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    Bhutan is not Shangri-La on earth': Khaw




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    In Parliament on Monday, Workers' Party chairman Sylvia Lim called on the Government to learn from Bhutan's gross national happiness index and its approach to growth.

    Minister Khaw Boon Wan spoke in Parliament on Wednesday about his experience in Bhutan and how the small nation has studied Singapore as a country that has transited from Third World to First. He also explained why Bhutan is not a paradise on earth.
    Minister Khaw Boon Wan on happiness

    Bhutan was mentioned several times in this House. I visited Bhutan a few years ago, and met a good cross section of the people, from the Prime Minister, the ministers, the Chief Monk, to civil servants and ordinary folks. Of course, I am not an expert on Bhutan but the westerners' romanticised version of this ancient Kingdom does not fit the reality of what I saw. Bhutan is not the Shangri-la on earth.

    The Chief Monk of Bhutan is a learned man, an enlightened monk and passionate about saving lives in the spiritual sense. He knows Singapore well, visiting us regularly to meet up with his devotees and friends. I asked him what brought him to Singapore on his first trip. He explained that Singapore had cropped up during one meditation session. He was, at that time, planning to build a Buddhist University. He was concerned with negative influences that inevitably would come with globalisation, and felt deeply that the only way out was to imbue his people with traditional values, religious practices and cultural norms. To build his University, he needed money. He conceived a plan to build a big Buddha statue, to draw in paying tourists and visitors and hence funds. The Bhutan Government allocated a good piece of land on a hill overlooking the capital, but said that he would have to raise the funds for construction.

    As he meditated on the way forward, he apparently saw glimpses of Singapore, a country he had then not known much of. He took his first flight to Singapore and landed at the Changi Airport at midnight. What followed was quite incredible. He left the departure hall and jumped into the first taxi that came along. The driver asked for his destination. He said "a clean cheap hotel". The driver seemed to know where to send him to and he checked in for a 3-day stay as that was the amount of money he had in his pocket.

    The next morning, over breakfast, a group of people sitting next to his table, went up to him and posed some questions on Buddhism. He must have given a good reply and they ended up with a long chat. As it turned out, the owner of the hotel was among this group of people. He offered the monk free hotel accommodation for as long as his visa permitted, and asked him to give dharma talk to a group of devotees who were his friends. That started the series of the monk's subsequent visits to Singapore. In time, the group of devotees grew and many in gratitude supported the Buddha statue project.

    My trip to Bhutan was to check out the Buddha statue project. The Chief Monk was gracious and kept me company throughout. We visited several ancient temples, in the city and in the villages. Although a strictly private visit, the Prime Minister who knew of my visit from the Chief Monk, spent some time with me. Over several days, I met up with most of his Ministers, including my counterpart Health Minister at that time.

    The Bhutan Ministers know a lot about Singapore. They have studied us very closely. They are keen to port over some of our public policy solutions to Bhutan. The Health Minister himself had spent months training in the Singapore General Hospital and remembered his stint in Singapore most fondly and could rattle off our 3Ms financing framework

    My Bhutan visit left some deep impressions.

    First, the plight of a tiny nation. How do you make yourself relevant in the harsh world of big nation politics? Or simply making your voice heard? ST's Europe correspondent, Jonathan Eyal, wrote a perceptive piece just today on the plight of small countries, quoting the example of how tiny Slovakia, with a population of 5.5 million, was currently being unfairly treated by their big EU allies. They are being told to contribute to the bailout fund, "to bail out countries which are far richer, and which have only themselves to blame for their current predicament". As Jonathan put it "small countries are supposed to know when to shut up and simply do as they are told".

    Second, the hard reality of living next to giant neighbours. I spoke to the Cabinet Secretary to understand their economic structure: what were their revenue sources, how did they make a living? Most of the Government income was aid and handouts from a giant neighbour next door. The second largest income item was sale of hydroelectric power to the neighbour. I asked if they were paid international market rate. From his body language, I gathered that altruism or even fairness did not feature much in Government-to-Government relations.

    Third, the challenge of making yourself relevant in a globalised world. Being landlocked between India and China, they know their options are limited. The talented are leaving for opportunities elsewhere. The economic opportunities at home are few. The tradition is for the first son in the family to be a monk and the second son, a civil servant. The rest of the children will just have to fend for themselves, mostly in the farms. Tourism is a possible engine of growth. But they have seen how mass tourism has ruined their neighbouring country environmentally and culturally. They are determined not to go that route.

    Fourth, self-determination and self-reliance bring dignity and pride. If survival means pandering to the wishes of others, it is no fun at all, let alone, happiness. This is so at the national level; it is equally true at the personal level.

    They have studied us because Singapore is also a tiny nation, living next to big neighbours. We have successfully transited from Third World to First and managed to create a functioning and harmonious society for our people. In their mind, Singapore could well be the Shangri-la and they want Bhutan to emulate Singapore.

    Just last month, I hosted a meal for the Chief Monk and the Home Affairs Minister who was visiting. The latter was keen to get some help from our Home Team on security issues. We also spoke about the Royal Wedding and how happy the King was. Indeed, we often spoke about happiness and the foundation for it. I recall an ancient Japanese poem on happiness by Yosa Buson. The full beauty of this haiku has to be appreciated in Japanese. Let me try it in English

    What happiness! Crossing this summer river With sandals in my hands
    Members must have had such an experience before. Mr Zainudin's residents in Bishan will soon be able to experience it regularly when the Bishan Park's ABC programme is completed. In the Bhutan villages, I saw well-to-do tourists crossing beautiful mountain streams, with expensive Nike shoes in their hands. They were happy. I saw Bhutan children enjoying the river like all children do. They had no sandals in their hands for they could not afford any. But they seemed happy, with angelic innocence, without any worry. I met and heard about foreigners who volunteered in Bhutan: many Singaporean retired teachers bringing IT to the schools, doctors providing immunisation and eye care for the villagers. They were happy as they found meaning in what they were doing, helping others.

    But most of time, I saw unhappy people, toiling in the field, worried about the next harvest and whether there would be buyers for their products. The Health Minister asked me to help get ambulances and medicine for their villagers.

    The Chief Monk is a sincere man. He sees the onslaught of the Internet and he strives to save the soul of his people, to get them to understand the meaning of life, and how to live it for others. He keeps a close tab on developments here in Singapore. A week before our General Election, he passed a message that "May 7 is an auspicious day, for good people". So all of us here in this House, who won the mandate on May 7, are good people. Congratulations!

    It is now incumbent on all of us, to do our best to make the lives of our people better, not through empty rhetoric, sound bites or mindless giveaways. The challenges of a tiny nation are real and huge. We are not a continental economy like the US or China. We live in a troubled and troubling region. Against all odds, we have done well in the last 50 years when we had so little. We should be able to do even better, now that we have much more. The important thing is to stick to the basics and remember the values of hard work, prudence, self-reliance and meritocracy that have brought us here so far.

    Our public policies are founded on such values. They are well-intentioned for the good of Singaporeans, both in the current and future generations. They are not perfect, but they are not bad. We do however need to adjust them from time to time, in keeping with changed circumstances and in the light of experience. For example, against the current environment of rising cost, I see the need to make major policy adjustments to help the low and the middle classes cope better with the higher cost of living. But we must be mindful that we do not mindlessly slip down the welfare route which has now plagued Greece and which threatened the rest of Europe and the world.

    http://www.asiaone.com/News/AsiaOne%...20-306096.html

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    Khaw should learn meditation from Chief Monk, brilliant idea on how to solve supply/demand housing problem will come automatically
    Ride at your own risk !!!

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    I am in china yunnan, dongchuan red earth now... Staying in a farm house enjoying back to basic life hee hee....

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    Quote Originally Posted by azeoprop
    I am in china yunnan, dongchuan red earth now... Staying in a farm house enjoying back to basic life hee hee....
    Got mozzies anot?

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    wonder our dear sivia has been to bhutan before or not.if not it is like speaking without knowing wat she is toking abt. she enjoy ploughing the field all day ah : ) looks romantic and fun at first, try doing that for the rest of ur life

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    Khaw took 2 days to write this article..nice one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by devilplate
    Got mozzies anot?
    Nope. But is freezing here. No heater no hot shower...only beautiful and colorful terrace farms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by azeoprop
    Nope. But is freezing here. No heater no hot shower...only beautiful and colorful terrace farms.
    what are u doing there? migrated?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rattydrama
    what are u doing there? migrated?
    Eco-holiday....

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    Quote Originally Posted by azeoprop
    Eco-holiday....
    and so to save on heating fuel.... I am guessing you have to keep warm with body heat and close contact physical activity for better heat retention.

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    Been to Dali lijiang zhong Dian too nice
    Ride at your own risk !!!

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    I think Khaw Boon Wan either do not understand English or do not understand Sylvia Lim's great speech.

    What Sylvia is implying is that Bhutan included happiness as one of the indexes to determind the country's well being and government KPI and PAP government supported it through the UN but why is PAP not supporting Singaporean's happiness as one of the indexes to determind Singapore Government's KPI ??

    Double standards from PAP ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by wenqing
    I think Khaw Boon Wan either do not understand English or do not understand Sylvia Lim's great speech.

    What Sylvia is implying is that Bhutan included happiness as one of the indexes to determind the country's well being and government KPI and PAP government supported it through the UN but why is PAP not supporting Singaporean's happiness as one of the indexes to determind Singapore Government's KPI ??

    Double standards from PAP ??

    You are reading too much into Sylvia's speech, she was quoting Bhutan from a philosophical perspective. You are bashing PAP for the sake of it.
    Haha... looks like no matter what you still have to bash the government.

    Truth is KBW's article is well written. It is about marrying idealism with practicality. Happiness cannot be quantified, measured and compared, it is all relative... are you very sure the farmer toiling in the Bhutanese field is happier than you? How..how do you tell?

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    Disappointed with WP ... what she should say is "how to achieve balance between GDP growth and happiness", citing Bhutan is not suitable

    There are so many issues to highlight for example HK government sells inflation protected trust to hk citizens for next few years, why WP never mention? This is very hard to answer for PAP actually as there are no measures to safeguard middle class from onslaught of inflation

    It also reflects that Singapore citizens are easy to control, allowing prolonged high inflation is actually robbing the poor. Both Germans/HK citizens are very outspoken about inflation but not Singkas. US TIPS has existed for a long time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by howgozit
    You are reading too much into Sylvia's speech, she was quoting Bhutan from a philosophical perspective. You are bashing PAP for the sake of it.
    Haha... looks like no matter what you still have to bash the government.

    Truth is KBW's article is well written. It is about marrying idealism with practicality. Happiness cannot be quantified, measured and compared, it is all relative... are you very sure the farmer toiling in the Bhutanese field is happier than you? How..how do you tell?
    Nope, I am not bashing PAP for the sake of it or else I can say the same of you. Supporting PAP for the sake of it.


    You also did not catch the gist of Sylvia's speech.

    She ask PAP to include Happiness as one of government's KPI and index as well since PAP supported Bhutan's Gross National Happiness initiative.

    Sylvia Lim did not imply Bhutan is definitely happier than Singapore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phantom_opera
    Disappointed with WP ... what she should say is "how to achieve balance between GDP growth and happiness", citing Bhutan is not suitable

    There are so many issues to highlight for example HK government sells inflation protected trust to hk citizens for next few years, why WP never mention? This is very hard to answer for PAP actually as there are no measures to safeguard middle class from onslaught of inflation

    It also reflects that Singapore citizens are easy to control, allowing prolonged high inflation is actually robbing the poor. Both Germans/HK citizens are very outspoken about inflation but not Singkas. US TIPS has existed for a long time.
    Catch the gist of her speech.

    What Sylvia wants is PAP practise what it supported Bhutan for in Singapore as well.

    Bhutan include citizen's happiness as government KPI and PAP supported it. What Sylvia ask is whether PAP should do the same for Singapore government's KPI as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wenqing
    Nope, I am not bashing PAP for the sake of it or else I can say the same of you. Supporting PAP for the sake of it.


    You also did not catch the gist of Sylvia's speech.

    She ask PAP to include Happiness as one of government's KPI and index as well since PAP supported Bhutan's Gross National Happiness initiative.

    Sylvia Lim did not imply Bhutan is definitely happier than Singapore.
    Who says I am supporting PAP?

    Problem is people like you (purported supporters of opposition) trash PAP for the sake of it right or wrong. You are giving genuine opposition supporters a bad name.

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    Kbw taking things out of context. Sylvia did not say our entire system should be like bhutan, she merely spoke about adopting bhutan's happiness index. Our system also rojak, penal code from india, accounting systems from australia, govt under westminster style so why can't we just incorporate bhutan's happiness index without being concerned about the internal struggles of the country?

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    Quote Originally Posted by azeoprop
    Nope. But is freezing here. No heater no hot shower...only beautiful and colorful terrace farms.
    So cold you don't want to bathe...

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    Quote Originally Posted by howgozit
    and so to save on heating fuel.... I am guessing you have to keep warm with body heat and close contact physical activity for better heat retention.
    No need lah... just wear the correct winter wear to trap heat in body... no point wearing layers after layers of shirts which do not trap heat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Regulators
    Kbw taking things out of context. Sylvia did not say our entire system should be like bhutan, she merely spoke about adopting bhutan's happiness index. Our system also rojak, penal code from india, accounting systems from australia, govt under westminster style so why can't we just incorporate bhutan's happiness index without being concerned about the internal struggles of the country?
    Agreed. Sometimes our WP takes things out of context when PAP speaks and also our PAP takes things out of context when WP speaks. Remember must have driver and co driver mentality. Both are at front seat so must work together in harmony... Our dear CSM talked about emporor Tai Zong and Wei Zheng and PAP must refute... Just an analogy lah! No perfect analogy to fit our context de so always take with a pitch of salt lah!

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    Singapore's success is largely dependent on adopting the good things from other systems around the world for our own use, but that didn't mean we have to be like the country we take an idea from. We took the idea of western democracy and later added some confucius ideas and other stuff to create our own unique blend. Every law that was passed in singapore came from some precedent from various countries (largely england) and we changed a bit here and there to suit our needs. If bhutan has something good we can learn from, why not? To me really wasting time and money if mps arguing out of context or for the sake of arguing in parliament.
    Quote Originally Posted by ysyap
    Agreed. Sometimes our WP takes things out of context when PAP speaks and also our PAP takes things out of context when WP speaks. Remember must have driver and co driver mentality. Both are at front seat so must work together in harmony... Our dear CSM talked about emporor Tai Zong and Wei Zheng and PAP must refute... Just an analogy lah! No perfect analogy to fit our context de so always take with a pitch of salt lah!

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    Not to mention our Media also take sound-bites out of context.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Regulators
    Singapore's success is largely dependent on adopting the good things from other systems around the world for our own use, but that didn't mean we have to be like the country we take an idea from. We took the idea of western democracy and later added some confucius ideas and other stuff to create our own unique blend. Every law that was passed in singapore came from some precedent from various countries (largely england) and we changed a bit here and there to suit our needs. If bhutan has something good we can learn from, why not? To me really wasting time and money if mps arguing out of context or for the sake of arguing in parliament.
    Indeed its wasting time and money... pay them big cheques to argue things out of context is really . Like that anyone also can take big pay cheques liao!

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    Chen Show Mao speech is better...

    http://www.straitstimes.com/Parliame...ry_725286.html

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    OK, how about something we all can agree on......

    Isn't the Bhutan queen the most beautiful queen ever?



    I am afraid I can't say the same about the King though. He looks much older than 31, must be those Elvis sideburns. Makes him look like one of those characters in a Taiwanese TV drama serial, one of the bad guys. haha... maybe I am just jealous.

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    Your thumbnail pic of just the Queen is 'out of context'.
    She is indeed a Bhutanese stunner...

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    the morale of the story, the rich and ugly man gets the chick.

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    From this pic you can see the King's happiness index is off the charts. The Queen looks a bit pissed-off though, like maybe somebody just cut into the queue. Perhaps it is just her look, many stunning beauties have this kind of look... cool, distant and aloof. Wonder what her happiness index is....









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    Yet to hear the jia liao bi kate spade bimbo giving her maiden speech. Not sure whether she is paid to keep her mouth shut
    Quote Originally Posted by ysyap
    Indeed its wasting time and money... pay them big cheques to argue things out of context is really . Like that anyone also can take big pay cheques liao!

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