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Lemonlaw
29-01-13, 19:31
I saw them building the showflat now. I think should be ready in 1mth time.

Anyone have more info on this ?

"Another Captivating luxury project" tag line.

i saw this on their advertisement when I drove pass.

buttercarp
29-01-13, 19:44
How come they take so long to launch?
They got the land somewhere middle of last year, right?
Is this the one you are referring to?
http://www.h88.com.sg/article/Buangkok+MRT+condo+plot+gets+only+five+bids,+top+bid+of+$301m+from+CDL/

http://www.h88.com.sg/images/content/2012-06-13/buangkok_site.jpg

Pikachu1245
29-01-13, 19:57
How come they take so long to launch?
They got the land somewhere middle of last year, right?
Is this the one you are referring to?
http://www.h88.com.sg/article/Buangkok+MRT+condo+plot+gets+only+five+bids,+top+bid+of+$301m+from+CDL/

http://www.h88.com.sg/images/content/2012-06-13/buangkok_site.jpg

So near mrt, believe $1100 and above psf will also sell out soon.......
Just look at watertown and bedok residences $1500 and above also got people grap. :scared-5:

Vin
29-01-13, 20:45
I saw them building the showflat now. I think should be ready in 1mth time.

Anyone have more info on this ?

"Another Captivating luxury project" tag line.

i saw this on their advertisement when I drove pass.

This website http://buangkokcondo.com/ states that land has been sold on 15Jun 2012.
It has been 7months, no news yet?

bakasa2002
29-01-13, 20:56
wow, nowadays time to market expectations is really high. 6 months to launch??? Tot 9-12mths more likely ... :D

kane
29-01-13, 21:03
how much did they bid for the land?

bargain hunter
29-01-13, 21:13
508.22psf ppr


how much did they bid for the land?

b13boy
29-01-13, 22:13
Saw, h88 guessing 1000psf breakeven, 1100 selling price?
If yes, likely gonna be another hot item

kane
29-01-13, 23:26
Saw, h88 guessing 1000psf breakeven, 1100 selling price?
If yes, likely gonna be another hot item

1000psf? they put marble and hansgrohe and miele in there?? those guys are trying to mark up the price expectation. $350psf construction + financing cost has been accepted as the norm for now.

but assuming at $850psf all in cost, the question would then be how much margins are they setting aside.

bakasa2002
29-01-13, 23:36
1000psf? they put marble and hansgrohe and miele in there?? those guys are trying to mark up the price expectation. $350psf construction + financing cost has been accepted as the norm for now.

but assuming at $850psf all in cost, the question would then be how much margins are they setting aside.

proximity to MRT shd put it to at least 1k-1.1k psf ... Quartz is already touching 1k psf le

kane
30-01-13, 00:02
proximity to MRT shd put it to at least 1k-1.1k psf ... Quartz is already touching 1k psf le

yes, it is understandable if they want to sell it around 1-1.1k psf after factoring in their margins but $1k psf cannot be their cost.

b13boy
30-01-13, 13:09
yes, it is understandable if they want to sell it around 1-1.1k psf after factoring in their margins but $1k psf cannot be their cost.

assuming cost PPR is $500, selling at 1000psf
500 is inclusive of margin and cost

if they want to cut deeper they will sell 1200-1300 psf
since punggol also 1400 psf right :D :scared-1:

4wheels
30-01-13, 19:36
assuming cost PPR is $500, selling at 1000psf
500 is inclusive of margin and cost

if they want to cut deeper they will sell 1200-1300 psf
since punggol also 1400 psf right :D :scared-1:

if ATT and Parc Centro can sell at 9xxk to 10xxk psf, not too sure why all these sxxker developer want to sell at 11xxk psf.:doh:

anyway, i La Feista advertised ABSD discount last weekend but not too sure how much are they absorbing the ABSD.

thunderbird
30-01-13, 21:18
if ATT and Parc Centro can sell at 9xxk to 10xxk psf, not too sure why all these sxxker developer want to sell at 11xxk psf.:doh:

anyway, i La Feista advertised ABSD discount last weekend but not too sure how much are they absorbing the ABSD.

After 22% discount (which includes ABSD discount), their prices are 1200+ psf which is kinda ridiculous isn't it? They think that buyers are fools!

kane
30-01-13, 21:33
After 22% discount (which includes ABSD discount), their prices are 1200+ psf which is kinda ridiculous isn't it? They think that buyers are fools!

they trying to imply they would be selling it for 13xx psf if it weren't for the new ABSDs? heh.

bindexms
02-02-13, 14:32
Those who have miss the boat for ATT and Parc Centros, price that is below 1kpsf will not be back again. Even La F is selling more than 1kpsf after the rebate of stamp duty. Do you think CDL buangkok will sell cheap. Those can afford will buy. Those can't afford will admire others. That is all about it. Now developers and sellers have strong holding power. How will the price drop drastically because of the recent ABSD.

Eh
02-02-13, 21:07
They have started building the showroom.

kane
03-02-13, 01:25
Quartz is the benchmark for the area.

Kenshinto80
03-02-13, 04:03
Those who have miss the boat for ATT and Parc Centros, price that is below 1kpsf will not be back again. Even La F is selling more than 1kpsf after the rebate of stamp duty. Do you think CDL buangkok will sell cheap. Those can afford will buy. Those can't afford will admire others. That is all about it. Now developers and sellers have strong holding power. How will the price drop drastically because of the recent ABSD.

50 years of trust as per CDL. Trust that CDL will always charge high prices to set a new benchmark in the Buangkok area. After all, this will be a captivating new luxury development.

kane
03-02-13, 10:20
50 years of trust as per CDL. Trust that CDL will always charge high prices to set a new benchmark in the Buangkok area. After all, this will be a captivating new luxury development.

CDL don't always charge high price. There's another developer that is more consistent in doing that.

rosnyus
18-02-13, 05:06
hmmm, any idea when it will be launched?

looking forward to view the show flat to justify the price.probably take a month or two for the show flat to be up?

will not commit if too high but i supposed nothing wrong with looking haha

Kenshinto80
18-02-13, 19:31
hmmm, any idea when it will be launched?

looking forward to view the show flat to justify the price.probably take a month or two for the show flat to be up?

will not commit if too high but i supposed nothing wrong with looking haha
Heard from my agent in May'13. Hutton will be one of the marketing agency.

bindexms
24-02-13, 15:50
Heard from my agent in May'13. Hutton will be one of the marketing agency.
Don't put so much hope on this project. The price should be x. At least more than 1k psf. Only mrt nearby. If compare to Sengkang and ponggol, this project will lose out in future as no shopping mall within walking distance. Only a small ntuc and some small retails around. In future, mrt is not a selling point as when 2030 come, most of the housing estate will be within 400m away from mrt. So amenities like big shopping mall nearby will be an added advantage to the price of the condo.

Pikachu1245
24-02-13, 16:51
proximity to MRT shd put it to at least 1k-1.1k psf ... Quartz is already touching 1k psf le

Believe if they right sized the price to total quantum 1 mio or below, many will bite as it is very very near mrt.The CM will slow it down a little though so that first timer can bite first before the rest do. This is especially for one and two bedder..........:scared-5:

bindexms
24-02-13, 17:01
Believe if they right sized the price to total quantum 1 mio or below, many will bite as it is very very near mrt.The CM will slow it down a little though so that first timer can bite first before the rest do. This is especially for one and two bedder..........:scared-5:

Do u think they will sell cheap? With land price 301mils. At least break even price around 900psf. Better buy those with mrt and shopping malls around. Furthermore the price is almost the same. Look at Parc centros that launch last year. Price is cheap for 3 bedders compact. Less than 1mil, will definitely make $ next time.

Lemonlaw
24-02-13, 20:48
The developer is CDL not some CHINA developer, hence I think they will price between 1050-1150 psf. Just my guess only.

bindexms
25-02-13, 08:23
The developer is CDL not some CHINA developer, hence I think they will price between 1050-1150 psf. Just my guess only.


If this will be the price, as well go for luxuries or la fiesta or Parc centros or treasure trove with mrt n shopping mall dr step. Price range also about the same.

Lemonlaw
25-02-13, 11:27
If this will be the price, as well go for luxuries or la fiesta or Parc centros or treasure trove with mrt n shopping mall dr step. Price range also about the same.

Luxurie only left with 2 units of 2 bedder 775 sf. Selling at 981k and 991k.

Eh
25-02-13, 12:46
Huttons agents having meeting on site.

Tek888
25-02-13, 15:12
This plot of land was won by CDL at $508.22 psf ppr.

La Fiesta's plot was $527.65psf ppr.

So expect the average psf to be very close to La Fiesta's $1150.00.

bindexms
25-02-13, 18:48
Luxurie only left with 2 units of 2 bedder 775 sf. Selling at 981k and 991k.

Parc centros is the cheaper. 3 bedder compact less than 900k. Ave price is $894750. Good buy. Near ponggol mrt and big shopping mall Watertown mall.

Lemonlaw
25-02-13, 19:40
Parc centros is the cheaper. 3 bedder compact less than 900k. Ave price is $894750. Good buy. Near ponggol mrt and big shopping mall Watertown mall.

I am referring to the pricing today for Luxurie, is parc centro selling at 900k now for a 3bed room compact. If yes, agents, contact me now. I will buy immediately.

NO_7
27-02-13, 21:36
Wow 7 projects next to MRT all very the expensive de leh.

Tek888
28-02-13, 09:37
Wow 7 projects next to MRT all very the expensive de leh.

what are the 7 projects? Related to your nick? :D

bargain hunter
28-02-13, 09:57
CDL plans to launch 300 units each of D'Nest and Bartley Ridge in March but Buangkok drive only in May.

NO_7
28-02-13, 22:07
what are the 7 projects? Related to your nick? :D
Bartley Ridge, Sennett, Urban Vista, Trilinq, La Fiesta, Hillion, Marina One and plus this CDL project total is 8. Huat ahh.

price
28-02-13, 23:42
CDL plans to launch 300 units each of D'Nest and Bartley Ridge in March but Buangkok drive only in May.
what about their PP plot?

bargain hunter
01-03-13, 02:42
no mention means either H2 2013 or later.


what about their PP plot?

rymccondo77
21-03-13, 11:17
Passed by Buangkok today. Showflat under construction.

Lemonlaw
21-03-13, 20:38
Today new launched HDB BTO on same plot of land but next to esprina EC.

azeoprop
21-03-13, 20:48
Today new launched HDB BTO on same plot of land but next to esprina EC.

Some of the hdb 4 room flats get full unblocked pool views of esprina ec. :rolleyes:

kane
21-03-13, 20:59
so those BTO stacks cost more?

next time hunt younger couples looking for BTO must studying the site plan of the next door condo.

rymccondo77
21-03-13, 21:09
Some of the hdb 4 room flats get full unblocked pool views of esprina ec. :rolleyes:

And maybe some Esparina EC units could get unblocked pool views of this CDL condo :)

Eh
21-03-13, 23:12
And when Esparina residents have move in, they can enjoy the noise dust and pollution from the CDL condo and BTO when both constructions are going on :D

thunderbird
21-04-13, 10:59
Any updates on the launch date?

NO_7
21-04-13, 11:06
La fiesta have many units to move, this project will help to push their sales.
Midtown will made this project looks good, while no more CM coming out, buyers may take their time to shop ard.

delirious_jeff
21-04-13, 15:44
Any updates on the launch date?

Can't wait for this project to launch. Maybe CDL is holding out till their H2O is 100% sold

thunderbird
21-04-13, 16:01
Can't wait for this project to launch. Maybe CDL is holding out till their H2O is 100% sold

Good point. This project if launched @ 1000 psf, will be a sellout!

thunderbird
21-04-13, 16:03
La fiesta have many units to move, this project will help to push their sales.
Midtown will made this project looks good, while no more CM coming out, buyers may take their time to shop ard.

La Fiesta is expensive in terms of psf, 1200 psf. It will be interesting to see the price CDL launches it. If < 1100 psf, it should outpace La Fiesta.

Kenshinto80
21-04-13, 18:41
La Fiesta is expensive in terms of psf, 1200 psf. It will be interesting to see the price CDL launches it. If < 1100 psf, it should outpace La Fiesta.
This is very near MRT. CDL probably would not want to do too much charity work. Also UOL just won another plot in Sengkang West which is expected to be launched above 1000psf and that is not anywhere near any MRT. My gut feel tells me should be an average of 1150psf to counter La Feista 1200psf.

viceroy
21-04-13, 20:15
Buangkok no nearby mall but there is one near la fiesta ... hopefully will price below 1200psf .. anyway buyer can now shop around wif the many projects going on ...

Kenshinto80
21-04-13, 20:45
Buangkok no nearby mall but there is one near la fiesta ... hopefully will price below 1200psf .. anyway buyer can now shop around wif the many projects going on ...
I hope CDL dun do a La Feista and offer 3 bedder compact at 893sqft. Lots of developers even big boys like Far East these days playing the shrinking apartment size game to keep quantum affordable. In 2008 period, 3 bedder 1184sqft. 2010 period became 1130sqft. 2011 saw 1076sqft and 2012/13 even more amazing shrinkage.

Roxy Home, Fragrance and World Class Land even more champion.

azeoprop
21-04-13, 21:08
I hope CDL dun do a La Feista and offer 3 bedder compact at 893sqft. Lots of developers even big boys like Far East these days playing the shrinking apartment size game to keep quantum affordable. In 2008 period, 3 bedder 1184sqft. 2010 period became 1130sqft. 2011 saw 1076sqft and 2012/13 even more amazing shrinkage.

Roxy Home, Fragrance and World Class Land even more champion.


Actually 3 bedder 829sqft can be done comfortably, just make small balcony and small a/c ledge and no bomb shelter. Type C1 of the nautical is a good example.

http://thenauticalcondo.info/images/The%20Nautical%203%20Bedroom%20Flrplan%20C1%20700pix.jpg

Kenshinto80
22-04-13, 04:40
Actually 3 bedder 829sqft can be done comfortably, just make small balcony and small a/c ledge and no bomb shelter. Type C1 of the nautical is a good example.

http://thenauticalcondo.info/images/The%20Nautical%203%20Bedroom%20Flrplan%20C1%20700pix.jpg
Far East project balcony already small in a/c ledge relative to other developers. If 829sqft, not just small balcony or no bomb shelter/storage room, also no yard and no WC which used to be included in 3 bedders but fast disappearing...not to mention tiny bedrooms. The term comfortable is very subjective. Compare to a 1184sqft or 1270sqft (b4 2008) 3 bedders, which one is more comfortable?

kane
22-04-13, 08:41
800+sqft at most should only have 2 bedrooms. Any more than that and it is starting to feel very cramp.

Lemonlaw
22-04-13, 10:45
800+sqft at most should only have 2 bedrooms. Any more than that and it is starting to feel very cramp.

Moving forward, this type of sizes will be the norm.

1 bedder studio shoebox is spreading to 2bedroom shoebox and 3bedroom shoebox...these days even Penthouse also got shoebox.

Well done. :doh:

delirious_jeff
23-04-13, 00:17
This is very near MRT. CDL probably would not want to do too much charity work. Also UOL just won another plot in Sengkang West which is expected to be launched above 1000psf and that is not anywhere near any MRT. My gut feel tells me should be an average of 1150psf to counter La Feista 1200psf.

Depends on interior finishing and layout also, I think.

UOL plot at Sengkang is good. Idyllic location near Seletar mall. Unblock facing northeast, east, southeast to little river (not longkang). That one also worth the wait! Would prefer this location but family members think otherwise.

ulrich76
23-04-13, 07:11
Actually 3 bedder 829sqft can be done comfortably, just make small balcony and small a/c ledge and no bomb shelter. Type C1 of the nautical is a good example.

http://thenauticalcondo.info/images/The%20Nautical%203%20Bedroom%20Flrplan%20C1%20700pix.jpg

Problem is no storage space. Only 3 wardrobes to store everything. Got to be highly disciplined to throw away things :)

darkseed73
23-04-13, 13:57
Actually 3 bedder 829sqft can be done comfortably, just make small balcony and small a/c ledge and no bomb shelter. Type C1 of the nautical is a good example.

http://thenauticalcondo.info/images/The%20Nautical%203%20Bedroom%20Flrplan%20C1%20700pix.jpg

OMG the size 77sqm same size as Esparina 2 bedder @@;;

4wheels
23-04-13, 20:15
Depends on interior finishing and layout also, I think.

UOL plot at Sengkang is good. Idyllic location near Seletar mall. Unblock facing northeast, east, southeast to little river (not longkang). That one also worth the wait! Would prefer this location but family members think otherwise.

where is this located? Next to H2O? If it is, then the east is actually a semi-expressway running parallel next to the river!

azeoprop
23-04-13, 21:24
where is this located? Next to H2O? If it is, then the east is actually a semi-expressway running parallel next to the river!
It is beside the quartz condo next to buangkok mrt.

delirious_jeff
23-04-13, 22:03
where is this located? Next to H2O? If it is, then the east is actually a semi-expressway running parallel next to the river!

http://www.welovepunggol.com/2013/04/sengkang-west-way-condo-parcel-a/

NO_7
23-04-13, 23:31
These days most of the projects only provide homogeneous tile, seldom you can find one with complete marble finishing. Best still sold out at 1100psf in OCR like nobody business.
Notice only FEO give out price list to customers n they did indicate the a/c ledge space in the list eg. 2sqm which is approximately 21.53sqft.
CDL should do the same as well, anyway their project D'Nest already sell so well, dun expect them to price this project in the same range as D'Nest.

kane
24-04-13, 01:30
this project is nearer to MRT than D'Nest. and the NTUC is 24hours. but no mall with shops like popular and challenger like those in white sands.

rymccondo77
28-04-13, 18:14
There is Compass Pt one MRT stop away and Watertown in future 2 stops away.

A bit of inconvenience but better than nothing.

Lemonlaw
02-05-13, 12:54
This month is the launch month. Let's us look at the pricing.

NickySee
02-05-13, 20:42
where is this located? Next to H2O? If it is, then the east is actually a semi-expressway running parallel next to the river!

http://jewel-buangkok.org/showflat-location/

Lemonlaw
02-05-13, 21:18
Nice name...Jewel.

azeoprop
02-05-13, 21:58
Jewel.... You Were Meant For Me :rolleyes:

http://youtu.be/7OAOdqzIQZY

Lemonlaw
03-05-13, 22:02
Golf Simulator as part of the facilities at Jewel @ Buangkok. :cheers6:

Time to hoot this project if pricing is good.

Eh
03-05-13, 22:44
Golf Simulator as part of the facilities at Jewel @ Buangkok. :cheers6:

Time to hoot this project if pricing is good.

Golf or no golf simulator not important as long as the price is good just hoot.

snoopy
04-05-13, 05:21
What pricing will be considered good?


Golf or no golf simulator not important as long as the price is good just hoot.

star
04-05-13, 07:48
My guess $1100psf.

henryhk
04-05-13, 12:17
I tink it will start from 1.2k psf....as it is walking distance to mrt

Eh
04-05-13, 13:24
What pricing will be considered good?

$1.2k. Kovan regency's bid price is only $1 difference to this one. So if the starting is 1.2k consider good Liao.

terrynfs
04-05-13, 14:26
compare to luxurie, fiesta, 1.2k is very expensive

henryhk
04-05-13, 14:56
compare to luxurie, fiesta, 1.2k is very expensive
Luxurie is old project.....this year pricing is my great grand father also can't imagine.

kane
04-05-13, 16:18
luxurie haven't even started the major construction yet leh.

must see how this finishing compares with the luxurie one.

bakasa2002
04-05-13, 23:25
luxurie haven't even started the major construction yet leh.

must see how this finishing compares with the luxurie one.

Think Keppel finishing will still be a notch better than CDL...

kane
05-05-13, 00:17
i was marginally moved by the finishing of Luxurie. CDL can do it if they want. their top end project not bad mah.

Lemonlaw
05-05-13, 11:30
i was marginally moved by the finishing of Luxurie. CDL can do it if they want. their top end project not bad mah.

Showflat are great illusion, I can only comment when I see the actual product upon TOP.

Lemonlaw
05-05-13, 21:38
Lets count down for the launch day.

NO_7
05-05-13, 22:15
This project is just next to an EC which is going to TOP soon, any up side here?

kane
05-05-13, 22:28
Showflat are great illusion, I can only comment when I see the actual product upon TOP.

you want to choose your preferred unit, most of the time you have to buy off plan. not many projects complete and still have choice units remaining unless there was a prolonged crisis.

Lemonlaw
06-05-13, 09:32
you want to choose your preferred unit, most of the time you have to buy off plan. not many projects complete and still have choice units remaining unless there was a prolonged crisis.

I can see the potential in this area, already registered for Vvip, hope the price is reasonable as in around 1100. Time to hoot a jewel.

2824
06-05-13, 10:55
I can see the potential in this area, already registered for Vvip, hope the price is reasonable as in around 1100. Time to hoot a jewel.

Care to share the potential for the area, apart from the MRT, the role of shops (with NTUC) , dun really see that much. with the BTOs coming up place also going to be packed and there's not much land left for other developement except at the MRT :beats-me-man:

Lemonlaw
06-05-13, 13:55
Care to share the potential for the area, apart from the MRT, the role of shops (with NTUC) , dun really see that much. with the BTOs coming up place also going to be packed and there's not much land left for other developement except at the MRT :beats-me-man:


It is all factor in the pricing. Nothing much in the area, TRUE...but why is that those 4 rm (90sq/m) HDB next to Buangkok MRT surged so much to 600k+++ and recently heard one 4 room HDB transacted nearly 700k.

The pricing is even higher than 5 room HDB near to Sengkang MRT.

No potential why prices gone up higher that similar flats in the same Punggol & SK.

mantrix
06-05-13, 14:03
I can see the potential in this area, already registered for Vvip, hope the price is reasonable as in around 1100. Time to hoot a jewel.

1100? Jewel?

Then owners at Esparina will be laughing all the way to the bank.

Lemonlaw
06-05-13, 14:14
1100? Jewel?

Then owners at Esparina will be laughing all the way to the bank.

Esparina owners averagely paid 750+++ psf that is after the govt grant.

EC and PC difference is usually 30%....1000psf is a fair deal for Jewel.

The Quartz which is readily to move in or rent out condition is selling at 1000-1100 psf.

Some agents told me the price for jewel might be 1200-1300. I told them if this is the case, the sales will be similar to mid-town. :cheers2:

terrynfs
06-05-13, 15:12
heard 2 bedder 743 sqft at 880k, expensive than la fiesta

2824
06-05-13, 15:30
It is all factor in the pricing. Nothing much in the area, TRUE...but why is that those 4 rm (90sq/m) HDB next to Buangkok MRT surged so much to 600k+++ and recently heard one 4 room HDB transacted nearly 700k.

The pricing is even higher than 5 room HDB near to Sengkang MRT.

No potential why prices gone up higher that similar flats in the same Punggol & SK.

Actually some attraction abt the buangkok area now include:
underground carpark, quite nice facade for HDB and just about 5 year old HDB, a self-contained area with basic necessities, very close proximity to mrt.

The flats in sengkang and Punggol are on average about slight past 10 years old, facade really nothing to crow about.
But sk and punggol still seem to have better potential opportunities in future.

2824
06-05-13, 15:32
heard 2 bedder 743 sqft at 880k, expensive than la fiesta

Not cheap, maybe target at those who cash out from HDB over there.

it will be interesting to see what the rental will be like for smaller units when esparina TOPs.

Lemonlaw
06-05-13, 15:54
PRELIMINARY INFORMATION
Project Name: Jewel @ Buangkok
Developer City Developments Limited
Description: Proposed Residential Housing Development
Address: Buangkok Drive / Sengkang Central
Site Area: Approx. 5,112 sqm (55,023 sqft)
Tenure: 99 Years From 12 September 2012
Expected TOP Date: To Be Confirmed
Expected Legal Completion: To Be Confirmed
Total No. of Units: 616 units (6 Blocks)
Unit Mix:
1-Bedroom: Approx. 484 to 506 sqft – 82 Units
2-Bedroom: Approx. 743 to 775 sqft – 219 Units
3-Bedroom Compact: Approx. 915 to 947 sqft – 96 Units
3-Bedroom Premium: Approx. 1098 to 1152 sqft – 139 Units
4-Bedroom: Approx. 1450 sqft – 44 Units
4-Bedroom Dual Key: Approx. 1450 sqft – 15 Units
5-Bedroom: Approx. 1650 sqft – 16 Units
Penthouse: Approx. 2131 to 2723 sqft – 5 Units

star
06-05-13, 16:05
PRELIMINARY INFORMATION
Project Name: Jewel @ Buangkok
Developer City Developments Limited
Description: Proposed Residential Housing Development
Address: Buangkok Drive / Sengkang Central
Site Area: Approx. 5,112 sqm (55,023 sqft)
Tenure: 99 Years From 12 September 2012
Expected TOP Date: To Be Confirmed
Expected Legal Completion: To Be Confirmed
Total No. of Units: 616 units (6 Blocks)
Unit Mix:
1-Bedroom: Approx. 484 to 506 sqft – 82 Units
2-Bedroom: Approx. 743 to 775 sqft – 219 Units
3-Bedroom Compact: Approx. 915 to 947 sqft – 96 Units
3-Bedroom Premium: Approx. 1098 to 1152 sqft – 139 Units
4-Bedroom: Approx. 1450 sqft – 44 Units
4-Bedroom Dual Key: Approx. 1450 sqft – 15 Units
5-Bedroom: Approx. 1650 sqft – 16 Units
Penthouse: Approx. 2131 to 2723 sqft – 5 Units

600units in 5500sqft!! Omg.

star
06-05-13, 16:06
PRELIMINARY INFORMATION
Project Name: Jewel @ Buangkok
Developer City Developments Limited
Description: Proposed Residential Housing Development
Address: Buangkok Drive / Sengkang Central
Site Area: Approx. 5,112 sqm (55,023 sqft)
Tenure: 99 Years From 12 September 2012
Expected TOP Date: To Be Confirmed
Expected Legal Completion: To Be Confirmed
Total No. of Units: 616 units (6 Blocks)
Unit Mix:
1-Bedroom: Approx. 484 to 506 sqft – 82 Units
2-Bedroom: Approx. 743 to 775 sqft – 219 Units
3-Bedroom Compact: Approx. 915 to 947 sqft – 96 Units
3-Bedroom Premium: Approx. 1098 to 1152 sqft – 139 Units
4-Bedroom: Approx. 1450 sqft – 44 Units
4-Bedroom Dual Key: Approx. 1450 sqft – 15 Units
5-Bedroom: Approx. 1650 sqft – 16 Units
Penthouse: Approx. 2131 to 2723 sqft – 5 Units

600units in 55000sqft!! Omg. As expensive as jewel.

Eh
06-05-13, 16:08
PRELIMINARY INFORMATION
Project Name: Jewel @ Buangkok
Developer City Developments Limited
Description: Proposed Residential Housing Development
Address: Buangkok Drive / Sengkang Central
Site Area: Approx. 5,112 sqm (55,023 sqft)
Tenure: 99 Years From 12 September 2012
Expected TOP Date: To Be Confirmed
Expected Legal Completion: To Be Confirmed
Total No. of Units: 616 units (6 Blocks)
Unit Mix:
1-Bedroom: Approx. 484 to 506 sqft – 82 Units
2-Bedroom: Approx. 743 to 775 sqft – 219 Units
3-Bedroom Compact: Approx. 915 to 947 sqft – 96 Units
3-Bedroom Premium: Approx. 1098 to 1152 sqft – 139 Units
4-Bedroom: Approx. 1450 sqft – 44 Units
4-Bedroom Dual Key: Approx. 1450 sqft – 15 Units
5-Bedroom: Approx. 1650 sqft – 16 Units
Penthouse: Approx. 2131 to 2723 sqft – 5 Units

Any site plan and floor plan to share?

Lemonlaw
06-05-13, 16:09
Any site plan and floor plan to share?

I am not an agent, got it from here.

http://www.jewelatbuangkok.com.sg/jewelatbuangkok/

Eh
06-05-13, 16:19
I am not an agent, got it from here.

http://www.jewelatbuangkok.com.sg/jewelatbuangkok/


Ok thanks.

Reuben
06-05-13, 17:05
Do we know whats the plot ratio for this?

Reuben
06-05-13, 17:13
But how it be so small? 55K Sqft is even smaller then Jade Residence!! :scared-5:

Eh
06-05-13, 17:15
Do we know whats the plot ratio for this?

From master plan 3.0

auroraborealis
06-05-13, 17:48
Search Results Flat Type:4 Room Street Name:Compassvale Bow Resale Approval Date:Jan 2013 To Apr 2013
Total number of records (http://services2.hdb.gov.sg/webapp/BB33RTIS/BB33SPrintResults?PrintKey=2#) found = 9 HDB TownBlock Storey Floor Area (sqm) /
Flat Model Lease
Commence
Date Resale
Price Resale
Approval
Date Sengkang264F11 to 1592.00
Premium Apartment2008$610,000.00Mar 2013 Sengkang266C11 to 1592.00
Premium Apartment2007$602,000.00Mar 2013 Sengkang264B06 to 1092.00
Premium Apartment2007$560,000.00Feb 2013 Sengkang266B11 to 1592.00
Premium Apartment2007$605,000.00Feb 2013 Sengkang264D11 to 1592.00
Premium Apartment2008$590,000.00Jan 2013 Sengkang264E06 to 1092.00
Premium Apartment2008$565,000.00Jan 2013 Sengkang264F11 to 1592.00
Premium Apartment2008$605,000.00Jan 2013 Sengkang265D16 to 2092.00
Premium Apartment2007$606,333.00Jan 2013 Sengkang266B11 to 1592.00
Premium Apartment2007$605,000.00Jan 2013

terrynfs
06-05-13, 17:49
easily get from google:

SITE AREA (SQM) 18,340.7
SITE GFA (SQM) 55,023.0

lionhill
06-05-13, 21:07
600units in 5500sqft!! Omg.
is there anything wrong with the site area? maybe 255,000sqft?

Lemonlaw
06-05-13, 21:17
Flat Type : 4 Room
Street Name : Compassvale Link
Block No. : 275 To 277
Resale Approval Date : Jan 2013 To Apr 2013
Total number of records found = 12 New Enquiry Printer Friendly Save to PDF
HDB Town
Block /
Nearby
Amenities
Storey
Floor Area (sqm) /
Flat Model
Lease
Commence
Date
Resale
Price
Resale
Approval
Date
Sengkang 275C 01 to 05 90.00
Premium Apartment 2009 $553,000.00 Apr 2013
Sengkang 275B 11 to 15 90.00
Premium Apartment 2009 $645,000.00 Mar 2013
Sengkang 275B 11 to 15 90.00
Premium Apartment 2009 $625,000.00 Mar 2013
Sengkang 275C 11 to 15 90.00
Premium Apartment 2009 $621,000.00 Mar 2013
Sengkang 275C 06 to 10 92.00
Premium Apartment 2009 $640,000.00 Mar 2013
Sengkang 275C 06 to 10 90.00
Premium Apartment 2009 $592,000.00 Mar 2013
Sengkang 275D 11 to 15 90.00
Premium Apartment 2009 $633,000.00 Mar 2013
Sengkang 275C 11 to 15 90.00
Premium Apartment 2009 $622,000.00 Feb 2013
Sengkang 275D 11 to 15 90.00
Premium Apartment 2009 $633,000.00 Feb 2013
Sengkang 275A 01 to 05 90.00
Premium Apartment 2009 $557,000.00 Jan 2013
Sengkang 275D 06 to 10 92.00
Premium Apartment 2009 $608,000.00 Jan 2013
Sengkang 275D 01 to 05 92.00
Premium Apartment 2009 $595,000.00 Jan 2013

kane
06-05-13, 22:47
Esparina owners averagely paid 750+++ psf that is after the govt grant.

EC and PC difference is usually 30%....1000psf is a fair deal for Jewel.

The Quartz which is readily to move in or rent out condition is selling at 1000-1100 psf.

Some agents told me the price for jewel might be 1200-1300. I told them if this is the case, the sales will be similar to mid-town. :cheers2:

how was the response at midtown?

Lemonlaw
06-05-13, 23:04
No news means bad news lor...that's what I guess.

Usually for property new launch, agents are eagerly trying to share 80% sold, 100% sold during launch...or even 400 cheques for 300+ units etc...

This one seems dead and not much news.

Wondering how many carrots are willing to be CHOP? :doh:

Lemonlaw
10-05-13, 10:35
Preview Date is out, 31 May 13.

darkseed73
10-05-13, 14:58
No news means bad news lor...that's what I guess.

Usually for property new launch, agents are eagerly trying to share 80% sold, 100% sold during launch...or even 400 cheques for 300+ units etc...

This one seems dead and not much news.

Wondering how many carrots are willing to be CHOP? :doh:

Don't even have design, concept or theme - nothing for agents to push.

It better look like a jewel.....if they really going to sell 1200psf.

Lemonlaw
11-05-13, 10:53
Don't even have design, concept or theme - nothing for agents to push.

It better look like a jewel.....if they really going to sell 1200psf.

I think they going by Luxury Concept....its going to be EXP man...:doh:

Kenshinto80
11-05-13, 17:17
is there anything wrong with the site area? maybe 255,000sqft?
Haha, Lemonlaw posting shld read ard 198,000sqft for site area. 55,000sqft site area too small....haha

ZeeWee
12-05-13, 15:03
briefing tomorrow.. should be able to provide you guys with more updates soon

maybe showflat open for viewing on Tuesday onwards

Kenshinto80
12-05-13, 17:56
briefing tomorrow.. should be able to provide you guys with more updates soon

maybe showflat open for viewing on Tuesday onwards
Do give updates ya. Thks. I am very sure this project will sell like hotcakes....CDL branding and within 3mins to MRT.

kane
12-05-13, 21:48
Some pricing info, when it is available, will be nice.

bakasa2002
12-05-13, 23:56
what's the expected breakeven?

Lemonlaw
13-05-13, 09:25
what's the expected breakeven?

Should be around 900psf.

ZeeWee
13-05-13, 12:42
no info on pricing out.. floorplans and pictures also not ready yet.. only be released out over the next few days

But showflat open starting this Sat.. showcasing a 2bedroom, 3 bedroom premium and 4 bedroom... IMO the 4 bedroom is very nice.

- 2 themes to choose from for Bedroom floorings and colouring of kitchen cabinets.
- No baywindows and HS for Jewel
- Washer not given
- substations are underneath stack 15 and 16 which are 3 bedroom premium units and Bin Centre near there as well
- Some units will have 2 balconies, ie 1 in the living room and the other in the master bedroom
- Balcony Screenings provided for all the units as well
- tentative preview should be 31st May, before everyone goes for June Holiday Tour/Trip


Will continue to update if I have more info. anyone keen to see showflat with me let me know too :D

Lemonlaw
13-05-13, 12:58
no info on pricing out.. floorplans and pictures also not ready yet.. only be released out over the next few days

But showflat open starting this Sat.. showcasing a 2bedroom, 3 bedroom premium and 4 bedroom... IMO the 4 bedroom is very nice.

- 2 themes to choose from for Bedroom floorings and colouring of kitchen cabinets.
- No baywindows and HS for Jewel
- Washer not given
- substations are underneath stack 15 and 16 which are 3 bedroom premium units and Bin Centre near there as well
- Some units will have 2 balconies, ie 1 in the living room and the other in the master bedroom
- Balcony Screenings provided for all the units as well
- tentative preview should be 31st May, before everyone goes for June Holiday Tour/Trip


Will continue to update if I have more info. anyone keen to see showflat with me let me know too :D

Thanks for the info...any idea does the premium 3 bed room comes with 2 balcony?

NO_7
13-05-13, 13:14
Sound like FEO, the balcony screen is new from CDL tho.

ZeeWee
13-05-13, 13:14
regarding units with 2 balconies, its not like the whole stack will be 1 or 2 balconies. its more like maybe 2nd to 9th floor unit comes with 1 balcony, 10th to 12th comes with 2 balconies and thereafter 13th to 14th back to 1 balcony.

so units with 2 balconies will be pretty random throughout the development

azeoprop
13-05-13, 13:14
Some artist's impression of the project.
http://www.jewelatbuangkok.com.sg/

Lemonlaw
13-05-13, 13:26
Some artist's impression of the project.
http://www.jewelatbuangkok.com.sg/


Looks good, must see if the indicative pricing is as beautiful as the artist impression. :47:

4wheels
13-05-13, 19:49
what's the expected breakeven?



Sold on 15 Jun 2012

Site area (sqm)
18,340.7

Site GFA (sqm)
55,023.0

Highest bid ($m)
301.0

Highest bid ($psf)
508.2

Number of bids
5

Developer's Breakeven

Land ($m) 301.0
Construction ($m) 177.7
Land Financing ($m) 21.1
Professional / Legal / Taxes ($m) 39.4
Marketing / Others ($m) 6.5
Est. Total Cost ($m) 545.7
Est. Breakeven ($psf ppr) 921

viceroy
14-05-13, 10:28
Understand the showflat opening is on tis sat .. indicative price for 1 br is on the high 5xxK .. it works out nearly 1280 - 1300 psf ...

Lemonlaw
14-05-13, 11:39
If prices is $1080psf...i can hoot a 4bedder. The stack nearer to the mrt.

Eh
14-05-13, 12:28
If prices is $1080psf...i can hoot a 4bedder. The stack nearer to the mrt.

The stack nearer to mrt should be 8?

Lemonlaw
14-05-13, 13:47
The stack nearer to mrt should be 8?

That pink color one.

buttercarp
14-05-13, 14:51
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BKNPqVGCcAAZkOM.png
Stack 7 looks nearest to Buangkok MRT station.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BKNRfk_CUAA5dFq.png (https://twitter.com/Buttercarp/status/334200400297218048/photo/1/large)

Eh
14-05-13, 15:01
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BKNPqVGCcAAZkOM.png
Stack 7 looks nearest to Buangkok MRT station.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BKNRfk_CUAA5dFq.png (https://twitter.com/Buttercarp/status/334200400297218048/photo/1/large)

He is looking at a 4 bedder nearest to mrt. Is stack 7 a 4 bedder?

buttercarp
14-05-13, 15:07
He is looking at a 4 bedder nearest to mrt. Is stack 7 a 4 bedder?

Oops , did not quite follow his question.
If 4 bedder then stack 8 is nearest.
Stack 7 is 3 bedder premium, from the picture.

Eh
14-05-13, 15:28
Oops , did not quite follow his question.
If 4 bedder then stack 8 is nearest.
Stack 7 is 3 bedder premium, from the picture.

Ok. I can't see the picture clearly and I can't recall the site plan given to me so I asked you about it :beats-me-man:

Lemonlaw
14-05-13, 15:46
Oops , did not quite follow his question.
If 4 bedder then stack 8 is nearest.
Stack 7 is 3 bedder premium, from the picture.

Yes, I am looking at the pinky stack 8. Hope the price dont shock me.

rymccondo77
14-05-13, 18:56
This URL has the site plan with the facilities indicated:

http://www.jewel-at-buangkok.com.sg/jewelbuangkok-facilities.htm

NO_7
14-05-13, 22:39
Golf Simulator as part of the facilities at Jewel @ Buangkok. :cheers6:

Time to hoot this project if pricing is good.
Cannot find the golf simulator leh! Issit in the basement?

Lemonlaw
14-05-13, 22:52
Cannot find the golf simulator leh! Issit in the basement?

I can't find it too. Any agents can share some light?

kane
14-05-13, 23:40
will stack 8 be too close to the main road? thought the stack number is nice lah. :D

rymccondo77
15-05-13, 00:27
I can't find it too. Any agents can share some light?

Golf simulator in the games room?

Lemonlaw
15-05-13, 10:41
All floor plan is out already.

terrynfs
15-05-13, 10:44
All floor plan is out already.

any indicative price?

Lemonlaw
15-05-13, 10:58
any indicative price?

I just received the full floor plans from agents...no idea on price yet.

azeoprop
15-05-13, 11:42
I just received the full floor plans from agents...no idea on price yet.

Can share the 1 bedder floor plans here? stack 25 and 13. :D

Opps, just found them all here:
http://www.jewel-at-buangkok.com.sg/jewelbuangkok-floorplans-A1.htm

Most have this long passageway from the main door. :beats-me-man:

NO_7
15-05-13, 12:19
C1, D3 looks ok without the long passageway except balconcy looks big plus the screens are sliding type instead of bi-fold. Many layouts are open kitchen concept. Will this be similar as EC, all penhouses and Dk will wipe out?

NO_7
15-05-13, 13:00
Apr sales
MidTown 51 units @ $1,479 psf
La Fiesta 25 units @ $1,175 psf
ATT 3 units @ $930 psf

Lemonlaw
15-05-13, 13:49
Any pricing updates from agents?

4wheels
15-05-13, 16:39
C1, D3 looks ok without the long passageway except balconcy looks big plus the screens are sliding type instead of bi-fold. Many layouts are open kitchen concept. Will this be similar as EC, all penhouses and Dk will wipe out?

what is screens for balcony? like a door that are either slide or folder to the side?

4wheels
15-05-13, 16:51
4 bedder DK unit is good.

Small balcony
Balcony not share with the studio so there are some privacy if rent out.
Space for dressing table or study table in the master room

NO_7
15-05-13, 22:12
what is screens for balcony? like a door that are either slide or folder to the side?
Most FEO projects eg. Greenwich or Floridian does have it, louvered sliding or bifold, as for this case is use to block the sun.

kane
15-05-13, 23:53
all the sizes look pretty sensible. not those pigeon hole type of units.

2824
16-05-13, 08:53
Most FEO projects eg. Greenwich or Floridian does have it, louvered sliding or bifold, as for this case is use to block the sun.

Think it will act more as a privacy shield as most, if not all units are n-s facing. Part of the developement have 3 blks, probably distance between blks not that far apart.

Lemonlaw
16-05-13, 14:03
I think the pricing still not out yet, tons of guessing.

2824
16-05-13, 15:59
I think the pricing still not out yet, tons of guessing.

Should be lower than bartley ridge and maybe equal to la fiesta? :confused:

azeoprop
16-05-13, 16:14
Should be lower than bartley ridge and maybe equal to la fiesta? :confused:

Most probably will be similar to La fiesta. :beats-me-man:

2824
16-05-13, 18:00
Most probably will be similar to La fiesta. :beats-me-man:

Bartley ridge units are also a tad smaller based on same bedder. :confused: :confused:

Lemonlaw
17-05-13, 11:11
Showflat opens for preview tomorrow after 10am....any agents got news on the pricing?

Lemonlaw
17-05-13, 16:29
Just received hot from oven from agent. VVIP PREVIEW PRICE

1br fr $618k 463- 581sq/ft

2br fr $ 818K 689-904 sq/ft

3br fr $988k 872-1130 sq/ft

3br premium fr $1.23m 1109-1369 sq/ft

4br fr $1.53m 1324-1625 sq/ft

4br DK fr $1.63m 1356-1646sq/ft

5br fr $1.8m 1636-1701 sq/ft

PH fr $2.5m 2067-2540 sq/ft

azeoprop
17-05-13, 16:35
1 bedder so expensive!!! :scared-5:

terrynfs
17-05-13, 16:51
1 bedder so expensive!!! :scared-5:

+1 :scared-5:

DC33_2008
17-05-13, 16:55
Pricing is rather unrealistic. :eek:

Lemonlaw
17-05-13, 17:18
With this pricing, I need to add in my 10% ABSD + 3% SSD....not worth investing for my case.... :doh:

azeoprop
17-05-13, 17:58
La fiesta and the luxurie now looks like a good buy. :doh:

kane
17-05-13, 18:02
Average price about 1100-1150psf...hmmm...

terrynfs
17-05-13, 18:06
La fiesta and the luxurie now looks like a good buy. :doh:

i want parc centros :doh:

NO_7
17-05-13, 18:21
Wats the discount like? Can it be 20% like wat WT had?
ABSD reimbursement n +++...

viceroy
17-05-13, 21:00
Really Really disappointed with the 1 br price .. I would rather choose the one tat is near the hougang mall . Difference only less than 50 psf ..

Pikachu1245
17-05-13, 22:19
Average price about 1100-1150psf...hmmm...


Expected .....similar to luxurie and La Fiesta psf pricing which are also very near to mrt/mall.....:2cents:

star
17-05-13, 22:35
1 bedder ocr will eventually reach $2000psf in future.

kane
17-05-13, 22:42
i thought we saw this pricing coming already given where the peer projects were selling at, including next door resale Quartz, so how can we still be disappointed when we expected it? and surely we would have calculated the potential ABSD well no?

it surely isn't cheap but it surely isn't surprising.

Xan
18-05-13, 00:03
Just received hot from oven from agent. VVIP PREVIEW PRICE

1br fr $618k 463- 581sq/ft

2br fr $ 818K 689-904 sq/ft

3br fr $988k 872-1130 sq/ft

3br premium fr $1.23m 1109-1369 sq/ft

4br fr $1.53m 1324-1625 sq/ft

4br DK fr $1.63m 1356-1646sq/ft

5br fr $1.8m 1636-1701 sq/ft

PH fr $2.5m 2067-2540 sq/ft

I remember urban vista cheapest 1 bedder ard same size sells at 588k, this one dare to sell from 618k. Lol :D
Not sure if the price is before or after discount.

kane
18-05-13, 00:04
I remember urban vista cheapest 1 bedder ard same size sells at 588k, this one dare to sell from 618k. Lol :D

i think i understand now, it's the 1 bedder pricing that people are objecting.

Xan
18-05-13, 00:07
i think i understand now, it's the 1 bedder pricing that people are objecting.

Not so, other sizes in this project looks expensive too.
5 bedder 1.8 mil compared to parc centros 5 bedder at 1.5mil.

kane
18-05-13, 00:30
Not so, other sizes in this project looks expensive too.
5 bedder 1.8 mil compared to parc centros 5 bedder at 1.5mil.

parc centros happened when things weren't as hot. parc centros 4 bedder was $1.3m and 3 bedder was $1m.

rosnyus
18-05-13, 08:40
Wats the discount like? Can it be 20% like wat WT had?
ABSD reimbursement n +++...
The price is after discount...:banghead:

azeoprop
18-05-13, 09:49
parc centros happened when things weren't as hot. parc centros 4 bedder was $1.3m and 3 bedder was $1m.

Parc centros quoted me the cheapest 3 bedder 92sqm #02-04 for $846750 during launch last time.... too bad still overbudget. :o

Xan
18-05-13, 09:55
Parc centros quoted me the cheapest 3 bedder 92sqm #02-04 for $846750 during launch last time.... too bad still overbudget. :o

That unit was next to the rubbish chute.
Another unit facing the road 3brc quoted me 860K, level 3.

Lemonlaw
18-05-13, 10:14
I am going showflat now...keep you guys posted when back.

Lemonlaw
18-05-13, 12:23
Information I gotten from the show flat:

The price given was after VVIP discount.

The 2 bed room showroom is very small and the open concept kitchen is bad.

The 3 bed room and 4 bedroom are very decent...No marble use in this project..all are homo tiles and toilet using ceramic.

The psf for this project is averagely 1150-1200. even for PH, the psf is 1200 due to all PH are pool facing and unlike other project which the bigger the unit the lower the psf.

Kitchen are nicely done up with hiflux water sytem.

Overall....not bad if u getting the 3-4bedder.

2 bed room is the worse IMO.

Pricing not cheap. Good luck

azeoprop
18-05-13, 12:51
This kind of price might as well buy La fiesta with sheltered walkway direct to mall and mrt. :tsk-tsk:

star
18-05-13, 13:11
What is expensive nowadays will become cheap in a few months time.
Soon sky habitat will be cheap.

viceroy
18-05-13, 13:13
I would tink personally with tis price, I would purchase midtown comparing the 1 br quartum with jewel
... moreover air conditioned shopping mall is jus rite below ...

bakasa2002
18-05-13, 13:16
proximity to malls aside, i do think that CDL has better quality in their product compared to LF or midtown, but I do agree the price is not cheap ...:D

yowetan
18-05-13, 13:19
proximity to malls aside, i do think that CDL has better quality in their product compared to LF or midtown, but I do agree the price is not cheap ...:D


Hi...I disagree with your perception of CDL build quality and control.

One fine example - Blossom Residence in Bukit Panjang. It is horrible.

NO_7
18-05-13, 13:25
I would tink personally with tis price, I would purchase midtown comparing the 1 br quartum with jewel
... moreover air conditioned shopping mall is jus rite below ...
Retail share car park space with Residential.

rymccondo77
18-05-13, 13:40
Not so, other sizes in this project looks expensive too.
5 bedder 1.8 mil compared to parc centros 5 bedder at 1.5mil.

Assuming both 5 bedders are about the same size, the $300,000 difference is a lot considering that Parc Centros is only 2 MRT stations away (about 5 minutes more in travel time on the MRT for those taking MRT).

terrynfs
18-05-13, 13:52
parc centros happened when things weren't as hot. parc centros 4 bedder was $1.3m and 3 bedder was $1m.

parc centros 3 bedder starts @ 850k, and it is 990sqft :tongue3:

2824
18-05-13, 14:06
Just back from show flat which was super packed.

With all the existing construction at buangkok, the little amenities is going to be insufficient.
Agent say 1 bed @ least 600k more expensive than la fiesta n Bartley ridge. If indeed true, midpt going to get a nice boost to their sales. Their 1 bed more efficient layout

Xan
18-05-13, 14:20
parc centros 3 bedder starts @ 850k, and it is 990sqft :tongue3:

After getting that kinda price for parc centros, don't even bother to look at other launches in north east, I.e la fiesta or jewel. Can't get that kinda price anymore.

tboonk
18-05-13, 14:33
Just back from show flat which was super packed.

With all the existing construction at buangkok, the little amenities is going to be insufficient.
Agent say 1 bed @ least 600k more expensive than la fiesta n Bartley ridge. If indeed true, midpt going to get a nice boost to their sales. Their 1 bed more efficient layout

Are they giving marble or or compressed marble or homogeneous tiles?

Kenshinto80
18-05-13, 14:39
Information I gotten from the show flat:

The price given was after VVIP discount.

The 2 bed room showroom is very small and the open concept kitchen is bad.

The 3 bed room and 4 bedroom are very decent...No marble use in this project..all are homo tiles and toilet using ceramic.

The psf for this project is averagely 1150-1200. even for PH, the psf is 1200 due to all PH are pool facing and unlike other project which the bigger the unit the lower the psf.

Kitchen are nicely done up with hiflux water sytem.

Overall....not bad if u getting the 3-4bedder.

2 bed room is the worse IMO.

Pricing not cheap. Good luck
Thanks Lemonlaw for the quick review. Was there a lot of people at the showflat? Has it opened for booking?

Kenshinto80
18-05-13, 14:40
Are they giving marble or or compressed marble or homogeneous tiles?
Refer Lemonlaw's review.

Xan
18-05-13, 14:44
Thanks Lemonlaw for the quick review. Was there a lot of people at the showflat? Has it opened for booking?

There's was quite a lot of people in show flat, but not those like parc centros type where you completely can't go in at all on the first day.

Drive past there just now but in the end decided not to go in.

propertyinvestor
18-05-13, 15:16
There's was quite a lot of people in show flat, but not those like parc centros type where you completely can't go in at all on the first day.

Drive past there just now but in the end decided not to go in.

Do we need to give a blank cheque to go inside the show flat? Thanks.

Lemonlaw
18-05-13, 16:35
Do we need to give a blank cheque to go inside the show flat? Thanks.

Don't need. On the 31 may will be the 1st day of sale. There will be a balloting exercise to choose your desire unit. Luck play a big part. Just need to fill in some forms, photocopy nric and blank cheque to register for the preview Vvip balloting sales.

NO_7
18-05-13, 17:12
Are the brochures ready?:D

yowetan
18-05-13, 17:15
Hi...I am keen to visit the showflat. Is the brochure ready for collection?

propertyinvestor
18-05-13, 17:21
Don't need. On the 31 may will be the 1st day of sale. There will be a balloting exercise to choose your desire unit. Luck play a big part. Just need to fill in some forms, photocopy nric and blank cheque to register for the preview Vvip balloting sales.

Thanks for your input. From your previous posting, look like psf is almost similar to The Quartz. Only thing is brand new, but have to wait for 3-4 years before can start to collect rental. :sleep:

Lemonlaw
18-05-13, 17:54
Are the brochures ready?:D

No. Not ready. I been to quite a few pre sales showflat. All no brochures.

CondoWE
18-05-13, 18:49
Hi...I am keen to visit the showflat. Is the brochure ready for collection?

Why so keen? Wait for the crash to come first la...:D :D :D !

NickySee
19-05-13, 01:39
So many pple? http://buangkokcondo.com/overwhelming-crowd-jewel-buangkok/

Lemonlaw
19-05-13, 09:00
With this type of pricing, I would say this project will still sell like hit cakes.

Is all voice down to the demand. :cheers6:

Just to give you guys a feel, I was there yesterday, almost every other tables the agent are helping the buyers to fill up forms using their NRIC.

It shows many people are still buying.

beepbeep
19-05-13, 09:32
Not so, other sizes in this project looks expensive too.
5 bedder 1.8 mil compared to parc centros 5 bedder at 1.5mil.

Parc Centros looked expensive compared to ATT ($880psf) and Watertown ($10xxpsf) when they first launch.
Parc Centros land was bidded $354psf/ppr and Jewel was bidded $508psf/ppr. Jewel will naturallly price higher than Parc Centros.
Not a fair comparison to compare the present and the past.

Eh
19-05-13, 10:21
Parc Centros looked expensive compared to ATT ($880psf) and Watertown ($10xxpsf) when they first launch.
Parc Centros land was bidded $354psf/ppr and Jewel was bidded $508psf/ppr. Jewel will naturallly price higher than Parc Centros.
Not a fair comparison to compare the present and the past.

Which brings me to another point. Kovan regency was $507 psf and they are selling $1.2 million for 3bedroom compact, $1.3 million for 3 bedroom premium and $1.7 million for 4 bedroom. So I think this project pricing is still acceptable in the current market.

Xan
19-05-13, 11:59
Parc Centros looked expensive compared to ATT ($880psf) and Watertown ($10xxpsf) when they first launch.
Parc Centros land was bidded $354psf/ppr and Jewel was bidded $508psf/ppr. Jewel will naturallly price higher than Parc Centros.
Not a fair comparison to compare the present and the past.

I would say ATT and PC are priced very similar but given the fact that PC comes with 1 bedder, the overall psf would seem to be higher. 3 bedder compact in PC can go as low as 840psf.
PC was launch ard last year August and jewel in this year may.
300k diff for both 5 bedders in jewel and PC is not justifiable to some within less than a year. Furthermore, PC 5 bedder is bigger than jewel 5 bedder and PC is nearer to a big mall. Just a simple comparison between the two since someone here mention PC. Ultimately, it's buyer's choice.

kane
19-05-13, 12:11
I would say ATT and PC are priced very similar but given the fact that PC comes with 1 bedder, the overall psf would seem to be higher. 3 bedder compact in PC can go as low as 840psf.
PC was launch ard last year August and jewel in this year may.
300k diff for both 5 bedders in jewel and PC is not justifiable to some within less than a year. Furthermore, PC 5 bedder is bigger than jewel 5 bedder and PC is nearer to a big mall. Just a simple comparison between the two since someone here mention PC. Ultimately, it's buyer's choice.

the thing is a lot of things have happened in the last 10 months. the market conditions feel very different. suddenly, the americans are feeling optimistic about their economy again. it may not be value for money but CDL won't be doing charity.

Xan
19-05-13, 12:23
the thing is a lot of things have happened in the last 10 months. the market conditions feel very different. suddenly, the americans are feeling optimistic about their economy again. it may not be value for money but CDL won't be doing charity.

Any sales update in jewel?
If sales in jewel was good, I will be very impressed.
This shows that despite substantial price difference within a year, ABSD, CMs, there's still no impact to price correction.
Our mr yowetan will be very very disappointed.

Xan
19-05-13, 12:41
the thing is a lot of things have happened in the last 10 months. the market conditions feel very different. suddenly, the americans are feeling optimistic about their economy again. it may not be value for money but CDL won't be doing charity.

Yes, and you have a point
And remember how many people laugh at WT buyers a year ago who bought 1 bedder at 10xxpsf during launch but in the end begin to accept la fiesta 1 bedder to be at 13xx psf. And I believe now a lot of people began to accept Jewel's price.

NO_7
19-05-13, 13:22
After every CM announced, all the condo price in D19 move to a new height. In the past all price dish out b4 Vvip was b4 discount but now they are after discounted price, plus the 7% ABSD ,+3% SD n 16% SSD.....

kane
19-05-13, 14:34
Yes, and you have a point
And remember how many people laugh at WT buyers a year ago who bought 1 bedder at 10xxpsf during launch but in the end begin to accept la fiesta 1 bedder to be at 13xx psf. And I believe now a lot of people began to accept Jewel's price.

Actually those buy WT at 1000-1150psf region was still ok. The mind boggling figure then was 1500psf... but many moons later, with Sennett Resi and Sant Ritz going at those prices, the 1500psf at Punggol appears less ridiculous now.

Kenshinto80
19-05-13, 15:47
Yes, and you have a point
And remember how many people laugh at WT buyers a year ago who bought 1 bedder at 10xxpsf during launch but in the end begin to accept la fiesta 1 bedder to be at 13xx psf. And I believe now a lot of people began to accept Jewel's price.
Hi Xan, exactly! Very well said. Those people were saying the folks buying Watertown very silly to pay even 900 plus psf during initial launch. Turns out the wiser ones were those who bought one year back and the actual real jewel.

Anyway, for both Kovan Regency and Jewel, they are playing the quantum game for the 2 to 3 bedders to still keep it affordable for the masses.

Kenshinto80
19-05-13, 15:51
Actually those buy WT at 1000-1150psf region was still ok. The mind boggling figure then was 1500psf... but many moons later, with Sennett Resi and Sant Ritz going at those prices, the 1500psf at Punggol appears less ridiculous now.
Hi Kane, it also made Sky Habitat at Bishan more reasonable and humane now....haha.

kane
19-05-13, 16:19
How are the sales figures so far at Sky Habitat?

NO_7
19-05-13, 22:13
I would expect the finishing close to Corals @ Keppel bay, at least it look more justifiable.

kane
20-05-13, 02:11
they need to be profitable rather than fully justifiable. :D

as buyers, we would hope they are fully justifiably giving us value for money.

azeoprop
23-05-13, 16:17
Went to take a look....it is just like any other run-of-the-mill mass market condo. It does not even have cdl's signature smart storage system or any sky gardens. Finishing so-so as well, with laminated flooring for bedrooms. Washer not included. :beats-me-man:

Do note that for the showflat of the 2 bedder, they just use the white tape on the floor to show that long passageway behind the main door. :doh:

Lemonlaw
23-05-13, 18:28
How many cheques have they collected till date? Any idea?

kane
23-05-13, 20:05
The blocks look really close from the model in the pics.

Lemonlaw
25-05-13, 10:24
My neighbour that went to the showflat yesterday told me that Jewel @ Buangkok had collected more than 650 cheques for PREVIEW BALLOTING to BUY.

:doh: WIth this price I foresee CM 8 coming soon...

taggy
25-05-13, 10:44
:doh: WIth this price I foresee CM 8 coming soon...


CDL plans Buangkok project launch next week (http://www.straitstimes.com/premium/money/story/cdl-plans-buangkok-project-launch-next-week-20130525)
616-unit Jewel @ Buangkok will have average selling price of $1,250 psf

CDL plans to market this project at an average selling price of $1,250 per sq ft (psf). It will give an early bird discount of 7 per cent at an average price of $1,150 psf.

Lemonlaw
25-05-13, 10:51
CDL plans Buangkok project launch next week (http://www.straitstimes.com/premium/money/story/cdl-plans-buangkok-project-launch-next-week-20130525)
616-unit Jewel @ Buangkok will have average selling price of $1,250 psf

CDL plans to market this project at an average selling price of $1,250 per sq ft (psf). It will give an early bird discount of 7 per cent at an average price of $1,150 psf.

That's a good news, prices moving up further in this area. La fiesta is going to thanks Jewel@buangkok big time. :cheers6:

mcmlxxvi
25-05-13, 11:40
thumbs up for Pets Cabin

mcmlxxvi
25-05-13, 11:41
Prices from 6xxk up.

kane
25-05-13, 15:11
Looks like wet market there, even on a hot market like this. With such a dazzling name like jewel, using laminated flooring for the bedrooms look like a real cheap shot. Otherwise it's pretty ok.

The other slight drawback is 2 rows of blocks are on lower ground. With the row nearest to MRT on higher ground.

Lemonlaw
25-05-13, 15:15
Looks like wet market there, even on a hot market like this. With such a dazzling name like jewel, using laminated flooring for the bedrooms look like a real cheap shot. Otherwise it's pretty ok.

The other slight drawback is 2 rows of blocks are on lower ground. With the row nearest to MRT on higher ground.

You been to the showflat? Alot of my neighours had placed cheque for this project.

I asked them why since the price is above 1150psf.

They said " If now we don't get in at 1150psf near mrt, next time prices will still be higher for a near MRT project"

kane
25-05-13, 15:23
You been to the showflat? Alot of my neighours had placed cheque for this project.

I asked them why since the price is above 1150psf.

They said " If now we don't get in at 1150psf near mrt, next time prices will still be higher for a near MRT project"

Yeah, just went. Although i prefer the finishing of tuan sing's sennett, this is about $300psf cheaper. So they may not be completely out of point...

snoopy
26-05-13, 19:25
Just passby the showroom, at 7.15pm, the show flat still open with people viewing.


Is the project already opened for Sale?


QUOTE=kane]Yeah, just went. Although i prefer the finishing of tuan sing's sennett, this is about $300psf cheaper. So they may not be completely out of point...[/QUOTE]

viceroy
26-05-13, 20:50
The preview is on next thur or fri.. minimum 618k for 1 br.. no further discount as per my agent on tat day ...

kane
26-05-13, 22:04
go orchard shop got traffic jam, maybe that's why people are shopping here instead.

Reuben
27-05-13, 17:02
Jewel in terms of layout is much better than La Fiesta. I am refering to the 3 bedroom premium. The only drawback of this project is the maintenance fee. $400 for a 3 bedder. This is certainly a drawback for those who looking to rent out.

Lemonlaw
27-05-13, 17:14
Jewel in terms of layout is much better than La Fiesta. I am refering to the 3 bedroom premium. The only drawback of this project is the maintenance fee. $400 for a 3 bedder. This is certainly a drawback for those who looking to rent out.


WAH..400 for a 3bedder?crazy....

eric76
27-05-13, 21:56
Is the VVIP disc really only for preview period? or u still can bargin it after this period, newbie question....

Lemonlaw
27-05-13, 22:53
Is the VVIP disc really only for preview period? or u still can bargin it after this period, newbie question....


you want to bargain with CDL?? You think possible?

They already gotten more than 650 cheques, they are already in upper hand...is a take it or leave it case.

yowetan
27-05-13, 22:55
you want to bargain with CDL?? You think possible?

They already gotten more than 650 cheques, they are already in upper hand...is a take it or leave it case.

I hope tomorrow stock market a big crash.

Today STI is still in the red. Hope tonight dow jones and Nasdaq follow suit.

It will help to wake up the developers.

princess_morbucks
27-05-13, 23:00
I hope tomorrow stock market a big crash.

Today STI is still in the red. Hope tonight dow jones and Nasdaq follow suit.

It will help to wake up the developers.


US market is closed today for Memorial Day.

yowetan
27-05-13, 23:03
US market is closed today for Memorial Day.

Oh...I am disappointed.

Lemonlaw
28-05-13, 09:29
I hope tomorrow stock market a big crash.

Today STI is still in the red. Hope tonight dow jones and Nasdaq follow suit.

It will help to wake up the developers.

I hope so too, I been waiting on the fence for very long. If no crash, I have no opportunity. :cheers6:

Lemonlaw
28-05-13, 11:27
The VVIP SALES balloting will start on 1 June 2013.

viceroy
28-05-13, 12:37
Is there a mosque nearby? Agent says friday prayer, carpark may be full. Hence, change to sat. Tink will be crowded then ...

Lemonlaw
28-05-13, 12:52
Is there a mosque nearby? Agent says friday prayer, carpark may be full. Hence, change to sat. Tink will be crowded then ...

Yes, beside esparina.

darkseed73
28-05-13, 14:12
Yes, beside esparina.

no, besides "Compassvale Helm".

This piece of land very special they place Condo, EC, HDB side by side.

Of course HDB will absorb the mosq and sub-station.

NO_7
28-05-13, 18:05
they need to be profitable rather than fully justifiable. :D

as buyers, we would hope they are fully justifiably giving us value for money.
Sadly those stone finishing doesn't cost much as compare to the purchase price rite.

kane
28-05-13, 18:57
I didn't even notice any stone finishing. The laminate flooring in the rooms got my attention. I thought that was really cheapo.

eric76
28-05-13, 23:04
I didn't even notice any stone finishing. The laminate flooring in the rooms got my attention. I thought that was really cheapo.
went to the show room today, the 4 room type layout is really fantastic, only the dinning and living a bit squeezed, finishes are so so as compare to the price

yowetan
28-05-13, 23:16
Hi...I like to "speculate" this development.

Is this a better one for speculation, or La Fiesta or The Stratum? TIA.

Home Lover
28-05-13, 23:24
Hi...I like to "speculate" this development.

Is this a better one for speculation, or La Fiesta or The Stratum? TIA.

IMHO Stratum is the best in terms of finishing (marble and timber strip) whereas the other two is homo & laminated but location not as good (3 bus stop from MRT)

yowetan
28-05-13, 23:26
IMHO Stratum is the best in terms of finishing (marble and timber strip) whereas the other two is homo & laminated but location not as good (3 bus stop from MRT)

Hi...how about price positioning?

Home Lover
28-05-13, 23:33
Hi...how about price positioning?

Stratum should be better value for money.

kane
28-05-13, 23:44
went to the show room today, the 4 room type layout is really fantastic, only the dinning and living a bit squeezed, finishes are so so as compare to the price

The 4 room layout quite typical no?

darkseed73
29-05-13, 15:27
Stratum should be better value for money.

I have to disagree.

Housing is all abt Location, location, location.

Some of the bros here says b4 even when the market crush and hard times comes location is still the key selling point for any housing.

Interior can always be fixed but a good location is hard to come by.

La Fiesta and Jewel cannot be compare with Stratum - sorry if that offends you.

Lemonlaw
29-05-13, 16:01
I have to disagree.

Housing is all abt Location, location, location.

Some of the bros here says b4 even when the market crush and hard times comes location is still the key selling point for any housing.

Interior can always be fixed but a good location is hard to come by.

La Fiesta and Jewel cannot be compare with Stratum - sorry if that offends you.

I love to disagree with your statement BUT, I have to AGREE. :cheers4:

Next to MRT and 1km from MRT is a great deal of difference in property prices.

If want to compare, compare apple to apple not apple to pear or lew lian.

Unfair comparison leh. :cheers5:

LiveYoung
29-05-13, 16:23
I have to disagree.

Housing is all abt Location, location, location.

Some of the bros here says b4 even when the market crush and hard times comes location is still the key selling point for any housing.

Interior can always be fixed but a good location is hard to come by.

La Fiesta and Jewel cannot be compare with Stratum - sorry if that offends you.

Location is a very subjective and broad matter. Here I assume you try to link distance to mrt with convenience. If only looking at distance to mrt, Stratum is definitely out of the game as it's still 2 bus stops away from Pasir Ris mrt whereas the other two are mins walk to MRT. However, in terms of convenience, would a family relying on mrt as their primary mean of transportation buy a house at LF or Jewel if they work/study at east area? Most probably not. So distance to mrt does not necessarily come with absolute convenience. And Stratum's affordability explain why it sells well so far. My guess is that it appeals v much to those HDB upgraders stay in the east region and those who still want to invest at this uncertain period while try to minimise the downturn risk via buying lower psf development.

For pure discussion purpose, let's just put a bit weight of family leisure life onto the location topic. Stratum as far as I know is 8-10 mins walk to the Pasir Ris Park/seaside and 8-10 mins bus drive to Downtown east. And there is always people who seek for tranquility after everyday work/study. Surroundings of Stratum is not that crowded as compared to Senkang and the future Buangkok. On top of that, a plot ratio of 1.4(need verification) condo is hardly found for development under 1000psf nowadays. So which one is better in terms of location? It's everybody's own call.

darkseed73
29-05-13, 17:40
Location is a very subjective and broad matter. Here I assume you try to link distance to mrt with convenience. If only looking at distance to mrt, Stratum is definitely out of the game as it's still 2 bus stops away from Pasir Ris mrt whereas the other two are mins walk to MRT. However, in terms of convenience, would a family relying on mrt as their primary mean of transportation buy a house at LF or Jewel if they work/study at east area? Most probably not. So distance to mrt does not necessarily come with absolute convenience. And Stratum's affordability explain why it sells well so far. My guess is that it appeals v much to those HDB upgraders stay in the east region and those who still want to invest at this uncertain period while try to minimise the downturn risk via buying lower psf development.

For pure discussion purpose, let's just put a bit weight of family leisure life onto the location topic. Stratum as far as I know is 8-10 mins walk to the Pasir Ris Park/seaside and 8-10 mins bus drive to Downtown east. And there is always people who seek for tranquility after everyday work/study. Surroundings of Stratum is not that crowded as compared to Senkang and the future Buangkok. On top of that, a plot ratio of 1.4(need verification) condo is hardly found for development under 1000psf nowadays. So which one is better in terms of location? It's everybody's own call.

You can argue till cow come home and I don't want to explain the term "speculation" but to me Jewel and La Fiesta is total different ball game and selling point from Stratum. And when ppl say "Stratrum is better value" I have to state facts and disagree.

If u are talking abt personal preference - there is really nothing to argue abt.

But for sure Stratrum is not meant for "SPECULATION".