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mcmlxxvi
21-11-11, 13:59
Recently some Minister talk about quality of life being maintained and in fact improved due to smaller family size. So each person actually enjoy more living space as opposed to older times bigger flat but more people cramped in it. So now we need a new space indicator? Per square feet per person? PSFPP? How much PSFPP do you currently enjoy?

TKT
21-11-11, 23:48
These days with the ridiculously huge baywindows, huge balcony, huge planter, huge aircond ledge, huge bomb shelter...

and ridiculously small bedrooms, small living, small dining, small kitchen...

what kind of improved quality of life tokking about? :doh:

Maybe for young couples in love, is OK... add 1 or 2 kids, its horrible! :hell-hath-no-fury:

kane
21-11-11, 23:49
psfpp nett of planter, and air con ledge would be a refined figure.

azeoprop
21-11-11, 23:56
Then those HDB executive flats and jumbo flats = extreme luxury? :rolleyes: Their sizes range from 130sqm to over 200sqm.

kane
22-11-11, 00:06
those 150sqm quite comfortable and luxurious in terms of space.

mcmlxxvi
22-11-11, 09:39
Then those HDB executive flats and jumbo flats = extreme luxury? :rolleyes: Their sizes range from 130sqm to over 200sqm.
Yes but if 10pax stay in it then psfpp is only 20sqm

dmonddd
22-11-11, 09:41
I see this as critical. This is highly correlated to level of stress/sanity

if one is staying within 4 walls without much interaction or nice landscape, one will be under stress

rattydrama
22-11-11, 09:42
Then those HDB executive flats and jumbo flats = extreme luxury? :rolleyes: Their sizes range from 130sqm to over 200sqm.

Big doesnt mean good n luxurious... cleaning is a nightmare...

buttercarp
22-11-11, 09:49
Must factor in maid as well?
What about dog, especially if got big dog?

mcmlxxvi
22-11-11, 09:55
Must factor in maid as well?
What about dog, especially if got big dog?
Yes if you treat both as family members ... ;-)

hyenergix
22-11-11, 23:52
HDB has been building blocks that are very close together. Actual common spaces actually shrunk by a lot. It has also been cutting costs by not building or upgrading enough parking lots. This clearly points to lack of coordination between HDB and LTA on vehicular population planning and catering to the needs of the residents.

gn108
23-11-11, 09:08
Bro, how much more they make by building more densely.
Charge you for higher land cost, construction cost and squeeze more units. More people per sq m means more GST/tax can be collected.

As for cars/car parks - you want to drive? Pay for COE/find your own car-park lot. Else I fine you. ERP also earn. Either way revenue is earned.




HDB has been building blocks that are very close together. Actual common spaces actually shrunk by a lot. It has also been cutting costs by not building or upgrading enough parking lots. This clearly points to lack of coordination between HDB and LTA on vehicular population planning and catering to the needs of the residents.

devilplate
23-11-11, 09:16
HDB has been building blocks that are very close together. Actual common spaces actually shrunk by a lot. It has also been cutting costs by not building or upgrading enough parking lots. This clearly points to lack of coordination between HDB and LTA on vehicular population planning and catering to the needs of the residents.

HDB building spaces r further apart den condos!!! whahahha

landed also mostly separated by a small lane......haha

buy bungalow wif big big land lor.....hehe

they purposely build less carparks la to discourage ppl to buy car.......population goto keep growing but cars cant afford to grow as much

buttercarp
23-11-11, 10:06
From the poll, as of now, looks like most people who come to this forum are living in luxury:D !

mcmlxxvi
23-11-11, 10:31
From the poll, as of now, looks like most people who come to this forum are living in luxury:D !
Ya either that or they mistook for the size of entire place lol...

devilplate
23-11-11, 10:54
how come so big!!! i fall into the dog house category!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG!!!!!!!!!!!

ops....i tot per sqm.....LOL

buttercarp
23-11-11, 10:59
Actually how come the 101 to 200 sq ft per person is in the "average" category?

So if there are 4 members in a family, that works out to be 101 x 4 = 404 sq feet for the whole house.
Hmmmm.... isn't that an MM?
Isn't that a bit squeezy?

devilplate
23-11-11, 11:02
Actually how come the 101 to 200 sq ft per person is in the "average" category?

So if there are 4 members in a family, that works out to be 101 x 4 = 404 sq feet for the whole house.
Hmmmm.... isn't that an MM?
Isn't that a bit squeezy?

ya lor....tats y i tot its in sqm.....den become seriously too big.....LOL

TS shd adjust the poll options

average shd be 4pax in a 1000sqft 4rm flat? work out to be 250sqft ppax

buttercarp
23-11-11, 11:06
ya lor....tats y i tot its in sqm.....den become seriously too big.....LOL

TS shd adjust the poll options

average shd be 4pax in a 1000sqft 4rm flat? work out to be 250sqft ppax

PSFPP = per square feet per person, right, TS ?

Hahaha devilplate if square metre, then this poll CMI in singapore.

mcmlxxvi
23-11-11, 11:08
ya lor....tats y i tot its in sqm.....den become seriously too big.....LOL

TS shd adjust the poll options

average shd be 4pax in a 1000sqft 4rm flat? work out to be 250sqft ppax
Woops! Needs rework :-p

august
23-11-11, 12:22
if the unit size is 1500 sqft and just 4 person/pets is already 375 psfpp.
1500 sqft Cannot really say is luxurious hehe.

buttercarp
23-11-11, 12:29
if the unit size is 1500 sqft and just 4 person/pets is already 375 psfpp.
1500 sqft Cannot really say is luxurious hehe.

Agree with you.
That's about the size of EA.
That should be under "comfortable" category.

For me, luxurious is > 1000 sq feet per person.