Seastrand (D17, 99 Years Leasehold, Far East Organization and Frasers Centrepoint)

[Thinkbig]

Really cheapo fencing. Yesterday my 7 year old son tried climbing it and if I didnt stop him, he would have climbed over it E A S I L Y.

The question is : What can we do now with regards to the fencing?

[JJseastrand]

Trying again to show you all the fencing around Eight Courtyards at Yishun.

Let's see if it works...

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Took two photos via iPhone last night when we drove past Eight Courtyards at Yishun. Some corridor lights were up. No residents yet.

Same kind of fencing as Seastrand. But in terms of security outlook it looks so much worse than Seastrand. Looks like anybody can climb n jump over the fence easily and get to the first house directly behind it.

Trying to post the pics via 'Manage Attachments' but seem unable to. Not sure how...

[jupp jupp]

Seastrand's fencing simply looks like an upgraded version of that but nonetheless factory-like and ugly! Since the workers are still around, maybe something can be done about it. It really looks like a temporary fencing though

[samtcw]

the whole development project costs approximately S$110m to build yet they put a cheap and wobbly fencing with irregular height around it. One of the horrible designs i seen so far fr Frasers and FarEast development

[cornycow]

let's gather some owners' feedback and submit a query to far east/frasers?

[pun.siu]

let's gather some owners' feedback and submit a query to far east/frasers?

Agree. If there is a chance to improve the fencing we should do it !

['Uncle' Lim]

Agree. If there is a chance to improve the fencing we should do it !

Guess we can give it a try...

[jin32]

should we give it more time for the fence to take shape, or collectively write in and ask them what will happen to the fencing?

[samtcw]

Just to quote what they have told me when i wrote to them during 16 Feb this year to express my displeasure about the fencing :-

"Thank you for your feedback below.
We have referred your feedback to the Project in-charge.
Kindly allow us to look into this and we will update you as soon as possible.Thank you very much and have a nice day."

No reply from them till now.

[Thinkbig]

Thanks Sam. Maybe know what's the email address u sent it to? If we each send an email that may help a bit knowing many are unhappy?

[iridrium]

I thought what is the big deal about the fencing until I took a look at the photos.

I totally agree that the fence are just a notch better than those green wired fence. And if nobody tells me it is a condominium, it would think it is fencing for the factory or high class workers dormitory.

Not to rub salt, but owners should write in and complain.

[NO_7]

Saw woodhaven n notice the concrete fencing is also not high. Greenwich is on top of the shops so no such issue.
I suppose trees will be planted all round to form as a barrier.

[Good house]

Hi neighbours,

After looking at how some of u feel, I observed something which I would like to share with you from a third party point of view.

Yes, when I first saw your fence, I was a bit surprize why wire mesh fence was used?

As I look closer on the picture and physically inspect at the site, it occurred to me that you Hv something better than a pattern solid wall fence.

I think You are given a green belt landscape barrier fence with high metal fence outside, low metal fence inside and landscape garden in between

This, in my opinion is a more complex fencing solution than just a pattern solid wall. It is a statement that SS has the land/resourse to build/maintain a green belt landscape barrier fence.

Just my humble opinion

[garychang]

yup... i prefer the greenery natural feel of the fence which likely will have Creeper plants and small trees decorating it... like waterview at Tamp ave 10.
and then if crime rate ups, we can electrify the metal fence... woo hoo!
what can concrete do?
Concrete walls make condos look like 1999 ones...

[nanapindi]

Thanks Sam. Maybe know what's the email address u sent it to? If we each send an email that may help a bit knowing many are unhappy?

I got the exact same reply when I wrote to them

[nanapindi]

[QUOTE=garychang;473825]yup... i prefer the greenery natural feel of the fence which likely will have Creeper plants and small trees decorating it... like waterview at Tamp ave 10.
and then if crime rate ups, we can electrify the metal fence... woo hoo!
what can concrete do?
Concrete walls make condos look like 1999 ones...[/

Have you guys gone down to see the actual site?..it is not a matter of concrete or greenery but this is a matter of cheap quality fence. Seastrand was more expensive than other developments and yet they are cutting corners. The fence is low at some parts and it is easy for someone to jump over- I have seen some developments with similar fence and the creepers only cover small parts of the fence. It is not green at all.

[samtcw]

it looks like a dormitory with the wire fences around it. If u look at the projects by architect Ong&Ong, the fences should resemble like OLA residences and is close to the seastrand model. The wire fences even with the greenery doesnt really give an aesthetic appeal to e surrounding.

[jupp jupp]

We are being charged like 400k more than all the neighboring condos, with no sea view, and sizes so small and now give us this kind of quality. People pay so much for something they should be happy with what they are buying. Or even ecstatic to say the least.

[pun.siu]

We are being charged like 400k more than all the neighboring condos, with no sea view, and sizes so small and now give us this kind of quality. People pay so much for something they should be happy with what they are buying. Or even ecstatic to say the least.

400k more than neighboring condos?

[iwantgizmos]

it looks like a dormitory with the wire fences around it. If u look at the projects by architect Ong&Ong, the fences should resemble like OLA residences and is close to the seastrand model. The wire fences even with the greenery doesnt really give an aesthetic appeal to e surrounding.

True, same here. I was expecting something like this picture attached.

[nanapindi]

Before I purchased the unit, I asked the agent on the perimeter fence. The agent told me it will be similar to the model and not to worry, this is a feo project and they will not compromise on quality


The reality is the model designs always look better than the actual condo. However, as this is a FEO project, I expected some level of standard plus this was comparatively a more expensive project than those in the vicinity

To me the facade plays an important part in the value of the condo. Having cheap fence makes the condo looks cheap. .

Really hope the interior quality is not compromised.

[Yuki]

Seastrand's fencing simply looks like an upgraded version of that but nonetheless factory-like and ugly! Since the workers are still around, maybe something can be done about it. It really looks like a temporary fencing though

Can anyone post how the fence looks like?

I Really like the interiors of seastrend but too bad I missed the boat.

[pun.siu]

Before I purchased the unit, I asked the agent on the perimeter fence. The agent told me it will be similar to the model and not to worry, this is a feo project and they will not compromise on quality


The reality is the model designs always look better than the actual condo. However, as this is a FEO project, I expected some level of standard plus this was comparatively a more expensive project than those in the vicinity

To me the facade plays an important part in the value of the condo. Having cheap fence makes the condo looks cheap. .

Really hope the interior quality is not compromised.

Estuary Yishun residents complained about the fences too..

http://forums.condosingapore.com/sho...=9003&page=300

But they are still living with it ....

[jupp jupp]

400k more than neighboring condos?

Comparing the 3 bedrm, seastrand sells at 1.1-1.2 mil where as the vicinity condos can get it at around 800 k. Seastrand is the first to launch therefore they sold at high prices.

I seriously don't mind such fencing to showcase the landscape greenery, but they don't have to use such flimsy cheap quality, they can use some beautiful iron rods to surround the houses, also can showcase the landscape inside.

The fence really spoils the whole look of the building. And it brings down the value of the house.

[LO]

I too am kind of disturbed by the fencing. Surely someone from Far East is in the know of this forum. Will any organisation allow such a flaw mare their reputation? This is nowhere premium nor luxurious in my opinion. This is also in no way similar to the fencing represented by the model, except for the primary function of creating a boundary, albeit a flimsy one. If the fencing is not as aesthetically pleasing as the one shown at the model and is not sufficient to act as a good barrier (due it's low height) what are we signing for on the dotted line really? Let's just hope that we are over assuming and that Far East will deliver what they represented. I truly thought that the fencing is a temporary one when I first saw it.

[samtcw]

Can anyone post how the fence looks like?

I Really like the interiors of seastrend but too bad I missed the boat.

Here is e model

[Yuki]

Here is e model

The fence shown in the model looks ok lei.

FEO has used the weird cheap looking wire mesh fence instead when they constructed the actual condo?

So what you see is not what you get. How are the buyers protected from this kind of cheap tatics?!

['Uncle' Lim]

I can't agree more. The fence is very different from the model. Very very dissapointing!

[nanapindi]

The fence shown in the model looks ok lei.

FEO has used the weird cheap looking wire mesh fence instead when they constructed the actual condo?

So what you see is not what you get. How are the buyers protected from this kind of cheap tatics?!

Not sure- it is common buyer pain nowadays if you read this forum. Maybe need to call CASE for advice or write to Forum

[nanapindi]

Can't figure out how to upload- tried 'choose photo' but it doesn't work