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    Default Can China become bankrupt?

    Just read this. Is this true? First US, Euro still brewing, now this ...

    http://www.wealthson.com/1762/chines...y-of-hong-kong



    Larry Lang, chair professor of Finance at the Chinese University of Hong Kong, delivered a lecture to his students where he described the real state of Chinese debts. He asked not to do any recording, audio or video, of the lecture in any way and asked students not to speak about it outside the classroom as speaking anything against the regime is strictly forbidden in China. He told students how the data about the economy are manipulated and truth is kept away from the world.
    One of the student did the audio recording of the lecture and now it is on the Internet.
    Here are the some of the important facts about the Chinese Economy he explained in his lecture:
    Firstly, that the regime’s debt sits at about 36 trillion yuan (US$5.68 trillion). This calculation is arrived at by adding up Chinese local government debt (between 16 trillion and 19.5 trillion yuan, or US$2.5 trillion and US$3 trillion), and the debt owed by state-owned enterprises (another 16 trillion, he said). But with interest of two trillion per year, he thinks things will unravel quickly.
    Secondly, that the regime’s officially published inflation rate of 6.2 percent is fabricated. The real inflation rate is 16 percent, according to Lang.
    Thirdly, that there is serious excess capacity in the economy, and that private consumption is only 30 percent of economic activity. Lang said that beginning this July, the Purchasing Managers Index, a measure of the manufacturing industry, plunged to a new low of 50.7. This is an indication, in his view, that China’s economy is in recession.
    Fourthly, that the regime’s officially published GDP of 9 percent is also fabricated. According to Lang’s data, China’s GDP has decreased 10 percent. He said that the bloated figures come from the dramatic increase in infrastructure construction, including real estate development, railways, and highways each year (accounting for up to 70 percent of GDP in 2010).
    Fifthly, that taxes are too high. Last year, the taxes on Chinese businesses (including direct and indirect taxes) were at 70 percent of earnings. The individual tax rate sits at 81.6 percent, Lang said.
    Once the “economic tsunami” starts, the regime will lose credibility and China will become the poorest country in the world, Lang said.

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    Asking teenagers not to do something ...lol ...betcha the Prof wanted to achieve some PR fame via his students...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gn108
    Asking teenagers not to do something ...lol ...betcha the Prof wanted to achieve some PR fame via his students...

    certainly famous now. many sites are posting it. supposed to have audio on youtube, but cannot find it.

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    To be very honest with you, I dun think ANYONE outside the politbureau of CCP really know what is going on in China.

    For one, the yuan is 100% controlled. China has virtually no external debt. It will not bankrupt on creditors.

    Ever wonder why China refuses to appreciate yuan ? In fact it has a larger QE than the US. It should depreciate the yuan !

    China will go down when CCP goes down. However NEVER underestimate the power of CCP !

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    2011年10月22日 郎咸平秘密演讲
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwYInudGaGE

    郎咸平秘密演讲全文:中共政府破产﹙一﹚
    http://epochtimes.com/gb/11/11/5/n3421888.htm

    郎咸平秘密演讲全文:苏联如何崩溃﹙二﹚
    http://epochtimes.com/gb/11/11/6/n3422557.htm

    郎咸平秘密演讲全文:中国制造业陷绝境﹙三﹚
    http://epochtimes.com/gb/11/11/7/n3423377.htm

    郎咸平秘密演讲全文:中国GDP负增长10%﹙四﹚
    http://epochtimes.com/gb/11/11/9/n3425452.htm

    郎咸平秘密演讲全文:中国每省都是希腊﹙五﹚
    http://epochtimes.com/gb/11/11/10/n3426449.htm

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    Thanks for your links Tripp !

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    Unfortunately, Epoch Times did not complete the compilation of the full version of Larry Lang's speech.

    Here's another link with Q&A session:

    郎咸平秘密演讲全文【完整版】

    http://www.3a5a.com/langxianping/lan...jiang-txt.html

    For your reading pleasure.

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    i thot this kind of article posted by mr b....

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    China still has a lot of resources, infrastructure, buildings and people, how can it ever go bankrupt? Maybe I can become famous by proclaiming:

    Singapore, a nation of whiners, gamblers and property punters, is on the verge of bankrupt.

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    It's u and me... Not singapore

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    How China can bankrupt? Don't underestimate their reserves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DC33_2008
    How China can bankrupt? Don't underestimate their reserves.
    China have been using QE1-QE10 since Tang Dynasty. Dun forget they invented fiat money. It is the angmo that invented the stock market to counter the Forex la.

    The angmos copied China during the post-Romans time:
    A banknote (often known as a bill, paper money or simply a note) is a kind of negotiable instrument, a promissory note made by a bank payable to the bearer on demand, used as money, and in many jurisdictions is legal tender. In addition to coins, banknotes make up the cash or bearer forms of all modern fiat money. With the exception of non-circulating high-value or precious metal commemorative issues, coins are used for lower valued monetary units, while banknotes are used for higher values.
    The banknote was first developed in China during the Tang and Song dynasties, starting in the 7th century. Its roots were in merchant receipts of deposit during the Tang Dynasty (618–907), as merchants and wholesalers desired to avoid the heavy bulk of copper coinage in large commercial transactions.[1][2][3] During the Yuan Dynasty, banknotes were adopted by the Mongol Empire. In Europe, the concept of banknotes was first introduced during the 14th century, with proper banknotes appearing in the 17th century.

    China's QE1 in Tang & Song Dynasties

    Even before this point, the Song government was amassing large amounts of paper tribute. It was recorded that each year before 1101 AD, the prefecture of Xinan (modern Xi-xian, Anhui) alone would send 1,500,000 sheets of paper in seven different varieties to the capital at Kaifeng.[6] In that year of 1101, the Emperor Huizong of Song decided to lessen the amount of paper taken in the tribute quota, because it was causing detrimental effects and creating heavy burdens on the people of the region.[7] However, the government still needed masses of paper product for the exchange certificates and the state's new issuing of paper money. For the printing of paper money alone, the Song court established several government-run factories in the cities of Huizhou, Chengdu, Hangzhou, and Anqi.[7]
    The size of the workforce employed in these paper money factories were quite large, as it was recorded in 1175 AD that the factory at Hangzhou alone employed more than a thousand workers a day.[7] However, the government issues of paper money were not yet nationwide standards of currency at that point; issues of banknotes were limited to regional zones of the empire, and were valid for use only in a designated and temporary limit of 3-year's time.[5]
    The mistake angmo made in paper money? It has an eternal lifespan ! Thereby causing inflationary pressures eventually. This artificial lifespan is limited through China's RMB control la..

    forumer basic will be screaming come 2012. You will see why....soon....

    WAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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    Bro BJ21, wow u research until Tang Dynasty, solid...waiting for the 2012 howl from Basic...

    Obama talk and talk to Wen JB during Pacific tour in Indonesia, also no impact. Chinese Premier stay cool, one in, one out...

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    Quote Originally Posted by land118
    Bro BJ21, wow u research until Tang Dynasty, solid...waiting for the 2012 howl from Basic...
    no la... just that China had recorded history of how the fiat money impact every aspects of an economy since Tang Dynasty loh.. you think they are dumb meh....they have a textbook case of how QE will impact the economies la..

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackjack21trader
    no la... just that China had recorded history of how the fiat money impact every aspects of an economy since Tang Dynasty loh.. you think they are dumb meh....they have a textbook case of how QE will impact the economies la..
    brother land ever notice why China had not been buying up Euro assets but US bonds since the very beginning? heheheheheh It is to create forumer like basic la...joking la....

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