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    http://www.cnbc.com/id/100401701

    Interest Rates Will Spike This Year: Soros

    There will be a dramatic rise in interest rates as soon as there are clear signs the U.S. economy is picking up, billionaire financier George Soros told CNBC.

    Soros said that the U.S. needs to reestablish growth to help shrink its debt pile and that the Federal Reserve's policy of buying U.S. debt, is the right one since it doesn't add to the net amount of debt outstanding. "It's about as close to a free lunch as you can get," he said.

    But there is a risk, Soros warned, "Once the economy gets going, then interest rates are going to take a big leap."

    Billionaire investor George Soros, provides perspective on Europe's banking crisis, U.S. debt and when he expects to see a spike in interest rates, with CNBC's Maria Bartiromo. The euro is transforming the European Union into something very different, he says.
    He called it a "delicate two-phase maneuver," where first the Fed throws more money at the economy and then as the economy picks up the money needs to be taken back out. But as money comes out of the economy, it could arrest the recovery.

    Soros expects interest rates to jump this year as soon as there are clear signs the economy is on the mend.

    "It may already have begun," Soros said of the move in rates. "I think it's most likely to happen this year. Once you're past the uncertainty about the budget and investment decisions are made I think you'll see it."

    (Read More: Budget Deficit Not Our Only Deficit: Larry Summers)

    Soros also pushed back against austerity as a way to deal with excessive debt levels in developed economies. If the economy is falling, then the debt burden is actually increasing, he said.

    Soros also warned that the political situation in Europe could get worse over the next two years. "I don't think that Europe can live politically with a situation where there's a center — namely Germany — and countries like Italy and Spain are condemned to perpetual inferiority," he warned.

    (Read More: Italy Has Regained Respect: Mario Monti)

    He also said there could be a potential currency war brewing. "The rest of the world follows a different recipe from the Germans," Soros said. "Germans believe in austerity and the rest of the world believes in quantitative easing, throwing more and more money at the crisis. And actually that works, in the sense that it avoids a depression."

    Soros said that Japan has now switched to more quantitative easing, which is bringing down the value of the yen, whereas the euro is more likely to appreciate since the Eurozone doesn't engage in quantitative easing, Soros said.

    "That could push Germany into a potential recession or a slowdown," he said.

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    So Soro is expecting a fast recovery for US?

    It is more likely to be a slow recovery for US and interest rate will be creeping up instead of spiking up.

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    eh nothing new lah. US Fed has already stated very clearly that once unemployment hits 6-6.5%, interest rates will be calibrated.

    until then, it's status quo. it took 4 QEs (or is it 3?) and 5 years to get it from 9.8% down to 7.8%. with EU still in the doldrums, how long will the recovery take? 1 year - dang gu gu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosy
    So Soro is expecting a fast recovery for US?

    It is more likely to be a slow recovery for US and interest rate will be creeping up instead of spiking up.

    If Asian countries such as China and Singapore can create a false boom by encouraging speculation in the property sector, what makes us think that the US will not do the same thing?

    With the world's lowest "House Price to Income ratio" of 2.87 years income to buy a home, vs Singapore's 16.60, it wouldn't take a lot of pushing to achieve that.

    http://www.numbeo.com/property-inves...by_country.jsp
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    Quote Originally Posted by sgbuyer
    If Asian countries such as China and Singapore can create a false boom by encouraging speculation in the property sector, what makes us think that the US will not do the same thing?
    What do you really mean? singapore?

    Can you please substantiate? Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgbuyer
    If Asian countries such as China and Singapore can create a false boom by encouraging speculation in the property sector, what makes us think that the US will not do the same thing?
    what is this false boom???!!

    china GDP data is suspect, as widely acknowledged in the finance industry. singapore is not experiencing a boom and GDP growth is not tied singularly to property sector.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eng81157
    what is this false boom???!!

    china GDP data is suspect, as widely acknowledged in the finance industry. singapore is not experiencing a boom and GDP growth is not tied singularly to property sector.

    Property sector drives the bulk of the Singapore economy.

    Real estate brokers are dependent on the property sector. The construction industry is dependent on the property sector. From MNC construction firms to your Phua Chu Kang contractors. The construction sector drives the building material industries - all those iron bars, iron importers, freight companies, etc.

    A large part of the banking sector lends to individuals to buy their homes, companies to build their offices, factories. The insurance companies insure homes, offices and factories and the workers that work in the property and related industries.

    The service sector (recruitment and HR companies, cleaning companies, security companies) services the construction companies, the property management, the mechanical and electrical engineer companies, the architect firms. The advertising industries, e.g. SPH and MediaCorp, and advertising companies derives a very major part of their income from property advertisements.

    The retail sector sells cars to property brokers, insurance agents, contractors, and sell lorries, pickup, cranes, etc, to construction companies. The supermarkets, shops, markets, sell food and everyday goods to people working in all the above industries. The healthcare industry services all the people mentioned.

    The property sector also drives the property sector and other sectors. Everyone that worked for the property sectors, e.g. real estate brokers, are often speculators themselves. All the people who work in the retail sectors themselves also need to buy their own property, renovate their home, or find a place to rent, driving the property sector, the banking sector

    The loop goes on and on and on.... and on.

    All this is sustainable as long as foreigners continue to put money into Singapore and banks can then lend out the money to speculators at 1%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sgbuyer
    Property sector drives the bulk of the Singapore economy.

    Real estate brokers are dependent on the property sector. The construction industry is dependent on the property sector. From MNC construction firms to your Phua Chu Kang contractors. The construction sector drives the building material industries - all those iron bars, iron importers, freight companies, etc.

    A large part of the banking sector lends to individuals to buy their homes, companies to build their offices, factories. The insurance companies insure homes, offices and factories and the workers that work in the property and related industries.

    The service sector (recruitment and HR companies, cleaning companies, security companies) services the construction companies, the property management, the mechanical and electrical engineer companies, the architect firms. The advertising industries, e.g. SPH and MediaCorp, and advertising companies derives a very major part of their income from property advertisements.

    The retail sector sells cars to property brokers, insurance agents, contractors, and sell lorries, pickup, cranes, etc, to construction companies. The supermarkets, shops, markets, sell food and everyday goods to people working in all the above industries. The healthcare industry services all the people mentioned.

    The property sector also drives the property sector and other sectors. Everyone that worked for the property sectors, e.g. real estate brokers, are often speculators themselves. All the people who work in the retail sectors themselves also need to buy their own property or find a place to rent, driving the property sector.

    The loop goes on and on and on.... and on.
    This guy sgbuyer is just another bear in channelnewsasia forum that has come to this forum. He is pro Worker Party. Anything about PAP he just whack them down. Be careful he is another basically or economist.

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    I should have ignored this thread.

    Never too late though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgbuyer
    Property sector drives the bulk of the Singapore economy.

    Real estate brokers are dependent on the property sector. The construction industry is dependent on the property sector. From MNC construction firms to your Phua Chu Kang contractors. The construction sector drives the building material industries - all those iron bars, iron importers, freight companies, etc.

    A large part of the banking sector lends to individuals to buy their homes, companies to build their offices, factories. The insurance companies insure homes, offices and factories and the workers that work in the property and related industries.

    The service sector (recruitment and HR companies, cleaning companies, security companies) services the construction companies, the property management, the mechanical and electrical engineer companies, the architect firms. The advertising industries, e.g. SPH and MediaCorp, and advertising companies derives a very major part of their income from property advertisements.

    The retail sector sells cars to property brokers, insurance agents, contractors, and sell lorries, pickup, cranes, etc, to construction companies. The supermarkets, shops, markets, sell food and everyday goods to people working in all the above industries. The healthcare industry services all the people mentioned.

    The property sector also drives the property sector and other sectors. Everyone that worked for the property sectors, e.g. real estate brokers, are often speculators themselves. All the people who work in the retail sectors themselves also need to buy their own property or find a place to rent, driving the property sector.

    The loop goes on and on and on.... and on.

    A large percentage of business loans in Singapore is to property sector, and to construction services and suppliers, and to businesses buying properties. Housing loans are at record high due to low interest rates.


    Private Debt as a Percentage of GDP

    Private debt as a percentage of Gross Domestic Product is an important economic indicator of a country's future financial stability. This is because it shows what percentage of the Gross Domestic Product is paid for with borrowed money.


    GDP Definition

    Gross Domestic Product is the total value of all the goods and services produced in a country. This means that it is a good rough indicator of economic strength, particularly in relation to previous years. If people are working, doing services for money and producing things, then the GDP will rise and the economy is doing well.


    Private Debt

    Private debt is debt such as credit cards, home loans, auto loans, and any other debt owed by individuals and businesses, who borrow to fuel their growth.


    Implications

    When private debt as a percentage of GDP is large, this means that the GDP is effectively growing because of that private debt--goods and services are being bought by borrowing money rather than being bought with earned money. The larger the ratio, the larger the problem--even people who do not owe any money are still connected to it because the people buying from them and/or employing them are doing so on borrowed money.

    What this means is that GDP can grow artificially fast when credit conditions are good and interest rates are low. However, it can do the converse when interest rates rise again because a large portion of private debt means that the entire GDP relies on peoples' access to this credit.

    In Singapore, GDP is propped up by massive private debt such as mortgages and business loans from easy credit and low interest rates. But even with the massive private debt, Singapore's real GDP is in recession, exports have plunged and business is poor. Singapore is increasingly uncompetitive with the high costs and high SGD. Many highly leveraged businesses and people are stuck. Interest rates hike could trigger numerous defaults and bankrupcies, Singapore could sink into deeper recession and the property bubble could burst.


    Bank issued housing loans grew $3 billion in one month from Oct to Nov, private debt up to 165% of GDP.

    Total bank loans in November 2012 = $481.7 billion (165% of GDP)

    Business loans = $277 billion (94.9% of GDP)

    Consumer loans = $204.8 billion (70.1% of GDP)

    Housing loans = $150.3 billion (51.5% of GDP) , this amount excludes cpf issued housing loans for HDB, if included the total housing loans in s'pore could be over 100% of GDP.


    http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stori...245279/1/.html

    Total bank lending in S'pore up 15.9% in Nov: MAS

    Channel News Asia
    By Thomas Cho | Posted: 31 December 2012 1334 hrs


    SINGAPORE: Total bank lending in Singapore continued to grow in November, up 15.9 per cent from a year ago.

    The latest Monetary Authority of Singapore data showed loans and advances by domestic banking units amounted to S$481.74 billion in November. This was about 0.5 per cent higher than the S$479.42 billion in October.

    Loans to businesses in November contracted slightly from S$278.1 billion in October to S$277 billion. This was mainly due to the drop in loans to financial institutions from S$65.1 billion in October to S$62.8 billion in November.

    Meanwhile, total consumer loans rose 1.7 per cent to S$204.8 billion on a month-on-month basis.

    Housing loans to consumers came in two per cent higher at S$150.3 billion in November. Credit card loans remained stable at about S$8.7 billion.

    Meanwhile, loans and advances in Asian currency units or other currencies apart from the Singapore dollar was S$385.1 billion in November, up from S$381.4 billion a month before.

    -CNA/ac

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    Everyone knows interest rates WILL go up. Its a matter of when. This is nothing new anyway.
    When you have eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth

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    Quote Originally Posted by star
    This guy sgbuyer is just another bear in channelnewsasia forum that has come to this forum. He is pro Worker Party. Anything about PAP he just whack them down. Be careful he is another basically or economist.
    Not really... I believe he is actually correct. We are still a very export-based economy... But the problem is who is buying? Like China, after USA and Europe goes into crisis, they are still able to obtain growth through the booming property sector until last year when their CM totally freeze the property sector then the GDP went down.

    The chances of interest rate going up is still very high.. After years of low interest environment and massive QE, a lot of people or country is highly debt to the banks. It is really to the benefit of the bank that interest rate goes up now as it will greatly increase their earning. And who control the interest rate? US government? Obama? Republican? It is the FED.. And who own FED? You go and check yourself ba..

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgbuyer
    Property sector drives the bulk of the Singapore economy.

    Real estate brokers are dependent on the property sector. The construction industry is dependent on the property sector. From MNC construction firms to your Phua Chu Kang contractors. The construction sector drives the building material industries - all those iron bars, iron importers, freight companies, etc.

    A large part of the banking sector lends to individuals to buy their homes, companies to build their offices, factories. The insurance companies insure homes, offices and factories and the workers that work in the property and related industries.

    The service sector (recruitment and HR companies, cleaning companies, security companies) services the construction companies, the property management, the mechanical and electrical engineer companies, the architect firms. The advertising industries, e.g. SPH and MediaCorp, and advertising companies derives a very major part of their income from property advertisements.

    The retail sector sells cars to property brokers, insurance agents, contractors, and sell lorries, pickup, cranes, etc, to construction companies. The supermarkets, shops, markets, sell food and everyday goods to people working in all the above industries. The healthcare industry services all the people mentioned.

    The property sector also drives the property sector and other sectors. Everyone that worked for the property sectors, e.g. real estate brokers, are often speculators themselves. All the people who work in the retail sectors themselves also need to buy their own property or find a place to rent, driving the property sector.

    The loop goes on and on and on.... and on.
    So does my son pocket money. It pays for candy shop owners, that in turn it pays for his wife hermes bag. I think property multiplier effect is significant, but its not absolute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by indomie
    So does my son pocket money. It pays for candy shop owners, that in turn it pays for his wife hermes bag. I think property multiplier effect is significant, but its not absolute.
    Wrong...

    It pays for candy shop.. but the candy shop have to pay rental... the owner of the property have to pay the developer.. the developer have to pay is vendor... the developer and vendor may not have money have to borrow from the bank. the bank will have to employ people to handle all this... and the cycle goes on and on and on...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RCT
    Wrong...

    It pays for candy shop.. but the candy shop have to pay rental... the owner of the property have to pay the developer.. the developer have to pay is vendor... the developer and vendor may not have money have to borrow from the bank. the bank will have to employ people to handle all this... and the cycle goes on and on and on...
    Good response..... We can peg anything as we see fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by indomie
    Good response..... We can peg anything as we see fit.
    Just giving a broader view. But the risk of interest rate going up is still there but I don't really think it will have a lot of effect on the resale but maybe the developer have to come out with more discount to attract more buyers to enter.. Of course that will really depend on the finance health of owners which I really have no clue at all...

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    Quote Originally Posted by star
    This guy sgbuyer is just another bear in channelnewsasia forum that has come to this forum. He is pro Worker Party. Anything about PAP he just whack them down. Be careful he is another basically or economist.
    That's very scary!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by sgbuyer
    Property sector drives the bulk of the Singapore economy.

    Real estate brokers are dependent on the property sector. The construction industry is dependent on the property sector. From MNC construction firms to your Phua Chu Kang contractors. The construction sector drives the building material industries - all those iron bars, iron importers, freight companies, etc.

    A large part of the banking sector lends to individuals to buy their homes, companies to build their offices, factories. The insurance companies insure homes, offices and factories and the workers that work in the property and related industries.

    The service sector (recruitment and HR companies, cleaning companies, security companies) services the construction companies, the property management, the mechanical and electrical engineer companies, the architect firms. The advertising industries, e.g. SPH and MediaCorp, and advertising companies derives a very major part of their income from property advertisements.

    The retail sector sells cars to property brokers, insurance agents, contractors, and sell lorries, pickup, cranes, etc, to construction companies. The supermarkets, shops, markets, sell food and everyday goods to people working in all the above industries. The healthcare industry services all the people mentioned.

    The property sector also drives the property sector and other sectors. Everyone that worked for the property sectors, e.g. real estate brokers, are often speculators themselves. All the people who work in the retail sectors themselves also need to buy their own property, renovate their home, or find a place to rent, driving the property sector, the banking sector

    The loop goes on and on and on.... and on.

    All this is sustainable as long as foreigners continue to put money into Singapore and banks can then lend out the money to speculators at 1%.
    this isnt false, it's actual investments. false = cooking up figures

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    Quote Originally Posted by RCT
    Just giving a broader view. But the risk of interest rate going up is still there but I don't really think it will have a lot of effect on the resale but maybe the developer have to come out with more discount to attract more buyers to enter.. Of course that will really depend on the finance health of owners which I really have no clue at all...
    Ur statement reflect a hight level of maturity. Not having a clue is the reason. Why we are here. I respect some people here who are coming here asking for advise. It doesn't surprise me if in the real life they are smart and successful individuals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eng81157
    this isnt false, it's actual investments. false = cooking up figures

    When I say false, I don't mean the figures are cooked up. What I mean is that they are transient.

    For example, the US subprime bubble created a million excess banking and brokerage jobs. They turn out to be sustainable and disappeared shortly.



    Quote Originally Posted by RCT
    The chances of interest rate going up is still very high.. After years of low interest environment and massive QE, a lot of people or country is highly debt to the banks. It is really to the benefit of the bank that interest rate goes up now as it will greatly increase their earning. And who control the interest rate? US government? Obama? Republican? It is the FED.. And who own FED? You go and check yourself ba..
    Interesting, so what you're saying is that the Fed is actually the banker to Singaporean property?
    Last edited by sgbuyer; 25-01-13 at 12:21.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgbuyer
    When I say false, I don't mean the figures are cooked up. What I mean is that they are transient.

    For example, the US subprime bubble created a million excess banking and brokerage jobs. They turn out to be sustainable and disappeared shortly.
    then my advise is - learn to use the correct terms. false is not the same as artificially propped up or transient

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgbuyer
    When I say false, I don't mean the figures are cooked up. What I mean is that they are transient.

    For example, the US subprime bubble created a million excess banking and brokerage jobs. They turn out to be sustainable and disappeared shortly.
    U mean "unsustainable"

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    Interesting, so what you're saying is that the Fed is actually the banker to Singaporean property?[/QUOTE]

    I thought everyone knew this. Indirectly sg rates are tied to US fed rates.
    but frankly economic recovery back to normal levels will be good for everyone especially for people in financial industry.
    Its been a long dry spell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgbuyer
    When I say false, I don't mean the figures are cooked up. What I mean is that they are transient.

    For example, the US subprime bubble created a million excess banking and brokerage jobs. They turn out to be sustainable and disappeared shortly.





    Interesting, so what you're saying is that the Fed is actually the banker to Singaporean property?
    What is one of the factor when it comes to buying property? Low interest rate and high inflation? Money is pump in from overseas... So where all this come from? And u must understand who print money. Government or Bank? Government already lose the war against the banks esp in europe and usa with the bank having the right to print money. Now only have place like china, where government have the right to print money. U think Japan don't know they need to print more money to simulate the economy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RCT
    What is one of the factor when it comes to buying property? Low interest rate and high inflation? Money is pump in from overseas... So where all this come from? And u must understand who print money. Government or Bank? Government already lose the war against the banks esp in europe and usa with the bank having the right to print money. Now only have place like china, where government have the right to print money. U think Japan don't know they need to print more money to simulate the economy?

    Yes, I know that if US interest rate rises, money will flow to the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgbuyer
    Yes, I know that if US interest rate rises, money will flow to the US.
    and that's assuming nobody else raises interest rates, which is highly unlikely

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgbuyer
    Yes, I know that if US interest rate rises, money will flow to the US.
    Not not... The money will go to the bank... Money just go to the next better return sector...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgbuyer
    Property sector drives the bulk of the Singapore economy.

    Real estate brokers are dependent on the property sector. The construction industry is dependent on the property sector. From MNC construction firms to your Phua Chu Kang contractors. The construction sector drives the building material industries - all those iron bars, iron importers, freight companies, etc.

    A large part of the banking sector lends to individuals to buy their homes, companies to build their offices, factories. The insurance companies insure homes, offices and factories and the workers that work in the property and related industries.

    The service sector (recruitment and HR companies, cleaning companies, security companies) services the construction companies, the property management, the mechanical and electrical engineer companies, the architect firms. The advertising industries, e.g. SPH and MediaCorp, and advertising companies derives a very major part of their income from property advertisements.

    The retail sector sells cars to property brokers, insurance agents, contractors, and sell lorries, pickup, cranes, etc, to construction companies. The supermarkets, shops, markets, sell food and everyday goods to people working in all the above industries. The healthcare industry services all the people mentioned.

    The property sector also drives the property sector and other sectors. Everyone that worked for the property sectors, e.g. real estate brokers, are often speculators themselves. All the people who work in the retail sectors themselves also need to buy their own property, renovate their home, or find a place to rent, driving the property sector, the banking sector

    The loop goes on and on and on.... and on.

    All this is sustainable as long as foreigners continue to put money into Singapore and banks can then lend out the money to speculators at 1%.
    So how come the economy went into a dip last year with almost negligible growth when the property market was so hot? Clearly, there is something else more important driving the economy- look at the manufacturing pmi just released for dec and u will know why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgbuyer
    If Asian countries such as China and Singapore can create a false boom by encouraging speculation in the property sector, what makes us think that the US will not do the same thing?

    With the world's lowest "House Price to Income ratio" of 2.87 years income to buy a home, vs Singapore's 16.60, it wouldn't take a lot of pushing to achieve that.

    http://www.numbeo.com/property-inves...by_country.jsp
    actually property boom in asia is everywhere. go look at malaysia, thailand, all property price spike. Not even want to mention cambodia or Myanmar coz they are not open market.

    only place in asia property went south is Vietnam.

    Its not restricted to singapore n China.

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    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...ing-fears.html

    Bank of America issues `bond crash' alert on Fed tightening fears

    The US lender said investors face a treacherous moment as central banks start fretting about inflation and shift gears, threatening a surge in bond yields.

    This happened in 1994 under Federal Reserve chief Alan Greenspan when yields on US 30-year Treasuries jumped 240 basis points over a nine-month span, setting off a “savage reversal of fortune in leveraged areas of fixed income markets”.

    A similar shock this year is “likely” if the US economy continues to gather strength. “The moment we hear the first rhetorical talk of exit strategies by central banks this could turn,” said chief investment strategist, Michael Hartnett. There was already a whiff of this in the most recent Fed minutes.
    “The period of Maximum Liquidity is close to an end. Yes, the Japanese reflation is gaining steam in 2013 but we regard this as the last of the great reflations. The big picture is a transition from deflation to normal growth and rates,” he said.

    The 1994 bond shock - and seared in the memories of bond-holders - ricocheted through global markets. It bankrupted Orange Country, California, which was caught flat-footed with large bond positions. It set off the Tequila Crisis in Mexico as the cost of rolling over `tesobonos’ linked to the US dollar suddenly jumped.

    Most emerging markets now raise debt in their own currency but the effect of a worldwide tightening cycle could expose a host of problems. “Frontier markets are attracting tremoundous capital inflows and this new carry trade could reverse quite violently. The risk of local bubbles bursting is high,” said Mr Hartnett.

    Bank of America said the “Great Rotation” under way from bonds into equities closely tracks the pattern of 1994, with bank stocks leading the way.
    Over the past seven years US investors have pulled $600bn from US equity funds and poured $800bn instead into bond funds. This process is going into reverse. Equity funds have drawn $35bn over the last 13 trading days alone, creating the risk of an unstable “melt-up” in stocks over coming months.
    The Bank for International Settlements has issued an alert on the high-yield `junk’ bonds and mortgage debt, currently trading at record lows. The Swiss-based watchdog said parts of the credit market credit are “highly valued in a historical context relative to indicators of their riskiness.”

    The European Central Bank’s Mario Draghi warned earlier this month that leveraged buyouts and private equtiy deals are becoming frothy again.
    Wall Street’s veteran technical analyst Louise Yamada said a whole generation of small investors has been lured into bonds since the stock market crash in 2008 in the belief that is a safe strore of wealth, seemingly unaware of the risk once inflation returns. “I am quite concerned. It’s distrubing to see a lot of retirees who got stuck at the top of the stock market, now got stuck at the top of the bond market,” she said.
    She says the world may be at a turning point comparable to 1946 when deflation was defeated and the last bear market in bonds began, though it is likely to be a slow process. She advises people to switch into shorter term maturities, citing a “bottoming process in rates rates, which means a topping process in price”.

    The great question is whether the world economy really is at the start of a fresh cycle of growth, or whether the roaring asset rally of the last few months is another false dawn driven by central bank liquidity that is failing to gain economic traction.

    The International Monetary Fund’s said this week that the world economy is not yet out of the woods. “It is clear that financial markets are ahead of the real economy. The question is whether they are too much ahead or not, whether we are seeing a bubble,” said chief economist Olivier Blanchard.
    Albert Edwards from Societe Generale said the bullish mood has returned to the “heights of optimism last seen in mid-2007” even though the global and US profit cycles have both peaked, and some shipping indicators point to a further economic relapse.

    Mr Edwards said the markets will be caught out yet again as the West slides deeper into into the same deflationary trap as Japan and bond yields fall to historic lows.

    Investors will have to wait a little longer for a “once in a life-time” chance to buy stocks dirt cheap, he said.

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