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Thread: PE: Four-cornered fight for Presidential race

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    Quote Originally Posted by Regulators
    Of course people need to work for their money, but my point is when someone else brought up about TCB giving credit for his services and commented that he had a good heart, I do not see any correlation coz the person he gave credit to would eventually still have to pay him back. i have come across doctors who waive medical fees for those really down and out and also provide discounts for the needy.

    I am puzzled by your statement (in red) as to why the president should donate his money to charity. Don't you think $4 million a year for the president of singapore is too excessive when comparing with his job scope? When you mentioned he works hard for his money, do you mean to say he works 10 times harder than Obama? Please lah...everybody knows the president in singapore is overly paid that is why despite TKL and TJS donating half of that to charity, there is still a lot left. Even at $2 million a year, I think the president is overly paid coz he plays a ceremonial role largely.
    I agree that $4 mil a year is a lot of money.
    But we can't change that.
    So if you are running as EP, you resign from your present job and you expect that pay, so why should you donate part of it to charity, if you don't want to?
    Of course it will be noble of the EP to donate part of his salary to charity, but I will certainly not vote for someone just becoz he will donate his pay.

    Just becoz a person earns lots of money does not mean he should donate it to charity. And if he is sincere about it, he will not go around and broadcast
    that he is doing so.

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    Being noble and charitable is what a president should be, not a matter of choice, otherwise how can a president advocate compassion and do charity when he has done little himself? Nathan often appeared in charitable events to grace the occasion, but has he proven it with his own actions and money? How many millions did he donate to charity in his two terms? A president needs to be exemplary and not merely tell others to do it but not himself. A person can earn obscene millions in his private business ventures but that is money generated by his business and nothing to do with the people. If president's $40 million comes from taxpayers, that is a different matter coz all eyes will be on him as every cent he gets comes from someone who has to toil and sweat to put money into his pocket.

    Quote Originally Posted by buttercarp
    I agree that $4 mil a year is a lot of money.
    But we can't change that.
    So if you are running as EP, you resign from your present job and you expect that pay, so why should you donate part of it to charity, if you don't want to?
    [SIZE=4][COLOR=red]Of course it will be noble of the EP to donate part of his salary to charity[/COLOR][/SIZE], but I will certainly not vote for someone just becoz he will donate his pay.

    Just becoz a person earns lots of money does not mean he should donate it to charity. And if he is sincere about it, he will not go around and broadcast
    that he is doing so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Regulators
    [B]Being noble and charitable is what a president should be, not a matter of choice[/B], otherwise how can a president advocate compassion and do charity when he has done little himself? Nathan often appeared in charitable events to grace the occasion, but has he proven it with his own actions and money? How many millions did he donate to charity in his two terms? A president needs to be exemplary and not merely tell others to do it but not himself. A person can earn obscene millions in his private business ventures but that is money generated by his business and nothing to do with the people. If president's $40 million comes from taxpayers, that is a different matter coz all eyes will be on him as every cent he gets comes from someone who has to toil and sweat to put money into his pocket.
    The role of the elected president of Singapore :
    [URL="http://www.spp.nus.edu.sg/ips/docs/events/Elected%20Presidency/2011/sp_tk_Forum%20on%20Elected%20Presidency_050811.pdf"]http://www.spp.nus.edu.sg/ips/docs/events/Elected%20Presidency/2011/sp_tk_Forum%20on%20Elected%20Presidency_050811.pdf[/URL]

    No mention that president must be noble and charitable, leh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buttercarp
    The role of the elected president of Singapore :
    [URL="http://www.spp.nus.edu.sg/ips/docs/events/Elected%20Presidency/2011/sp_tk_Forum%20on%20Elected%20Presidency_050811.pdf"]http://www.spp.nus.edu.sg/ips/docs/events/Elected%20Presidency/2011/sp_tk_Forum%20on%20Elected%20Presidency_050811.pdf[/URL]

    No mention that president must be noble and charitable, leh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Regulators
    Hahahaha.... gotcha!
    You are speechless.
    Being noble and charitable are virtues that a president SHOULD possess but it is not a prerequisite.

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    bro, the prerequisites we are discussing here is not something that has to be spelt out in a book, it is what common people like us feel a president should be based on conventional wisdom. If an army general is afraid to die in battle, can he conscienably tell his army to die in battle bravely? If a priest is gay, can he conscienably tell others that homosexuality is wrong? Likewise if the president hoards $40 million of taxpayers money without doing much for charity, can he then conscienably tell people to be more charitable? People's president should lead by example and not be a nato (no action talk only) president.
    Quote Originally Posted by buttercarp
    Hahahaha.... gotcha!
    You are speechless.
    Being noble and charitable are virtues that a president SHOULD possess but it is not a prerequisite.

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    [SIZE=3][COLOR=#000000][FONT=Calibri]The Wayang Man[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE]

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    Where is wq?

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    Quote Originally Posted by devilplate
    Where is wq?
    why u want to summon him back

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    Quote Originally Posted by Regulators
    bro, the prerequisites we are discussing here is not something that has to be spelt out in a book, it is what common people like us feel a president should be based on conventional wisdom. If an army general is afraid to die in battle, can he conscienably tell his army to die in battle bravely? If a priest is gay, can he conscienably tell others that homosexuality is wrong? Likewise if the president hoards $40 million of taxpayers money without doing much for charity, can he then conscienably tell people to be more charitable? People's president should lead by example and not be a nato (no action talk only) president.
    Den how about our ministers?

    Took them so long to revise the pay....quite sure president salary will b cut....by 20%?

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