on the confirmed list. Most of the residential land parcels in the H2 slate are in the Outside Central Region or in locations in the Rest of Central Region that are close to HDB estates. These sites will 'therefore provide additional supply of more affordable private housing', the Ministry of National Development noted.

    MND has removed the white site at Ophir/Rochor roads that was on the reserve list 'as the development plan for the site is being reviewed'.

    Cushman & Wakefield managing director Donald Han said that this may have to do with all the construction works going on around the site from the Downtown Line but noted that the government has compensated for this by introducing a plum 'white' site opposite International Plaza (above Tanjong Pagar MRT Station) to the confirmed list.

    This will have minimum office and hotel components, although the plot is also envisaged to accommodate 490 residences.

    MND also introduced two sites with minimum office components to the reserve list - a commercial plot next to Paya Lebar MRT Station and a white site beside Jurong East MRT Station - to propel the development of the two locations as major commercial hubs outside the CBD.

    DTZ's Mrs Ong noted, however, that other than the white site at Tanjong Pagar, the Government has not offered any CBD office sites, perhaps suggesting it was adopting a cautious view of the office market.

    CB Richard Ellis executive director Li Hiaw Ho suggested 'the Government should perhaps look into placing more commercial sites in the CBD on the confirmed list in the next six to 12 months to ensure a steady stream of office space for the business and and financial community from 2013 onwards'.

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    May 22, 2010

    Largest land release for private homes

    Govt's move likely to rein in sky-high bids by developers, say experts

    By Joyce Teo & Fiona Chan


    THE Government has moved to meet surging demand for housing by lining up the largest ever release of state land for private homes.

    It has placed 18 residential or residential/commercial sites on the programme for confirmed sale in the second half of the year.

    There will also be 13 sites for residential use on the reserve list. These plots - of which 20 are new and not rolled over previously - could accommodate about 13,905 new homes.

    The plots range from areas in Jurong West to Pasir Ris and include land in mass-market areas like Hougang and Tampines.

    'I hope that with this increased supply, home buyers will be assured that there is ample supply in the market and therefore... there is no need to rush,' said National Development Minister Mah Bow Tan yesterday.

    'So this will probably... dampen some of the exuberance in the market,' he added.

    Ngee Ann Polytechnic real estate lecturer Nicholas Mak said 'home buyers will be spoilt for choice and the competition should moderate mass market home prices'.

    The supply announced yesterday is 32 per cent more than the amount of land introduced in the first half of this year and is sure to put the brakes on developers bidding sky-high prices for sites, say property experts. And that means more reasonable prices for buyers as well.

    'The Government is sending a strong signal to developers that there is no need to bid very high prices. Developers also have a good choice of reserve list sites but they will have to share the responsibility if there is a glut,' said Mr Mak.

    The 18 confirmed list sites include five executive condominium plots. They will go on sale regardless of developers' prior indications of interest.

    They will yield an estimated 8,135 housing units. This will be the highest number of units in any one release since land sales started in 1967.

    The previous record was a release in the second half of the 2007 boom year that could accommodate just 3,000 units.

    The reserve list contains 12 residential sites and one plot for commercial and residential use. These go on sale only if developers signal interest by making an acceptable initial offer.

    Apart from a mixed-use site, the confirmed non-landed residential plots are in mass market spots such as Hougang, Punggol, Woodlands and Tampines. They can yield 265 to 810 units each.

    CBRE Research believes that sites near MRT stations will continue to attract strong interest.

    Mr Mah had said in March this year that the Government will ramp up supply in the second half of the year to give developers more choice.

    His comments came after the Government introduced two rounds of cooling measures, in September last year and again in February.

    Yet demand has remained strong. In the first four months of the year, developers have already sold 6,587 units of new private homes - nearly 45 per cent of the entire sales last year.

    Mass-market home prices have exceeded the 2007 peak levels and look set to rise further with developers bidding hard for sites.

    'Developers afraid of emptying their landbank were bidding aggressively and prices were getting too crazy. Now, the whole system will adjust itself,' said a developer.

    Colliers International investment sales executive director Ho Eng Joo added: 'Many developers are still hungry for land, but the huge confirmed list supply will prevent prices from rising significantly.'

    Jones Lang LaSalle's head of research for South-east Asia, Dr Chua Yang Liang, agreed: 'It looks like they are using the supply approach to cool prices. But the large supply is likely to affect prices only in the longer term.

    'In the short term, demand is still supported by the economic recovery in the region and low interest rate environment.'

    Dr Chua added the pace of demand has slowed in recent weeks, due to uncertainty over the euro zone crisis in Europe.

    'Overall, mass-market home prices have risen. Will this supply bring it back down? I don't think so but it will help check the price growth.'

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    Large GLS does not g'tee price will soften, it depends very much on the econ outlook.
    if the outlook is good, just more $$$$$$$$ goes to the developers

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    Quote Originally Posted by teddybear
    Almost all sites in OCR?
    an indication that OCR prices have risen too much?

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    Quote Originally Posted by maisonjai
    an indication that OCR prices have risen too much?
    govt wana take opportunity to make some $

    if release during recession, very low bid mah...below reserve price somemore

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    Quote Originally Posted by maisonjai
    an indication that OCR prices have risen too much?
    No.

    An indication that the Government has mostly OCR land.

    Especially places of which our in-house pollution expert "Regulators" has lots of opinion.

    If you want to know which places these are, go to the search function above, key in "Regulators" into User Name and "pollution" into Key Word.

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    how can the prices be cooled down when land is sold to developers at record bids?

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    Published May 22, 2010

    Govt bumps up land supply to cool market

    Record 14,405 private homes can be built on land offered this year; move likely to immediately douse sales, and tame prices ahead

    By KALPANA RASHIWALA AND UMA SHANKARI


    THE government yesterday dramatically increased the supply of land for the second half of this year to meet the demand for private homes. And the impact of this strong signal to the market is expected to be immediate, in terms of cooling home sales as well as dampening land bids. Prices are also expected to lose steam.

    A record number of at least 14,405 private homes are expected to be built from land sold this year - comprising an estimated 6,270 units from sites sold in H1 and an 8,135-unit supply from confirmed list sites that will be launched in the second half.

    This surpasses the previous record supply in 1997 when the government sold land for about 8,500 units.

    'I hope that with this increased supply, homebuyers will be assured that there is ample supply in the market and therefore there is no need to rush. This will probably dampen some of the exuberance in the market,' National Development Minister Mah Bow Tan told reporters at a door-stop interview yesterday evening.

    More demand side measures could be introduced if necessary, he added.

    Under the Ministry of National Development's record land sales programme, the 8,135 private homes (including executive condos) from the confirmed list sites for H2 is some 2.8 times the supply of 2,925 units from the H1 confirmed list.

    Through the reserve list, MND will offer land for 5,770 private homes in H2, lower than the 7,625 units in H1. Reserve list sites are launched for tender only upon successful application by developers, unlike confirmed list plots which are released according to a prestated schedule regardless of developer interest.

    Nonetheless, the total supply of 13,905 units that can be generated from both confirmed and reserve lists in H2 is also the highest ever that the government has offered.

    DTZ executive director (consulting) Ong Choon Fah said: 'The impact will be quite immediate because the message being sent is clear, that the government will ensure that there is sufficient supply to meet demand.

    'Land bids are likely to moderate at the next tender, which closes next week. And we could also see impact on home sales this weekend. There could be some knee-jerk reaction, and people may start to evaluate and look at the latest sites on offer to see if they can afford to wait a little longer as they have more choices now. However, underlying demand for owner occupation remains strong as HDB upgraders aspire to upgrade to a condo.'

    'As land prices start to moderate, developers will have more flexibility on their pricing strategy,' she added.

    Frasers Centrepoint group CEO Lim Ee Seng told BT that while the 8,135-unit confirmed list supply was much higher than he had expected, it was not totally a surprise given the high land bids at state tenders.

    'One of the reasons our company has not been bidding aggressively at state tenders is a fear that government will jack up supply, and our fear has materialised.'

    Frasers Centrepoint has clinched just one site at state tenders in the past nine months - an EC site in Sengkang.

    MND's H2 2010 land supply programme announcement yesterday evening was almost a fortnight earlier than last year's second half announcement date. Mr Lim welcomed the government's transparency with giving details as early as it could, as that will guide developers in bids at coming tenders.

    For the second half of this year, the government is offering a total of 45 sites comprising 18 confirmed list and 27 reserve list plots. The land parcels consist of 27 residential plots, three commercial sites, another three commercial and residential land parcels, two white sites and 10 hotel sites.

    In addition to 13,905 private homes (including 2,360 executive condo or EC units), the H2 2010 programme can yield 4.3 million sq ft gross floor area of commercial space and 3,750 hotel rooms.

    Twenty-three of the 45 sites are new. The other 22 are being carried over from the H1 slate.

    All five EC sites are on the confirmed list. Most of the residential land parcels in the H2 slate are in the Outside Central Region or in locations in the Rest of Central Region that are close to HDB estates. These sites will 'therefore provide additional supply of more affordable private housing', the Ministry of National Development noted.

    MND has removed the white site at Ophir/Rochor roads that was on the reserve list 'as the development plan for the site is being reviewed'.

    Cushman & Wakefield managing director Donald Han said that this may have to do with all the construction works going on around the site from the Downtown Line but noted that the government has compensated for this by introducing a plum 'white' site opposite International Plaza (above Tanjong Pagar MRT Station) to the confirmed list.

    This will have minimum office and hotel components, although the plot is also envisaged to accommodate 490 residences.

    MND also introduced two sites with minimum office components to the reserve list - a commercial plot next to Paya Lebar MRT Station and a white site beside Jurong East MRT Station - to propel the development of the two locations as major commercial hubs outside the CBD.

    DTZ's Mrs Ong noted, however, that other than the white site at Tanjong Pagar, the Government has not offered any CBD office sites, perhaps suggesting it was adopting a cautious view of the office market.

    CB Richard Ellis executive director Li Hiaw Ho suggested 'the Government should perhaps look into placing more commercial sites in the CBD on the confirmed list in the next six to 12 months to ensure a steady stream of office space for the business and and financial community from 2013 onwards'.

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    even if developer bot it cheap..will they launch cheap anot?

    to me, govt trying to develop areas like punggol...i dun mind developer pay higher prices for land...afterall, the $ goes into our national reserves....rather den devt buy low and sell high...profit all goes to developer pocket...hope it makes sense...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jlrx
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    An indication that the Government has mostly OCR land.
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    the stretch after Tanglin View has a lot of all empty land. Let's see the tender prices for the plot besides Ascentia Sky & those at Stirling Rd. hopefully more than 700psf<

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    Quote Originally Posted by maisonjai
    the stretch after Tanglin View has a lot of all empty land. Let's see the tender prices for the plot besides Ascentia Sky & those at Stirling Rd. hopefully more than 700psf<
    dun hf to hope...easily 700-750psf...tats the best plot of land other den peck seah

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    Nah. Govt is opportunistic -they have lots of so-called RCR or CCR land. just look at the Marina East area . And many empty and dilapidated tall offices and hotels are also converting to residential in central areas. Reason why they're selling the OCR land in Pasir Ris and Tampines is becos OCR land is HOT and there is great demand from developers. There are some RCR land sitting on the Reserve List for years and no developer is interested in bidding, while some ulu land in Chestnut was actually triggered. Developers look for the best potential and not necessarily RCR or CCR.

    In short, govt is just waiting for the best time to sell their CCR land - and obviously looking at today's lacklustre demand, this is not the best time yet. The property developers can keep shouting the foreign investors are snapping up luxury properties, but we all know the luxury market has not fully recovered.

    Quote Originally Posted by jlrx
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    An indication that the Government has mostly OCR land.

    Especially places of which our in-house pollution expert "Regulators" has lots of opinion.

    If you want to know which places these are, go to the search function above, key in "Regulators" into User Name and "pollution" into Key Word.

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    Regulators is the one shouting "Buy D12" and "Buy D15" in every thread? Obviously the air in Balestier is the cleanest in pure and pristine condition

    Singapore's carbon footprint is 40 million tonnes excluding jet fuel and marine bunker pollution. If we include jet fuel aviation and marine pollution, the carbon footprint increase by another 100 million tonnes to 140 million tonnes. In short, those pollution caused by our supercars on the road are rather immaterial. A lot more energy (i.e. emission) is required to power an aeroplane than a car. This 100 million tonnes of carbon emission contributed 72% of the carbon emission in SG. So stay away from areas close to the sea port and air port - if you're so afraid of pollution. In any case, it is small country - the air gets blown everywhere.

    Quote Originally Posted by jlrx
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    An indication that the Government has mostly OCR land.

    Especially places of which our in-house pollution expert "Regulators" has lots of opinion.

    If you want to know which places these are, go to the search function above, key in "Regulators" into User Name and "pollution" into Key Word.

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    i withdraw my buy call in this current market and switch to hold position. i think the only person that still has a buy call would be jlrx aka propertism guru. i think middle of singapore to mid south have the cleanest air. we have jurong island flanking on the west side and pasir gudang petrochemical plant flanking on the north east region. toa payoh in D12 is right smack in the middle of singapore so that has one of the cleanest air in comparison to other parts of singapore.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wild Falcon
    Regulators is the one shouting "Buy D12" and "Buy D15" in every thread? Obviously the air in Balestier is the cleanest in pure and pristine condition

    Singapore's carbon footprint is 40 million tonnes excluding jet fuel and marine bunker pollution. If we include jet fuel aviation and marine pollution, the carbon footprint increase by another 100 million tonnes to 140 million tonnes. In short, those pollution caused by our supercars on the road are rather immaterial. A lot more energy (i.e. emission) is required to power an aeroplane than a car. This 100 million tonnes of carbon emission contributed 72% of the carbon emission in SG. So stay away from areas close to the sea port and air port - if you're so afraid of pollution. In any case, it is small country - the air gets blown everywhere.

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    no big attraction with the sites put up for sale. they are certainly keeping the good stuff.

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    Nah, Marina area has never been considered CCR until they want to sell these places with 99LH and at high price. Smart people will know that they should stick to the traditional CCR than the newly added CCR areas.

    If luxury market has not recovered means there is more value than those that has overshot previous high?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wild Falcon
    Nah. Govt is opportunistic -they have lots of so-called RCR or CCR land. just look at the Marina East area . And many empty and dilapidated tall offices and hotels are also converting to residential in central areas. Reason why they're selling the OCR land in Pasir Ris and Tampines is becos OCR land is HOT and there is great demand from developers. There are some RCR land sitting on the Reserve List for years and no developer is interested in bidding, while some ulu land in Chestnut was actually triggered. Developers look for the best potential and not necessarily RCR or CCR.

    In short, govt is just waiting for the best time to sell their CCR land - and obviously looking at today's lacklustre demand, this is not the best time yet. The property developers can keep shouting the foreign investors are snapping up luxury properties, but we all know the luxury market has not fully recovered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teddybear
    Nah, Marina area has never been considered CCR until they want to sell these places with 99LH and at high price. Smart people will know that they should stick to the traditional CCR than the newly added CCR areas.

    If luxury market has not recovered means there is more value than those that has overshot previous high?
    u obviously vested in only 9,10,11

    many of us also bot into D1,2 and make $...not only u r smart?

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    Nope. It means it may never recover to the previous highs becos the previous high has "overshot" and not supported by fundamentals (yields, runway for capital gains) other than "foreign Santa Claus is coming to town becos of IR". I always believe it's better to invest in a place with real solid local demand. Now, agents are scratching their heads about "what's the next buzz word?". CCR can expand. Some of the "traditional" CCRs are losing their lustre - e.g. Novena with the hospital surroundings and cluttered environment. The only constant is change.

    Quote Originally Posted by teddybear
    Nah, Marina area has never been considered CCR until they want to sell these places with 99LH and at high price. Smart people will know that they should stick to the traditional CCR than the newly added CCR areas.

    If luxury market has not recovered means there is more value than those that has overshot previous high?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wild Falcon
    The property developers can keep shouting the foreign investors are snapping up luxury properties, but we all know the luxury market has not fully recovered.
    Quote Originally Posted by Regulators
    i withdraw my buy call in this current market and switch to hold position. i think the only person that still has a buy call would be jlrx aka propertism guru.
    Quote Originally Posted by teddybear
    Nah, Marina area has never been considered CCR until they want to sell these places with 99LH and at high price. Smart people will know that they should stick to the traditional CCR than the newly added CCR areas.

    If luxury market has not recovered means there is more value than those that has overshot previous high?
    Quote Originally Posted by Wild Falcon
    Nope. It means it may never recover to the previous highs becos the previous high has "overshot" and not supported by fundamentals (yields, runway for capital gains) other than "foreign Santa Claus is coming to town becos of IR". I always believe it's better to invest in a place with real solid local demand. Now, agents are scratching their heads about "what's the next buzz word?". CCR can expand. Some of the "traditional" CCRs are losing their lustre - e.g. Novena with the hospital surroundings and cluttered environment. The only constant is change.
    Looking at the above posts from some very seasoned property investors, one conclusion is obvious - the property market is unpredictable.

    That's why it's better to have a finger in every pie, because you never know which region or sector is going to take off next.

    Other than "change", the other constant is "PROPERTISM".

    PROPERTISM Rule No. 1 - Property prices always go up in the long term hence properties should only be bought and not sold.

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    PROPERTISM Rule No. 1 - Property prices always go up in the long term hence properties should only be bought and not sold.[/quote]

    Like that ah...then when does one "take profit"? Or is selling to take profit the perogative of the beneficiary in our will after we pass on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sfwoo
    PROPERTISM Rule No. 1 - Property prices always go up in the long term hence properties should only be bought and not sold.
    Like that ah...then when does one "take profit"? Or is selling to take profit the perogative of the beneficiary in our will after we pass on?[/QUOTE]


    We pass the wealth (property) over to the next generation, until someone enbloc it. But make sure you buy another property to replace.

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    unlock some ppty when u r fully retired lor...must eat the fruits, if not turn stale. all pass down to descendents...

    i am sure they will sell the moment they got the keys

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