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mr funny
05-07-10, 18:28
http://www.businesstimes.com.sg/sub/news/story/0,4574,393144-1278100740,00.html?

Published July 2, 2010

Private home prices outstrip peak of '96

But govt cooling measures expected to mitigate hikes; resale HDB prices continue to climb

By UMA SHANKARI


(SINGAPORE) Private home prices in Singapore have now surpassed the former all-time peak they achieved in 1996, official data shows.

Flash estimates released yesterday said that private home prices in Singapore rose 5.2 per cent in Q2 2010 after climbing 5.6 per cent in the first three months of the year.

This brings the Urban Redevelopment Authority's (URA) price index for private residential property to 184.1 points - 1.5 per cent higher than the previous pre-Asian crisis peak of 181.4 points in Q2 1996.

Prices of resale HDB flats also continued to climb and set another record in the second quarter. Resale prices rose a steeper 3.8 per cent in Q2, higher than the 2.8 per cent climb seen in Q1.

For the private residential market, homes in the 'outside central region' (a proxy for suburban mass- market locations) led the price increase with a 5.7 per cent quarter-on-quarter climb in Q2.

Prices in the 'core central region' (which includes the prime Districts 9 and 10, the financial district and Sentosa Cove) rose 5.1 per cent while prices in the 'rest of central region' rose 4.5 per cent.

Home prices in the outside central region and rest of central region are higher than they were during the recent 2008 peaks. But prices in the high-end core central region are still about 2 per cent below the 2008 peak.

While prices climbed across all three regions, analysts pointed out that recent government measures to cool the market have worked to some extent as the price growth has now slowed down for three consecutive quarters - although the deceleration in growth has been slower than what was hoped for, particularly in the mass- market segment.

'There will be a time lag before we will see a more moderate increase in prices,' said Knight Frank chairman Tan Tiong Cheng. 'The market has been positive but the government has mitigated this by providing a lot of land. But the supply needs some time to come onto the market.'

There is also increasing price resistance, as demonstrated by the more than 50 per cent drop in sales of new homes in May. This should help to further moderate price increases - especially in the mass-market segment - to within 5 per cent for each of the next two quarters, said Tay Huey Ying, Colliers International's director of research and advisory.

Jones Lang LaSalle's head of research for South-east Asia, Chua Yang Liang, added: 'Overall, the falling sales volume in both primary and secondary markets suggests that the overall URA property price index, a lagging indicator of demand, may soften in the next few months.'

Developers sold just 1,078 private homes in May - about half the 2,208 units they transacted in April.

Analysts also said that further anti-speculation measures are unlikely as prices in the primary market, which are thought to be a better reflection of current market sentiment, are pointing towards a slowdown. Most analysts expect private home prices to rise a total of 12-15 per cent for the whole of 2010.

But for the HDB resale market, it is a very different story. The rate of price growth seems to be increasing.

Eugene Lim, associate director of ERA Asia-Pacific, pointed out that on average, HDB resale prices are increasing at a rate of 3.3 per cent per quarter this year, compared to just 2 per cent per quarter last year.

The 3.8 per cent increase in prices in Q2 to another new high can be attributed to higher cash- over-valuation (COV) amounts, industry players said.

'Our Q2 2010 transactions show a median COV of $30,000 for all flat types across all estates, while HDB's Q1 2010 results showed an overall median COV of $25,000,' said PropNex chief executive Mohamed Ismail.

ERA's transactions also show that the median COV has increased across all flat types. For three-room flats, the median COV is now $29,000 compared to $22,000 in Q1; four-room flats $32,000 ($25,000 in Q1); five-room flats $36,000 ($28,000); and executive flats $40,000 ($30,000).

HDB on Wednesday said it has launched 2,696 new build-to-order (BTO) flats to ensure that there is an adequate supply of new flats to meet housing demand - the largest number of such flats ever offered at one go.

But this might not satisfy demand from all corners.

'Though HDB has increased the supply of new flats, these cater predominantly to the first-timers and those who can wait three years for these new flats to be built,' said ERA's Mr Lim.

'For upgraders, permanent residents and those who have immediate housing needs, the resale market is the only source.'

He expects HDB resale prices to increase 12-15 per cent for the whole year.

http://www.businesstimes.com.sg/mnt/media/image/launched/2010-07-02/BT_IMAGES_UMINDEX2.jpg

mr funny
05-07-10, 19:29
http://www.straitstimes.com/PrimeNews/Story/STIStory_548397.html

Jul 2, 2010

Prices of private homes hit new peak

Experts expect more rises this year but at a slower rate

By Joyce Teo


PRIVATE home prices in Singapore are now at their highest level ever, eclipsing even the previous 1996 peak.

Official estimates show prices rose a higher-than-expected 5.2 per cent in the second quarter after a 5.6 per cent jump in the first. That means private home prices have risen 11.1 per cent so far this year.

Prices, now 1.5 per cent above the 1996 high, are expected to continue to edge up this year given the positive economic outlook, property experts forecast.

But the rises should moderate as the market is no longer feverish, having slowed to a more sustainable level with many more sites on the way, they said.

CB Richard Ellis' executive director, residential, Mr Joseph Tan, said the ample supply of residential land to be released by the Government will ensure a more stable supply in the longer term. 'As sales momentum becomes less frenzied, home prices will stabilise,' he said.

The Government has lined up a record amount of land for sale in the second half of the year and yesterday released three sites for sale.

One is an executive condominium site in Jurong West which can yield about 460 units. The other two sites are in Miltonia Close and Bedok Town Centre. Together, they can yield about 1,300 homes.

Other data out yesterday showed that Housing Board resale prices rose 3.8 per cent to a new record high in the same period, giving strong support to 'mass market' private homes - generally the less expensive private homes. This came after HDB this week offered 2,696 build-to-order flats in its largest ever single launch.

In the private mass market, buyers such as HDB upgraders are increasingly reluctant to pay sky-high prices, noted Colliers International's director of research and advisory, Ms Tay Huey Ying.

Preliminary estimates released yesterday by the Urban Redevelopment Authority (URA) showed that mass market non- landed private homes rose at a faster clip of 5.7 per cent to a new high, compared with 4.3 per cent in the first quarter.

These prices are now a hefty 14.2 per cent above the previous 2008 peak.

Mr Tan said this could be attributed to higher price levels set at new launches such as Tree House and The Minton, as well as rising prices of resale deals in areas where several government sites had been sold in the past six to nine months.

In central Singapore, non-landed home prices moved up 5.1 per cent, from 4.4 per cent in the first quarter. It was only in city fringe areas that prices of non-landed homes rose at a slower 4.5 per cent, compared with a furious 7.9 per cent first-quarter jump.

'Individual sellers on the resale front, especially those who had bought their properties before the 2007 boom, are now making capital gains in the region of 80-90 per cent,' noted ERA Asia Pacific associate director Eugene Lim.

Since late May, there has been a sales slowdown owing to the euro zone crisis, a lacklustre stock market and high asking prices, but home prices have generally remained firm. Sales of new, private homes halved to 1,078 units in May, from April.

Mr Lim said developers are unlikely to cut prices for new launches to sell more units as most have strong balance sheets.

Still, the slower sales will affect sentiment, said Cushman and Wakefield managing director Donald Han. The pace of price rises will slow down with the resale market first to be hit. The full effects will be felt from this quarter, he said.

For the whole year, property experts are mostly looking at price increases of about 15 per cent. Estimates range from 12 per cent to as much as 20 per cent.

'After the football World Cup season, people will look at whether the West is coping well and Singapore's economic growth and policies. Economists revising higher their growth estimates means that prices are likely to rise,' said Knight Frank chairman Tan Tiong Cheng.

'On the other hand, ample supply has translated to developers being more selective in bidding for sites. Land costs would come off and that would mitigate price rises six months down the road.'

Looking further ahead, Ngee Ann Polytechnic real estate lecturer Nicholas Mak said the risk of a price correction could grow if uncertainties in global financial markets hurt market sentiment, and if the large impending supply of government land leads to a private home glut.

URA will update its second quarter price data in four weeks.

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jlrx
06-07-10, 00:12
Will history repeat itself?

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Business Times 27 April 2010

S’pore property market may be near peak

(SINGAPORE) The rising prices seen in the local property market are unlikely to come down anytime soon, even though the market might be near its peak, said CIMB-GK economist Song Seng Wun at a panel discussion on Singapore's building and construction industry.
Speaking at the graduation ceremony of a three-month course for professionals in the building and construction industry at the Singapore Management University (SMU), Mr Song said that the low interest rate environment, combined with the view that property is an asset class that can be leveraged upon, may continue to keep prices up.
'And if you take the view that it doesn't look like (interest) rates are going to go up anytime soon this year - and even if rates go up it is going up in an environment where there is growth opportunity and growth momentum - any tightening at this point will be accompanied by strong growth,' he said.
Also pushing up prices are increases in demand from both local and foreign buyers, added Mr Song.
However, the market might be near its peak, if historical data is anything to go by.
The year-on-year increase at this juncture, said Mr Song, has hit 30 per cent.
'I notice that when we get to a point where property prices year-on-year start to reach the region of 30-40 per cent, it tends to signal the peak of the market over previous cycles, so we are nearly there in terms of year-on-year numbers,' said Mr Song.
The panel discussion - which included panellists such as Keppel Land group chief executive Kevin Wong, WingTai Asia's property director Chng Chee Beow and City Developments Ltd's deputy general manager for design and projects Anthony Chia - also touched on growth in Asia, with all the developers on the panel expressing an interest to expand within the region.
Keppel Land, for one, is looking to have 50 per cent of its earnings coming from overseas markets, said Mr Wong.
Keppel Land's earnings from overseas in FY2009 represented about 31 per cent of its attributable profit.
But venturing overseas is not easy, and to turn into a successful global entity, it is important to know the target market, said Mr Chia.
'There is very little shortcut to that and that's how tough it is in some of these foreign markets . . . it's all about culture, it's all about people and understanding the market.'

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Regulators
06-07-10, 01:17
i think a few more banks should go bust...i will cheong full steam to buy when prices dip to 09 levels again....

mcmlxxvi
06-07-10, 09:07
http://www.businesstimes.com.sg/sub/news/story/0,4574,393144-1278100740,00.html?

He expects HDB resale prices to increase 12-15 per cent for the whole year.

http://www.businesstimes.com.sg/mnt/media/image/launched/2010-07-02/BT_IMAGES_UMINDEX2.jpg

From the above graphs it is obvious which one needs more govt intervention. Instead of stepping in to private prices govt should do more to clamp down on HDB absurd COV's etc.

devilplate
06-07-10, 10:12
i think a few more banks should go bust...i will cheong full steam to buy when prices dip to 09 levels again....

u mean prices will dip to bottom of 09? y u tink so?

DC33_2008
06-07-10, 11:03
u mean prices will dip to bottom of 09? y u tink so?

It's unlikely. We are going through a volatile period. Can buy some gold and stocks when there is a dip for people who can hold for 6-9 months - from the ehief economist of a foreign bank.

Regulators
06-07-10, 13:46
pty is cyclical mah...the current run up i think is fueled by the coming election. current highs have already surpassed 1996/7 and prices are historical now. when election over, i think the market should correct. i wont say it will dip to bottom of 09, but a correction is impending.


u mean prices will dip to bottom of 09? y u tink so?

Rysk
06-07-10, 15:10
i think a few more banks should go bust...i will cheong full steam to buy when prices dip to 09 levels again....

Why need to cheong full steam leh...
You forgot or no sure whether to buy when during Q1/Q2 2009 hah?? :D

gfoo
06-07-10, 15:53
market won't crash. buy more before it's too late, and since interest rates are so low, make sure borrow to the hilt to maximize dollars.

:)

bargain hunter
06-07-10, 16:47
hahaha...woohoo! :D


market won't crash. buy more before it's too late, and since interest rates are so low, make sure borrow to the hilt to maximize dollars.

:)

gfoo
06-07-10, 16:59
hahaha...woohoo! :D

it's true. mm units are so cheap quantum wise, regardless of psf. so buy now before prices increase. come TOP confirm can rent out as there is so much foreign talent still coming in, and they will be hungry to rent all over the island, even geylang. hdb prices will never fall even tho tens if thousands of supply is coming onstream - look at all the ballots - so mass market will continue to be supported by an unending profit stream from upgraders. not to mention mrt stations once announced it'll truly increase property prices by 50%!

devilplate
06-07-10, 17:56
WOWWWWWWWWW

another 50% increase fromhere b4 crash?:tongue3:

azeoprop
06-07-10, 18:54
What was the exact cause of the standstill in property prices in 2002 to 2006? Too much excess empty hdb flats lying around? :beats-me-man:

focus
06-07-10, 20:24
wow.. gfoo very bullish.. dare to borrow to the max..

So now should buy mass market or move up next level to prime?

scsc
06-07-10, 20:39
What was the exact cause of the standstill in property prices in 2002 to 2006? Too much excess empty hdb flats lying around? :beats-me-man:

Ya man... The thoughts of excess HDB lying in Jurong West Extension or Fernvale then still lingers in my mind...:scared-5:

gfoo
06-07-10, 20:41
wow.. gfoo very bullish.. dare to borrow to the max..

So now should buy mass market or move up next level to prime?

buy mass market - affordable!!! prime useless lah. mass market got angelina jolie and brad pitt. prime got no facilities

proud owner
06-07-10, 20:50
buy mass market - affordable!!! prime useless lah. mass market got angelina jolie and brad pitt. prime got no facilities


hahaha walau eh ...bro

i hope people truly understand what you are saying ....ahhahah

azeoprop
06-07-10, 21:03
Just wondering what can the Fed do if the economy fails to recover even with such ultra low interest rates? :beats-me-man:

gfoo
06-07-10, 21:11
hahaha walau eh ...bro

i hope people truly understand what you are saying ....ahhahah

this type of analysis i don't even have to create anything new. just cut and paste other people's posts from the various threads on this forum.

Here's are some from the middle of nowhere in serangoon:
"Location is good except simple amenities"; "size small but location pretty ok"

Here's another one close to geylang:
"I believed it is still lacking behind its full potential!!"

The best thing is geylang "whole row of mishmash of religious houses and huay kuans including a myriad of churches, chapels, tibetan temples, associations", plus all the china foreign talent walking about downstairs, priced at $1100, and people buy.

but because it's "Mins from Kallang Sports Hub. Mins from Paya Lebar Commercial Hub. Direct access to Nicoll Highway & CBD. Close to 24 hour food outlets" that's why it's undervalued!

buy buy buy, borrow to the hilt!

jlrx
06-07-10, 21:42
it's true. mm units are so cheap quantum wise, regardless of psf. so buy now before prices increase. come TOP confirm can rent out as there is so much foreign talent still coming in, and they will be hungry to rent all over the island, even geylang. hdb prices will never fall even tho tens if thousands of supply is coming onstream - look at all the ballots - so mass market will continue to be supported by an unending profit stream from upgraders. not to mention mrt stations once announced it'll truly increase property prices by 50%!
WOWWWWWWWWW

another 50% increase fromhere b4 crash?:tongue3:

The previous bullrun from July 1990 to May 1996 took the index from 56.4 to 181.4 (up 220%) before crashing to 100 points in Nov 1998 (down 45%).

If history repeats itself, gfoo will be able to sell (although I've never recommended selling properties in the first place) his Sail@Marina at $10,000 psf in May 2016 and buy it back at $5,500 psf in Nov 2018. :scared-4:

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn211/jlrx_bucket/PropertyPriceCooling.jpg

gfoo
06-07-10, 21:48
completely agree w you - i'll never sell.
neither should anyone.
just buy.

cashrich
06-07-10, 21:58
this type of analysis i don't even have to create anything new. just cut and paste other people's posts from the various threads on this forum.

Here's are some from the middle of nowhere in serangoon:
"Location is good except simple amenities"; "size small but location pretty ok"



Quoted me! Location pretty ok only in terms of proximity to MRT station. Not really ok if using other criteria.

Even location is ok, price is not ok to many..

The only analysis that you need to know is buy when the transaction volume is low. Sell when the transaction volume is high. Not need guru.

jlrx
07-07-10, 00:19
completely agree w you - i'll never sell.
neither should anyone.
just buy.

PROPERTISM! :cheers1:


Quoted me! Location pretty ok only in terms of proximity to MRT station. Not really ok if using other criteria.

Even location is ok, price is not ok to many..

The only analysis that you need to know is buy when the transaction volume is low. Sell when the transaction volume is high. Not need guru.

Wrong.

It shoud be "Buy when the transaction volume is low. Buy when the transaction volume is high".

PROPERTISM Rule No. 1 - Property prices always go up in the long term hence properties should only be bought and not sold.

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn211/jlrx_bucket/AmberPointSells88ApartmentsInOneDay.jpg

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn211/jlrx_bucket/PropertyMarketBreaksAllTimeHigh2.jpg

devilplate
07-07-10, 00:27
ppty prices is not gg to up by 50% b4 next crash anymore....too conservative....its gona be another 220% jump from here!:p

Regulators
07-07-10, 00:34
wah...ur tune change a lot from last time liao.....last time ascentia sky and centro at 1200psf seems unbelievable to many here and it seems investors here are all changing the tune.....i for one will still never pay over 1k psf for places like jurong or yishun.


completely agree w you - i'll never sell.
neither should anyone.
just buy.

devilplate
07-07-10, 00:41
but come to tink about it...in the 80s....nobody wud expect prices to increase so many folds in 20 over yrs time:D

proud owner
07-07-10, 00:45
but come to tink about it...in the 80s....nobody wud expect prices to increase so many folds in 20 over yrs time:D

in the 80's the biggest worry was HOW TO PASS MY IPPT ..

where got time and energy to think property ?

give me a tree with shade i also can sleep there

Regulators
07-07-10, 04:34
wah...u do army ippt in the 80s? if that is the case, i am more than 10 yrs ur junior




in the 80's the biggest worry was HOW TO PASS MY IPPT ..

where got time and energy to think property ?

give me a tree with shade i also can sleep there

Regulators
07-07-10, 04:35
i was still playing marbles and riding on school buses in the 80s

proud owner
07-07-10, 04:39
i was still playing marbles and riding on school buses in the 80s


hahahah

you rich kid different lah .. i poor kid .. couldnt even afford marbles


ever heard :

boys from rich families play with toys ..

boys from poor families play with their 'own toys' ..


i was a happy boy

jlrx
07-07-10, 04:41
completely agree w you - i'll never sell.
neither should anyone.
just buy.
wah...ur tune change a lot from last time liao.....last time ascentia sky and centro at 1200psf seems unbelievable to many here and it seems investors here are all changing the tune.....i for one will still never pay over 1k psf for places like jurong or yishun.

gfoo is not the only one to change his tune.

Look at this well-known aesthetic doctor below. Last time when Sentosa Cove was launched at $260 psf to $456 psf, he "didn't believe in it". Now he has "willingly paid $2,016 psf". :doh:

It seems that the more expensive properties get, the cheaper they become!

Hence what the Government should do to make properties more affordable is to raise it's price.

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn211/jlrx_bucket/DrGohSengHengSentosaCove.jpg

Goh Seng Heng, a well-known aesthetic doctor, was sceptical about Sentosa Cove when the first bungalow plots at the super-luxury enclave were being marketed back in December 2003. Prices then were from $260 to $456 psf. "At the time, I didn't believe in it," he admits. Seven years on, the dapper 54-year-old has willing paid $2,016 psf, or $13.68 million, for a newly completed bungalow designed by renowned Sentosa Cove architect Robert Greg Shand, who has designed eight completed bungalows on the island to date.

proud owner
07-07-10, 04:48
gfoo is not the only one to change his tune.

Look at this well-known aesthetic doctor below. Last time when Sentosa Cove was launched at $260 psf to $456 psf, he "didn't believe in it". Now he has "willingly paid $2,016 psf". :doh:

It seems that the more expensive properties get, the cheaper they become!

Hence what the Government should do to make properties more affordable is to raise it's price.

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn211/jlrx_bucket/DrGohSengHengSentosaCove.jpg

Goh Seng Heng, a well-known aesthetic doctor, was sceptical about Sentosa Cove when the first bungalow plots at the super-luxury enclave were being marketed back in December 2003. Prices then were from $260 to $456 psf. "At the time, I didn't believe in it," he admits. Seven years on, the dapper 54-year-old has willing paid $2,016 psf, or $13.68 million, for a newly completed bungalow designed by renowned Sentosa Cove architect Robert Greg Shand, who has designed eight completed bungalows on the island to date.



cantonese calls this 溅

last time my friend sells some hand made stuff at the flea mkt .. sell cheap .. no business ..

next day he raised the price .. knn ... sold out ..

gfoo
07-07-10, 09:53
wah...ur tune change a lot from last time liao.....last time ascentia sky and centro at 1200psf seems unbelievable to many here and it seems investors here are all changing the tune.....i for one will still never pay over 1k psf for places like jurong or yishun.

same tune different falsetto

jlrx
07-07-10, 11:57
cantonese calls this 溅

last time my friend sells some hand made stuff at the flea mkt .. sell cheap .. no business ..

next day he raised the price .. knn ... sold out ..

When it comes to properties, everyone is 溅.

When prices go down, everyone wants to "wait and see"; when prices go up, everyone rushes to buy.

The above article makes me realise something: other than Property_Owner who owns 40+ properties, UHNWI like the Dr Goh above are missing from this forum! :scared-4:

There're hardly any posts in the Sentosa Cove and Orchard Residences threads other than irrelevant comments from people like me talking rubbish but not actually buying.

bargain hunter
07-07-10, 12:06
of course. not many UHNWI like Property_Owner take life easy and has time to contribute to our forum. :) should have many of the 80,000 HNWI among us though. :D


When it comes to properties, everyone is 溅.

When prices go down, everyone wants to "wait and see"; when prices go up, everyone rushes to buy.

The above article makes me realise something: other than Property_Owner who owns 40+ properties, UHNWI like the Dr Goh above are missing from this forum! :scared-4:

There're hardly any posts in the Sentosa Cove and Orchard Residences threads other than irrelevant comments from people like me talking rubbish but not actually buying.

bargain hunter
07-07-10, 12:06
repeat post deleted

focus
07-07-10, 13:57
gfoo is not the only one to change his tune.

Look at this well-known aesthetic doctor below. Last time when Sentosa Cove was launched at $260 psf to $456 psf, he "didn't believe in it". Now he has "willingly paid $2,016 psf". :doh:



What was the FH psf price of prime properties then in 2003?
Looking back, the price range of 260-456 does indeed look ridicoulously cheap.

That Clemen Chiang (the "options master" who retired thanks to funding from his students) bought into it in 2004-2005 right? That guy may not be good at options but he definitely good in properties. Maybe he should conduct course in property.

bargain hunter
07-07-10, 15:15
but 260 to 456psf is raw land price or with built up bunglow included? i had the impression its the raw land price. funny how even "the edge" is not comparing apples with apples if that's the case.

well, clemen chiang was funded by his students, so could afford the downpayment and maybe he assumed his growing income stream will pay for the rest? now that he has really been retired by his students, has he sold his bunglow? hehehe. i ever read an article some time after the peak in 2007, in BT, where he specifically recommended properties in sentosa and duchess area. i presumed he is stuck with one or more units at duchess residences as well. LOL.


What was the FH psf price of prime properties then in 2003?
Looking back, the price range of 260-456 does indeed look ridicoulously cheap.

That Clemen Chiang (the "options master" who retired thanks to funding from his students) bought into it in 2004-2005 right? That guy may not be good at options but he definitely good in properties. Maybe he should conduct course in property.

bargain hunter
07-07-10, 15:40
didn't manage to find the clemen chiang article but managed to find this hilarious analysis from BT published on 25th June 2007. anyone still thinks he should switch to conducting property investment courses? :D


THE property market is indeed flying.
Private residential property transactions with caveats lodged revealed higher transacted prices for districts 4, 9, 10, 11 and 15. These are the prime moving districts now, and I believe there is still a lot of room for prices to move up. Why? For every key event listed below, I expect an above-average movement of $100 per square foot in the districts mentioned to move alongside in the following years:
1. Year 2008 – First in the world! F1 night racing is coming to Singapore. The world will get invited to Singapore, interact with Singapore and invest in Singapore.
2. Year 2009 – First integrated resort to be completed with US$5 billion flowing into Singapore filled with the first wave of tourists which include participants in the Business Travel, Meetings, Incentives, Conventions and Exhibitions (BTMICE).
3. Year 2010 – Second integrated resort to be completed, with another US$5 billion flowing into Singapore filled with the second wave of tourists coming from destinations beyond the nine-hour flight radius of Singapore.
4. Year 2011 – General Election in Singapore: the government will introduce goodies to cultivate goodwill amongst voters to elect the next generation of leaders.
5. Year 2015 – Singapore celebrates her 50th birthday, which will fulfill our Prime Minister’s vision for Singapore to become the jewel of the region.
If not now, then when? If not us, then who? Let’s do our best to keep the property market flying high!
- Clemen Chiang CEO Freely Business School

focus
07-07-10, 17:47
didn't manage to find the clemen chiang article but managed to find this hilarious analysis from BT published on 25th June 2007. anyone still thinks he should switch to conducting property investment courses? :D


THE property market is indeed flying.
Private residential property transactions with caveats lodged revealed higher transacted prices for districts 4, 9, 10, 11 and 15. These are the prime moving districts now, and I believe there is still a lot of room for prices to move up. Why? For every key event listed below, I expect an above-average movement of $100 per square foot in the districts mentioned to move alongside in the following years:
1. Year 2008 – First in the world! F1 night racing is coming to Singapore. The world will get invited to Singapore, interact with Singapore and invest in Singapore.
2. Year 2009 – First integrated resort to be completed with US$5 billion flowing into Singapore filled with the first wave of tourists which include participants in the Business Travel, Meetings, Incentives, Conventions and Exhibitions (BTMICE).
3. Year 2010 – Second integrated resort to be completed, with another US$5 billion flowing into Singapore filled with the second wave of tourists coming from destinations beyond the nine-hour flight radius of Singapore.
4. Year 2011 – General Election in Singapore: the government will introduce goodies to cultivate goodwill amongst voters to elect the next generation of leaders.
5. Year 2015 – Singapore celebrates her 50th birthday, which will fulfill our Prime Minister’s vision for Singapore to become the jewel of the region.
If not now, then when? If not us, then who? Let’s do our best to keep the property market flying high!
- Clemen Chiang CEO Freely Business School

Haha. :) He's correct leh.. $100psf per year .. see property in D15, from $800-900psf till now $1300-1500psf.

But then again, I think I already found all the course pointers in this forum. I never believed in trainers .. we only enriched them.

bargain hunter
07-07-10, 19:53
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bargain hunter
07-07-10, 19:55
but his analysis and the way he writes is so hilarious.

yeah, neither do i believe in these trainers who advertise all over the newspapers.


Haha. :) He's correct leh.. $100psf per year .. see property in D15, from $800-900psf till now $1300-1500psf.

But then again, I think I already found all the course pointers in this forum. I never believed in trainers .. we only enriched them.

devilplate
07-07-10, 20:40
some of the trainers not bad.

their strategies and methodology in investment worth listening

boils down to the basic fundamental: asset vs liability....do u fully understand both of them?:D

jlrx
07-07-10, 22:10
of course. not many UHNWI like Property_Owner take life easy and has time to contribute to our forum. :) should have many of the 80,000 HNWI among us though. :D

I think everyone here is minimum a HNWI ($500,000) if not how to buy a condo?

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn211/jlrx_bucket/HNWICategories.jpg

bargain hunter
07-07-10, 22:16
the definition of a HNWI is $1m in investible assets excluding the home they are staying in. that's how they accounted for the 80,000 millionaires in singapore. but i have forgotten is it S$ or US$. 500k want to be called HNWI?! :tsk-tsk:


I think everyone here is minimum a HNWI ($500,000) if not how to buy a condo?

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn211/jlrx_bucket/HNWICategories.jpg

bargain hunter
07-07-10, 22:19
yes, understanding liability is particularly important. even more so than assets i feel.


some of the trainers not bad.

their strategies and methodology in investment worth listening

boils down to the basic fundamental: asset vs liability....do u fully understand both of them?:D

devilplate
07-07-10, 23:16
ur fully paid primary residence can also be considered as a liability:D

maisonjai
07-07-10, 23:33
ur fully paid primary residence can also be considered as a liability:D

wah pianz..don't tell me must slp at the beach to turn the residence into asset meh..haha

kane
07-07-10, 23:40
ur fully paid primary residence can also be considered as a liability:D


leverage until last drop also dangerous lah, have one fully paid up and leverage on your investment properties is probably a little safer.

jlrx
08-07-10, 00:12
the definition of a HNWI is $1m in investible assets excluding the home they are staying in. that's how they accounted for the 80,000 millionaires in singapore. but i have forgotten is it S$ or US$. 500k want to be called HNWI?! :tsk-tsk:

The definition of HNWI differs from bank to bank, depending on how they wish to segment the market.

The 80,947 Singapore HNWI millionaires are defined as "someone with net assets of at least US$1 million, excluding his main residence and everyday possessions".

So if this more stringent threshold (US$1 million) is used, then maybe only half the people here qualify.

However, this definition is a little strange. As maisonjai pointed out, does that mean that someone who does not qualify as an HNWI can do so by selling his house and sleep on the beach?

Maybe that's what the banks want - to give them your money so that they can "mismanage" it and earn fees from it. :D


wah pianz..don't tell me must slp at the beach to turn the residence into asset meh..haha

bargain hunter
08-07-10, 00:51
yup, that's the currency/number/definition i was looking for in reference to the 80k HNWI. I also used the word "many" which i think is appropriate here. :)

but why would someone with US$1m of investible funds/investments ill treat himself by selling his house and staying at a beach just to qualify for some stupid definition hehehe. it could mean that many millionaires are staying in hdbs though. :) many can stay comfortably in hdbs and invest their millions.


The definition of HNWI differs from bank to bank, depending on how they wish to segment the market.

The 80,947 Singapore HNWI millionaires are defined as "someone with net assets of at least US$1 million, excluding his main residence and everyday possessions".

So if this more stringent threshold (US$1 million) is used, then maybe only half the people here qualify.

However, this definition is a little strange. As maisonjai pointed out, does that mean that someone who does not qualify as an HNWI can do so by selling his house and sleep on the beach?

Maybe that's what the banks want - to give them your money so that they can "mismanage" it and earn fees from it. :D

jlrx
08-07-10, 01:25
it could mean that many millionaires are staying in hdbs though. :) many can stay comfortably in hdbs and invest their millions.

Are you referring to "focus" before he bought Dakota Residences? :p

I think there will come a point when these HDB millionaires move into private properties, exactly like "focus" had done, when their Mercedes and BMWs in HDB carpark lots can no longer give them the emotional satisfaction they need. :p

Now that "focus" has become addicted to private properties, he is on the look out for another one after barely 2 months! :scared-4:


My Search is OVER! Hurrary! I have finally purchased the Dakota Crescent at $1103psf..

This is for home stay..so negative comments please don't say it out.. don't make me feel bad :)


At my place, the HDB agent poster since I started looking last year have been increasing from $500k till now , it's $700k. But whether can see at 700k is another question but sure is an indicator of potential seller's price range since agent need to put an attractive price to entice the seller's out.

Think will sell the HDB soon and put the money into another property.

bargain hunter
08-07-10, 09:53
Focus is one of many. :) but if they own a few cars, wouldn't moving into condos be even more ironic since there is a carpark squeeze? i see nothing wrong with parking the Merc and Beemers in hdb carparks. so common nowadays. :D


Are you referring to "focus" before he bought Dakota Residences? :p

I think there will come a point when these HDB millionaires move into private properties, exactly like "focus" had done, when their Mercedes and BMWs in HDB carpark lots can no longer give them the emotional satisfaction they need. :p

Now that "focus" has become addicted to private properties, he is on the look out for another one after barely 2 months! :scared-4: