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    what ever it is...there will be lots of construction of buildings and roads and infrastructure, lots of dust, all trees chopped down, air and noise pollution and pain continuously for the next 50 years

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    OCC gone, MBGC gone.. these 2 golf courses related to NTUC.. all have to give way...

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernStar
    OCC gone, MBGC gone.. these 2 golf courses related to NTUC.. all have to give way...
    Yep, OCC controlled by SLF, come 2024 the lease will give up its ghost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aang1971
    I heard floating casino entrance from Miltonia Close
    good one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lajia
    golf course view really a steal then. in 2020 -2030 there will be a lot of golf course lease expiring. your golf course view might become another HDB view...
    very unlikely. this golf course is unique. all other golf courses are private. this is the first public owned golf course. the people's golf course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pro888
    TCSS.

    Just dun know what they're going to do with this land? Size slightly bigger than zoo. There are still 6 to 7 plots of land yet to be sold.

    Best fit is to bring in Disneyland. Imagine monster fall & Roller coaster rides looking out to the scenic view. But for those living near, hmm.....you will hear scream. Evening parade can still see fireworks.
    Jokes aside, can't rule out Disneyland in this area or nearby. In the 1990s when Singapore was courting Disneyland, it was offered a piece of land in Seletar (some rumours it was between Khatib & Bullion Park Condo). It was rejected by Disneyland as they wanted a larger area and did not want to pay for it. Now that Singapore has got more bargaining power being a magnet for tourists with 2 IRs, Universal Studio, etc , Disneyland may finally accept and the a piece of land in the same area could be offered again.
    See the following link: http://forums.vr-zone.com/chit-chatt...singapore.html

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    If it really happen, it will likely be in JLD...
    Quote Originally Posted by nav14
    Jokes aside, can't rule out Disneyland in this area or nearby. In the 1990s when Singapore was courting Disneyland, it was offered a piece of land in Seletar (some rumours it was between Khatib & Bullion Park Condo). It was rejected by Disneyland as they wanted a larger area and did not want to pay for it. Now that Singapore has got more bargaining power being a magnet for tourists with 2 IRs, Universal Studio, etc , Disneyland may finally accept and the a piece of land in the same area could be offered again.
    See the following link: http://forums.vr-zone.com/chit-chatt...singapore.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by lajia
    If it really happen, it will likely be in JLD...
    Can't put everything in JLD as must spread the goodies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernStar
    OCC gone, MBGC gone.. these 2 golf courses related to NTUC.. all have to give way...
    OCC plot is now expiring 2024. Landuse Plan marked as Reserved site for future highrise residential development. No more Views for SM owners. TOP 2016, enjoy 8 yrs of views till 2024 before the construction comes along.

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    Quote Originally Posted by myfirstpc
    OCC plot is now expiring 2024. Landuse Plan marked as Reserved site for future highrise residential development. No more Views for SM owners. TOP 2016, enjoy 8 yrs of views till 2024 before the construction comes along.
    They may not develop the OCC plot immediately after 2024. Should be able to enjoy the view till at least 2030 if it really materialises but those who paid premium value for the best view units will start finding their premium value dissapearing much earlier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by myfirstpc
    OCC plot is now expiring 2024. Landuse Plan marked as Reserved site for future highrise residential development. No more Views for SM owners. TOP 2016, enjoy 8 yrs of views till 2024 before the construction comes along.

    If aerospace industry is still operating in Seletar, new buildings will still need to adhere to the height constraints just like SM right?

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    Disneyland in the heartland??

    OCC going?? do you know how often the ministers play there.

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    My suggestion to all living there.

    Press for an answer despite the fact it is zoned under reserve. The main reasons & attractions of living there are scenic view & the tranquility, foregoing the amenities & transport accessibility at this pretty remote place. Same goes to developers who are going to bid for the land. Housing is long term. Have every right to know. Tell your MP, do you want a columbarium smack infront of your house? You all think. They already have some planning, otherwise this OCC wouldn't be selected & "removed".

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    There are so many golf courses to go first, Keppel, SiCC, Changi and Green Fairways....

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    Quote Originally Posted by p3nboy
    Disneyland in the heartland??

    OCC going?? do you know how often the ministers play there.
    The heartlanders will decide the faith of PAP . The govt did consider Seletar in their original plans for Disneyland in 1990s and more so now to have such attractions in view of the rapidly declining support for PAP.

    Ministers must lead by example especially nowdays so no issue with sacrificing OCC. Anyway they are there only for Charity golf events.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p3nboy
    There are so many golf courses to go first, Keppel, SiCC, Changi and Green Fairways....
    They will not all go at the same time and some will have their leases extended for short periods. They have to make both the elite and heartlanders happy. So maybe SICC which is for elites and OPC for the 2nd class elities / average folks may have their lease extended ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by einnoc
    If aerospace industry is still operating in Seletar, new buildings will still need to adhere to the height constraints just like SM right?
    yes, there will be aeroplanes. i am quite certain building height will remain. reservoir will also remain as it is our strategic resource. conclusion is nothing much will change, it may be converted into low rise residential, but that doesn't affect us.

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    Singapore used to be a LIVE crab, it will be cooked soon.

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    Miltonia Residence already restricted to 5 storeys? How can they build higher at OCC?

    Even if they build the same height as MR, high floor units at SM can still overlook MR and beyond.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Night
    Miltonia Residence already restricted to 5 storeys? How can they build higher at OCC?

    Even if they build the same height as MR, high floor units at SM can still overlook MR and beyond.

    This area will eventually have the park connector all the way to Sembawang beach. Phase 2 of ABC extending from existing Family Bay all the way northwards. WIll not happen soon, though.

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    here's my take... 1.4 plot ratio at MR. the land in front will be converted to landed ppty, ala a middle class sentosa cove with recreational facilities in front. reservoir will not go away for strategic reasons. we all still need our sai-tsui (newater).

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    Mr Nicholas Mak, Executive Director of Research & Consultancy at SLP International, said: "If that golf course is located near a reservoir, then that area may not be suitable for redevelopment into an industrial estate because there is a risk that the reservoir may be polluted. Perhaps other possible uses for that golf courses could be high-rise residential, since residential homes with views of reservoirs or other waterways are very popular in Singapore."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shanhz
    here's my take... 1.4 plot ratio at MR. the land in front will be converted to landed ppty, ala a middle class sentosa cove with recreational facilities in front. reservoir will not go away for strategic reasons. we all still need our sai-tsui (newater).
    newwater no need reservoir? surely they already realized no matter how many or how big open air reservoir there is water is still not enough

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    Quote Originally Posted by Night
    Miltonia Residence already restricted to 5 storeys? How can they build higher at OCC?

    Even if they build the same height as MR, high floor units at SM can still overlook MR and beyond.
    how to reach that kind of population on the same piece of land? landed or low rise will likely be discouraged. yet need to at least give people a sense of spaciousness. one way is to mix some low and high rise. hdb design is already like that. a low rise can be sandwiched between two high rise

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    This place will remain low rise as long as seletar airport still in operation. Air space control restrict the height of the building.

    But maybe building to building space become nearer. Like what we see in ponggol.

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    ....more clues will surface depending on how much is the winning bid in nearby plots......there are plenty of plots still, so those who paid high high must be sweating. Developers will put in due research, much more thorough than buyers as they have much more to loose.....plus they have the corporate machinery to probe. TG was astute to priced the development at the right time to capture the market well. Eventually hopefully the sky around skies does not get too busy as low flying aircraft and helicopters could add to some noise pollution, and aircrafts do crash.... a recent one on Msian Highway for example......On the other hand if the sky is not busy, it could mean the aerospace industries may not be taking off.

    In any case, the buyers pioneering development like MR and Shaugessy are the real winners...SM provide a huge buffer for them.

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    The runway is of NE/SW facing, not sure how the aircraft can stray that much away, and even if they want to do a emergeny land, they can still aim for the reservior...

    I thought most of the companies at the hub are those manufacturering aircraft components and engines? So not sure how will the sky be busy then? Most of the aircraft servicing should be done at Changi and Paya Lebar (ST Aero) if not wrong... and most of the helicopters flying around are RSAF from Sembawang Airbase....not really close from here, i do see more 2 seater kind trainer type aircraft, not that noisy though...

    Once dev starts to build in front of MR and Shaugessy at OCC, with the views blocked, I dun see how there is any buffer for them...
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    Reserved doesn't mean high rise, it doesn't mean industrial, it doesn't mean no golf course, it doesn't mean landed, it doesn't mean a lot of things.

    Reserved means reserved. In theory, anything is possible except the plot ratio. If the plot in front is higher, it means jackpot for owners behind as it will also be raised.

    Golf course is likely to be retained with lease extended. If not alternative sites have to be sourced for it. Cannot just take it away without replacement.

    If taken away, the best logical thing is to make it a public park. If not, I am not sure what will be suitable there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Night
    The runway is of NE/SW facing, not sure how the aircraft can stray that much away, and even if they want to do a emergeny land, they can still aim for the reservior...

    I thought most of the companies at the hub are those manufacturering aircraft components and engines? So not sure how will the sky be busy then? Most of the aircraft servicing should be done at Changi and Paya Lebar (ST Aero) if not wrong... and most of the helicopters flying around are RSAF from Sembawang Airbase....not really close from here, i do see more 2 seater kind trainer type aircraft, not that noisy though...

    Once dev starts to build in front of MR and Shaugessy at OCC, with the views blocked, I dun see how there is any buffer for them...
    Sour grapes from someone who paid much more than MR....anyway if there is a park connector...there will be a ???

    Main OCC slated for residential though...or mixed dev.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aang1971
    Sour grapes from someone who paid much more than MR....anyway if there is a park connector...there will be a ???

    Main OCC slated for residential though...or mixed dev.

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