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mcmlxxvi
12-12-12, 17:56
from SBR

Ghost town alert: Vacant homes up 32% to 16,877

It will get worse in two years.

According to Savills, with more homes completed over the past year, the market has seen a signii cant rise in vacant units islandwide. From the trough in Q1/2011, the number of vacant units has increased by 32% from 12,740 to 16,877 units in Q3/2012, pushing the vacancy rate up from 4.9% to 6.1% over the same period. As of Q3 this year, the number of vacant condos stands at 14,198 units and vacant houses at 2,679 units.

The vacancy rate in the Central region was 7.9% in Q3/2012, above the five-year average of 7.5%. Similarly, the vacancy rates in the eastern and western regions of Singapore were 4.5% and 4.0% in Q3, higher than the 3.5% and 3.6% five-year averages respectively.

The vacancy rate increases are in tandem with a surge in condo completions in these areas. Some major completions over the past year include Caspian (712 units) and Mi Casa (457 units) in the west; and Double Bay Residences (646 units), Waterfront Waves (405 units) and Optima (297 units) in the east. The completions in the Central region include Reflections (1,129 units), Floridian (336 units), The Trizon (289 units), Parvis (248 units), Viva (235units) and The Wharf (186 units).

The number of vacant units is set to increase in the months ahead as an avalanche of new homes will be completed within the next two years. According to URA data, 91,869 new homes will be released to the market in the next i ve years, more than half of which have been sold. The growing supply of new homes poses a significant risk to investors who have bought private homes for rental investment, particularly if interest rates should rise.

Although it has been reported that many new homes were bought for owner occupation, the emergence of shadow spaces when owners relocate into their new premises may prove to be an additional challenge for both the leasing and sales markets. If demand from population growth does not rise in tandem and interest rates start to rise, a signii cant rental correction cannot be discounted. The likelihood of an interest-rate spike is, however, small for the moment.

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roly8
12-12-12, 18:33
read from another thread that the condo can be easily filled for the next 10-20 years:o

phantom_opera
12-12-12, 18:47
This seems to be consistent with rental going down or flat in October as well as forumers comment about empty units

leesg123
12-12-12, 19:25
This seems to be consistent with rental going down or flat in October as well as forumers comment about empty units
Owners rather leave it empty then lowet rent. Owner can afford to hold.

ikan bilis
12-12-12, 19:34
aiya... mai kia...


up by 30+%, not vacancy rate at 30+%... and,
hdb whole flat rental so tight like what... condo rental sure got good support 1... :cheers4:

4wheels
12-12-12, 20:13
Owners rather leave it empty then lowet rent. Owner can afford to hold.

there will be owner who lower the rent to keep it occupies.

wind30
12-12-12, 20:37
Owners rather leave it empty then lowet rent. Owner can afford to hold.


why leave it empty? As long as the rental still bring in some net income, most people will rent out rather than leave it empty.

wt_know
12-12-12, 20:40
ghost town?
this report says 2013 property might climb another 10%




Private property prices set to keep rising in 2013: Report

Published on Dec 12, 2012

By Esther Teo, Property Reporter


SHARPLY rising land costs, strong developer balance sheets and low interest rates should all combine to make 2013 another halcyon year for the property industry, an expert said.

Overall private home prices are likely to keep climbing on the back of rising land costs, increasing by up to 10 per cent next year, Savills Singapore research head Alan Cheong said in a report released yesterday.

Non-landed mass market homes are expected to see the steepest rise of 10 to 15 per cent, while the luxury market may also enjoy a 3 to 5 per cent price gain, surpassing its previous peak in 2007.

This is because astute buyers will continue to seek good buys in the luxury segment, as prices here are still lower than in Hong Kong, Mr Cheong added.

The property market has enjoyed a banner year, with a record-breaking 19,792 new homes sold in the first 10 months of the year, surpassing the previous high of 16,292 for the whole of 2010.

Executive condominiums (ECs) have also enjoyed a spectacular run, with more than 4,000 units expected to be sold by the end of the year - another record.

Only 3,935 EC units were sold in 2010 and last year combined.

"Due to a significant run-up in private condo prices, ECs will remain an attractive long-term investment asset, with demand probably surpassing that of 2012," the report noted.

But tiny shoebox homes of 500 sq ft or less seem to have fallen out of favour with home buyers.

The proportion of shoebox homes sold, out of all new condo sales, has fallen from a three-year peak of 21 per cent in the third quarter of last year to a low of just 7 per cent in the fourth quarter of this year.

This is also well down from the three-year average of 14 per cent, Savills' noted.

"The downtrend could be due to fewer shoebox units being built. There has also been an increase in demand for larger-sized units in tandem with the growth in wealth here," the report said.

But the overall property market remains resilient and now has "too strong a momentum to stop", Mr Cheong added.

Quantitative easing in the United States should see liquidity flowing into Asian economies like Singapore in search of a safe haven and currency appreciation.

Coupled with rock-bottom interest rates that are likely to remain low next year, some fresh external demand could be anticipated, he said.

However, this may be offset by local buying fatigue from the many new launches over the past years and increasing home completions.

Barring further property measures, total primary sales may hover between 16,000 and 18,000 units next year, less than this year's likely record of 23,000 to 24,000 units, the report noted.

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phantom_opera
12-12-12, 20:56
need another 1-2m of falling rental to confirm the trend .... falling rental may not automatically translate the lower resale prices

proud owner
12-12-12, 21:05
ghost town?
this report says 2013 property might climb another 10%

go to emerald hill ... there are 2 condos there ... almost empty ...for 1 over years ...

probably only a few units occupied ..

i am not sure if they were sold and couldnt find tenants ... or not sold at all ...

1 of them is 111 Emerald hill

hyenergix
12-12-12, 21:09
go to emerald hill ... there are 2 condos there ... almost empty ...for 1 over years ...

probably only a few units occupied ..

i am not sure if they were sold and couldnt find tenants ... or not sold at all ...

1 of them is 111 Emerald hill

3 bedders n above? I feel tt they r at highest risk.

proud owner
12-12-12, 21:11
3 bedders n above? I feel tt they r at highest risk.


when i was back in spore early this yr ... Napier 8 ... ghost condo ?

hardly occupied ...

they can consider renting to Gleneagles .... who has shortage of beds :tongue3:

bakasa2002
12-12-12, 21:13
go to emerald hill ... there are 2 condos there ... almost empty ...for 1 over years ...

probably only a few units occupied ..

i am not sure if they were sold and couldnt find tenants ... or not sold at all ...

1 of them is 111 Emerald hill

Taking a tour at Reflections and looking at the empty unit is quite scary ...:tongue3:

proud owner
12-12-12, 21:16
Taking a tour at Reflections and looking at the empty unit is quite scary ...:tongue3:


i was told quite a few tenants from Carribean managed to secure a rental at Reflections at the same price ... with MUCH better view ..


any truth ?

hyenergix
12-12-12, 21:16
when i was back in spore early this yr ... Napier 8 ... ghost condo ?

hardly occupied ...

they can consider renting to Gleneagles .... who has shortage of beds :tongue3:

Mostly 3-4 bedders for this condo. 1-2 bedders should be safer for the next few years.

indomie
12-12-12, 21:21
Taking a tour at Reflections and looking at the empty unit is quite scary ...:tongue3:
Its hardly surprising, people now are investing in property for the reason of wealth preservation and not based on yield. They are happy just to have a portfolio of properties. They may sell to another buyer that may also leave it empty. Its the new currency for the wealthy now.

Ringo33
12-12-12, 21:21
go to emerald hill ... there are 2 condos there ... almost empty ...for 1 over years ...

probably only a few units occupied ..

i am not sure if they were sold and couldnt find tenants ... or not sold at all ...

1 of them is 111 Emerald hill

there is one development there which is not selling very well. they tried to seek URA to allow them to rent out vacant units but rejected.

leesg123
12-12-12, 21:58
why leave it empty? As long as the rental still bring in some net income, most people will rent out rather than leave it empty.
Need to think long term. Rent out cheap, tenant usually problematic type, end up the unit will be rotten when tenancy ends, need to plough into renovation to restore. So not worth to lower rent just to rent out. so sometimes more worth Not to rent out.

DKSG
12-12-12, 22:00
This trend will continue for a while.
People may not be aware that with the subdued interest rates for sooooo loooong, people are willing to accept lower yield on their investments.

Put it this way, even if e units are left empty and property prices up 10% as announced today for 2013, it is better to hold empty units and pay 1% interest to gain 10% cap gains, then to leave money in the bank for 0.x% interest.

DKSG

DC33_2008
12-12-12, 22:02
Let's see what Bernarke says tonight. :D
This trend will continue for a while.
People may not be aware that with the subdued interest rates for sooooo loooong, people are willing to accept lower yield on their investments.

Put it this way, even if e units are left empty and property prices up 10% as announced today for 2013, it is better to hold empty units and pay 1% interest to gain 10% cap gains, then to leave money in the bank for 0.x% interest.

DKSG

hyenergix
12-12-12, 22:03
China has many empty units for several years. Going forward houses become a store of value.

leesg123
12-12-12, 22:21
China has many empty units for several years. Going forward houses become a store of value.
Truly a hard asset. Vs share (just numbers)

wt_know
12-12-12, 22:24
just checked propertyguru
subsales $5.5M to $6.5M
rental $12k to $13k per month
i guess only top atas FT can afford the rent ...



go to emerald hill ... there are 2 condos there ... almost empty ...for 1 over years ...

probably only a few units occupied ..

i am not sure if they were sold and couldnt find tenants ... or not sold at all ...

1 of them is 111 Emerald hill

wt_know
12-12-12, 22:26
hold property with no tenant and not staying - what is the property tax rate?


This trend will continue for a while.
People may not be aware that with the subdued interest rates for sooooo loooong, people are willing to accept lower yield on their investments.

Put it this way, even if e units are left empty and property prices up 10% as announced today for 2013, it is better to hold empty units and pay 1% interest to gain 10% cap gains, then to leave money in the bank for 0.x% interest.

DKSG

hyenergix
12-12-12, 22:26
just checked propertyguru

subsales $5.5M to $6.5M
rental $12k to $13k per month
i guess only top atas FT can afford the rent ...

Some fundamental changes in hiring. Large new units in CCR in trouble.

leesg123
12-12-12, 22:37
hold property with no tenant and not staying - what is the property tax rate?
Can claim back:
http://www.iras.gov.sg/irasHome/page04.aspx?id=2380

DKSG
12-12-12, 23:21
Can claim back:
http://www.iras.gov.sg/irasHome/page04.aspx?id=2380

Thanks for helping me reply.

DKSG

teddybear
12-12-12, 23:23
Better than holding Gold... :p


hold property with no tenant and not staying - what is the property tax rate?

fiat500
13-12-12, 00:37
hold property with no tenant and not staying - what is the property tax rate?
If it's vacant,property tax should be same as owner occupier's rate..

hyenergix
13-12-12, 05:00
If it's vacant,property tax should be same as owner occupier's rate..

Loophole for large private developers hoarding their unsold units?

amk
13-12-12, 14:13
If it's vacant,property tax should be same as owner occupier's rate..

no, it's 0. see the link posted above.

CCR
14-12-12, 14:14
Some fundamental changes in hiring. Large new units in CCR in trouble.

I dont agree...

Look at all major TOP cities in the world..
Bigger units in city centre always sought after...

Its the current economic climate that foreigners are not buying these up and with ABSD, then even fewer foreign buyers...

How many singaporeans can afford 5m+ condo? If they can afford usually they buy landed...