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    I was going to buy, what e heck, today it bounces back above $1600.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hyenergix
    I was going to buy, what e heck, today it bounces back above $1600.
    Can buy now bcoz gold can hit 3000 within few yrs.... Jadey says so

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    Quote Originally Posted by devilplate
    Can buy now bcoz gold can hit 3000 within few yrs.... Jadey says so


    what... 3000 only? I thought Jadey said 4000...

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    "how fast gold goes up will depend on how quickly US$ depreciate.

    Unless we have a global currency to replace US$, else I dont think there is anything that can prevent gold from hitting 4000 in the next 5 to 10 years."

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    Quote Originally Posted by howgozit
    what... 3000 only? I thought Jadey said 4000...

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    "how fast gold goes up will depend on how quickly US$ depreciate.

    Unless we have a global currency to replace US$, else I dont think there is anything that can prevent gold from hitting 4000 in the next 5 to 10 years."
    Tks for the correction...hehe

    Just buy la! 4000! Now 16xx cheap cheap lelong

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    Quote Originally Posted by hyenergix
    I was going to buy, what e heck, today it bounces back above $1600.
    Buy or not is a very personal choice... it'll look like a steal if it bounces back to 18xx in next couple of months. Gold price is flunctuating primarily because the other investment options in market are increasingly improving. Gold will pick up again once Greek defaults next month (just my guess).

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    Buy from where? UOB?
    Quote Originally Posted by ysyap
    Buy or not is a very personal choice... it'll look like a steal if it bounces back to 18xx in next couple of months. Gold price is flunctuating primarily because the other investment options in market are increasingly improving. Gold will pick up again once Greek defaults next month (just my guess).

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    Quote Originally Posted by DC33_2008
    Buy from where? UOB?
    Buy from Mustafa.

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    Sekali mustafa mix fool's gold with real gold
    Quote Originally Posted by mygeemeel
    Buy from Mustafa.

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    Cheap TVs, cheap radios, cheap gold bars! LOL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by devilplate
    Can buy now bcoz gold can hit 3000 within few yrs.... Jadey says so
    Impossible to me, unless there is a major war or the financial system is collapsing. Beware of buying physical gold in the form of jewellery if it is for store of value rather than for gift. I'm not a gold expert, just have a keen interest in the glittering metal.

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    If u want high leverage, the go for spot or comex gold
    Looking at the way it moves, high chance of testing $1500..

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    Whether UOB lowers its price when gold hits $1500 is another question. Why other banks are not selling physical gold?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hyenergix
    Whether UOB lowers its price when gold hits $1500 is another question. Why other banks are not selling physical gold?
    Uob do adjust their gold rates accordingly....but of coz big elephant spread la

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    Do you know the procedure of the purchase? Is it like buying physical gold from a goldsmith shop? Just pay cash and collect the gold bar.
    Quote Originally Posted by devilplate
    Uob do adjust their gold rates accordingly....but of coz big elephant spread la

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    Quote Originally Posted by DC33_2008
    Do you know the procedure of the purchase? Is it like buying physical gold from a goldsmith shop? Just pay cash and collect the gold bar.
    Funny thing happen to me once. I bought a 1kg gold bar from UOB and received a gold bar casted in Indonesia. I asked the teller about it. She says its ok. Just don't remove the seal.

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    Only accept SGD? How about US$?
    Quote Originally Posted by hopeful
    Funny thing happen to me once. I bought a 1kg gold bar from UOB and received a gold bar casted in Indonesia. I asked the teller about it. She says its ok. Just don't remove the seal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laguna
    Since u mention u need to pay interest, most likely will be the spot gold rather than Comex gold. I dun trade spot gold. But u need to check, if u need to pay interest, which I think is 2%, but not sure whether it is per month or per annual, whether compounded or not, is it on the margin or contract sum? U also need to top up margin call if needed.

    There is another indicator for gold traders. This is the price difference between gold price and gold mine stocks. Historically, these two indexes were very very close to each other. Recently, due to the sharp drop of equity, the disparity is 30% (this reading was taken two weeks before when I did the research), too big to be in the comfort zone. Equity will be down further...so...to close the gap, gold must go down to close the gap..

    for u, I can only borrow one famous phrase
    "I duno what to say"
    If via POEMS it would be spot gold and yes they have a finance charge on long positions which is charged daily.

    Stick to trading gold on COMEX or even TOCOM
    And if you are doing long term do the monthly rollover of position.

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    My property dream crash for the moment.. My family just knew about it. Was too rash and hoping for quick profit via spot gold. Now cashflow got problem cannot fund the initial cash deposit. Have to stay with in laws for maybe another year or two if I really lost all the $$......Costliest mistake ever made...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montaigne
    My property dream crash for the moment.. My family just knew about it. Was too rash and hoping for quick profit via spot gold. Now cashflow got problem cannot fund the initial cash deposit. Have to stay with in laws for maybe another year or two if I really lost all the $$......Costliest mistake ever made...
    Cheer up, dun feel that way. U already long on a pte property rite ? So this gold is more like a hedge for you. If the global financial crisis really happens, gold will go above ur level, u should be able to profit from that. If everything eventually turns out well, crisis averted, ur pty value will continue to go up. Ur total position is probably not much different. It's a hedge not a gamble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montaigne
    My property dream crash for the moment.. My family just knew about it. Was too rash and hoping for quick profit via spot gold. Now cashflow got problem cannot fund the initial cash deposit. Have to stay with in laws for maybe another year or two if I really lost all the $$......Costliest mistake ever made...
    Let think from another angle
    1. it is better to make a mistake while ur young than old
    2. u hv the understanding from your family
    3. the lesson is costly and painful but it worths its value in your life long

    It is nvr too late..just move on....
    I had even made much more costly mistakes before in trading....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laguna
    Let think from another angle
    1. it is better to make a mistake while ur young than old
    2. u hv the understanding from your family
    3. the lesson is costly and painful but it worths its value in your life long

    It is nvr too late..just move on....
    I had even made much more costly mistakes before in trading....
    Thanks, I will move on. Just felt quite upset that the savings that I have accumulate over these few years of work just gone like that.. I upset my family becos of this. Quite sad. I am glad that they are quite forgiving despite knowing that we need to trouble them to stay with them for another year or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montaigne
    My property dream crash for the moment.. My family just knew about it. Was too rash and hoping for quick profit via spot gold. Now cashflow got problem cannot fund the initial cash deposit. Have to stay with in laws for maybe another year or two if I really lost all the $$......Costliest mistake ever made...
    Staying w in laws is good, bcoz everyone can take care of each other. Buy phy gold is safer bcoz u need 100% cash tt ensures u can afford n it is always urs in times of needs. Juz work harder to recoup e losses. If u r young, time is money. U will have plenty of money again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montaigne
    My property dream crash for the moment.. My family just knew about it. Was too rash and hoping for quick profit via spot gold. Now cashflow got problem cannot fund the initial cash deposit. Have to stay with in laws for maybe another year or two if I really lost all the $$......Costliest mistake ever made...
    buck up, continue playing with gold and silver.
    If you stop playing, you cannot recover the losses.
    you want to be middle income all your life?

    always remember, there is no difference in lifestyle between a person with assets $1mil and a person with $2mil. but there is a difference with a person with assets with $10mil.

    those who bought gold at peak in 2008 (just before the crash) is smiling now. the next gold peak will be higher than 1920.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montaigne
    My property dream crash for the moment.. My family just knew about it. Was too rash and hoping for quick profit via spot gold. Now cashflow got problem cannot fund the initial cash deposit. Have to stay with in laws for maybe another year or two if I really lost all the $$......Costliest mistake ever made...
    is it that costly? cos gold spot went down but USD(against SGD) went up mah

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    Quote Originally Posted by hopeful
    buck up, continue playing with gold and silver.
    If you stop playing, you cannot recover the losses.
    you want to be middle income all your life?

    always remember, there is no difference in lifestyle between a person with assets $1mil and a person with $2mil. but there is a difference with a person with assets with $10mil.

    those who bought gold at peak in 2008 (just before the crash) is smiling now. the next gold peak will be higher than 1920.
    can u give calls to her/him to guarantee return?
    even huge hedge funds making losses....
    if he continues, he may end up with loan shark and divorce as well

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    As you see he is hopeful.
    Quote Originally Posted by Laguna
    can u give calls to her/him to guarantee return?
    even huge hedge funds making losses....
    if he continues, he may end up with loan shark and divorce as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by august
    is it that costly? cos gold spot went down but USD(against SGD) went up mah
    if he is playing with Phillips, Montaigne is using leverage, US$1 movement in spot gold = US$100 profit/loss.
    so if spot gold drop by US$200, he is looking at a loss of US$20,000 per lot. in addition with usdsgd move from 1.2x to 1.3x, his gold losses is multiplied by the currency losses, i would say Montaigne is looking at some serious loss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hopeful
    if he is playing with Phillips, Montaigne is using leverage, US$1 movement in spot gold = US$100 profit/loss.
    so if spot gold drop by US$200, he is looking at a loss of US$20,000 per lot. in addition with usdsgd move from 1.2x to 1.3x, his gold losses is multiplied by the currency losses, i would say Montaigne is looking at some serious loss.
    This within the span of 1 week

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    High gain comes with High risk. The important thing is to learn from mistake and move on to become more cautious in future.
    Quote Originally Posted by gap969
    This within the span of 1 week

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    Quote Originally Posted by DC33_2008
    High gain comes with High risk. The important thing is to learn from mistake and move on to become more cautious in future.
    Remembered trading gold futures 8 years ago when average true range in a day was $1 or $2, to be able to make $5000 out of a 1 lot position, sometimes have to hold for 2/3 months

    Now a days these amounts can be made or loss in minutes

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