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Thread: Shoebox MM == HDB 1 or 2RM?

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    Default Shoebox MM == HDB 1 or 2RM?

    Shoeboxes = HDB 1- and 2-
    Room Flats?
    (Taken from SGPropTalk) One of our readers has
    commented that small spaces do
    not mean un-livable or not
    conducive for family living,
    since people & families are still
    living in a 1- and 2-room HDB
    flats (which are considered
    "shoebox" HDB-style) in
    Singapore.
    This got the wife and I really
    curious. So we decided to find
    out for ourselves how big (or
    small) the HDB 1- and 2-room
    flats actually are.
    Scouring the HDB website,
    we discovered that a typical early
    1-room HDB flat was between 23
    to 33sqm (= 247 - 355sqft),
    while the early 2-room HDB flat
    ranged from 37 to 45sqm (= 398
    - 484sqft).
    So there appears to
    be some logic in saying that such
    1- and 2-room HDB flats
    are similiar to private "shoebox"
    apartments, at least size-wise.
    But if one looks beyond the
    superficiality, he/she will
    appreciate the following stark
    differences:
    · The HDB flats do not come
    with disproportionately large
    air-con ledges, planter boxes,
    balconies etc etc that are
    regular features in most
    shoeboxes. So the 300sqft, 1-
    room HDB flat actually comes
    up top in terms of "livable
    space" compared to a shoebox
    of similiar size.
    · The price that people pay
    for such HDB flats are many
    times lower than your typical
    shoeboxes, whether in terms of
    quantum or psf price. However,
    one can argue that the quality
    of living (i.e. facilities, privacy
    etc) is different, which we don't
    disagree.
    · Most importantly, people
    and families do not typically
    choose to live in such small 1-
    and 2-room flats. These
    are mainly occupied by low-
    income households, who cannot
    "downgrade" any further in
    terms of the types of homes
    they can afford to buy. But for
    shoebox purchases, this is
    usually a deliberate informed
    decision.
    For those who are interested,
    you can read more about the
    different types and sizes of flats
    offered by HDB by clicking on
    the link below:
    http://www.hdb.gov.sg/fi10/
    fi10320p.nsf/w/
    AboutUsPublicHousing?
    OpenDocument#
    HomeOwnershipforPeople

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    I browsed the site further. Seems like the owner couple is running it as a business. From the countless sorry I dont know about this development, I mean, come on really? You expect people to pay for your advice? Viewing showflats also can turn into business? (bro DKSG hint hint) Potential buyers probably do better to heed advice of bros here. Maybe you bros should start charging....

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    MM in old HDB rental is call 无房无厅

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    Quote Originally Posted by carbuncle
    I browsed the site further. Seems like the owner couple is running it as a business. From the countless sorry I dont know about this development, I mean, come on really? You expect people to pay for your advice? Viewing showflats also can turn into business? (bro DKSG hint hint) Potential buyers probably do better to heed advice of bros here. Maybe you bros should start charging....
    I can also wash the exterior of my car myself, but I don't because the professionals can do it faster and better at a small fee. It also saves me a lot of hassles. Well maybe I'm lazy. Similarly, not everyone has the time and ability to trawl through the posts and distill the information into golden insights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcachon
    MM in old HDB rental is call 无房无厅
    That's studio right? 1 bedder is 1房1厅 (or the 1+1 agents always use)

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    Quote Originally Posted by carbuncle
    That's studio right? 1 bedder is 1房1厅 (or the 1+1 agents always use)
    yep, 1 bedders = 2 room HDB

    studio = 1 room HDB

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