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    http://www.cnbc.com/id/100472868

    A Wealthy Nation That Can't Afford to Retire

    By: Rajeshni Naidu-Ghelani
    Assistant Producer, CNBC

    The Southeast Asian city-state of Singapore may boast of the highest percentage of millionaires in the world, but retiring in this wealthy financial hub is becoming even more difficult for the common man.

    According to a latest study by HSBC, the citizens of this country, which has one of the highest per capita incomes in the world, face the grim prospect of running out of their savings almost halfway through retirement as the high cost of living and increased life expectancy eats into their nest egg.

    Singapore has gradually moved up human resources firm Mercer's global rankings of the world's most expensive cities, moving to sixth place in 2012 from eighth in 2011 and eleventh in 2010.

    (Read more: Singapore's High Cost of Living May Come at a Cost)

    "There is cause for concern from the finding that the retirement savings of people in Singapore will run out after nine years, which is about the time they are entering into frail retirement and a stage of their lives when medical costs and other elderly care expenses are expected to rise," Paul Arrowsmith, head of retail banking and wealth management, HSBC Singapore, said in the report released on Wednesday.

    "People are living longer, through tougher economic times, and expectations about their standard of living in retirement have risen," Arrowsmith added.

    More than half of the 1,000 Singaporeans interviewed for the survey said that either they were not adequately prepared or not prepared at all for retirement as they expected to continue working beyond the age of 65 to be able to afford their desired lifestyle.

    One also needs more money to fund one's retirement in Singapore. According to the study, the annual household income required to lead a "comfortable" retired life in Singapore is the third highest among Asia's major economies, behind Australia and Hong Kong, at $48,773. This figure is 68 percent higher than what was needed in 2011, the survey, which has been running for eight years, found.

    The rising cost of living in Singapore has 58-year-old Singaporean Janice Tan worried about her retirement.

    "I think the cost of living is really escalating a lot," Tan told CNBC. "During the Chinese New Year season, when I went to buy the goodies, it really shocked me, because the cost is really going up too fast."


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    Tan and her husband are currently paying for the education of their two children, including a 21-year-old daughter studying in Perth, Australia. While Tan, an administration professional, hopes to retire soon, she says she knows it might be another 10 years before that happens.

    "As human beings we want more - a more comfortable life. That's where the worries come in on whether you will able to survive," Tan said.

    According to the study, of those not saving for retirement, nearly half said they were being held back by the cost of day-to-day living.

    (Read more: Protest Puts Political Risk in Singapore's Future)

    High costs have become a major cause of discontent among Singapore's residents. This prompted a rare protest over the weekend in which about 3,000 people participated. They were voicing concerns over swelling costs driven by an influx of foreigners.

    Foreigners, who account for almost 40 percent of Singapore's 5.3 million people, have been blamed for pushing up housing pricesand taking up jobs in one of Asia's major business centers.

    (Read more: Singapore Firms Hit by Foreign Labor Laws)

    Retirement Fears

    The top three fears about retirement cited by Singaporeans were poor health, financial hardship and not having enough money to provide for good healthcare, according to the study.

    With retirement savings drying up at a time when Singaporeans are most vulnerable to health problems, funding medical bills could become a big burden, HSBC said.

    Tan backed that sentiment, saying that medical bills from a motorcycle accident that her husband was involved in last year have been a drain on their finances.

    "As we get older, I realize it [funding health costs] is a more important thing to sort out," said Tan. But the high cost of living is coming in the way. "I can't imagine how much more the cost of living is going to go up to," she added.

    —By CNBC.com's Rajeshni Naidu-Ghelani; Follow her on Twitter @RajeshniNaidu
    I took the road less traveled by, and that has made all the difference.” - Robert Frost quotes (American poet, 1874-1963)

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    that's why KL-SG HSR is so important for the current working generation especially singles... 10y later (hopefully) you can retire in Malacca but come to Singapore to collect rent every month
    Ride at your own risk !!!

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    i heard people mention about malacca alot and also visit there..
    care to share what is up there?
    I took the road less traveled by, and that has made all the difference.” - Robert Frost quotes (American poet, 1874-1963)

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    Quote Originally Posted by phantom_opera
    that's why KL-SG HSR is so important for the current working generation especially singles... 10y later (hopefully) you can retire in Malacca but come to Singapore to collect rent every month
    Like Ah Long ah? Rent can auto deposit to bank acct. More of coming here to meet up friends and drink kopi and maybe visit polyclinic...

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    Quote Originally Posted by phantom_opera
    that's why KL-SG HSR is so important for the current working generation especially singles... 10y later (hopefully) you can retire in Malacca but come to Singapore to collect rent every month
    It's a nice option worth to ponder.

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    At least Sing dollar is strong against ringgit now S$1 about $2.5 ringgit. We can have an option to retire in Malaysia. But if election going to change hand in Singapore Sing dollar may drop in value, investors will sell or short Sing dollar. Next time those want to retire over there also cannot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roly8
    i heard people mention about malacca alot and also visit there..
    care to share what is up there?
    bro, your 300k getting smaller by the day. ppty aside, are u putting it in any funds?

    looks like you have not been to malaysia much. take a wkend tour there lah. cheap cheap. maybe might meet your other half also.
    There is no good or bad location. There is only good or bad price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by star
    At least Sing dollar is strong against ringgit now S$1 about $2.5 ringgit. We can have an option to retire in Malaysia. But if election going to change hand in Singapore Sing dollar may drop in value, investors will sell or short Sing dollar. Next time those want to retire over there also cannot.
    how about BN losing more votes and RM$ dropping even further? the m'sia election is an impt indicator for us, what will happen when the dominant party loses big time.
    There is no good or bad location. There is only good or bad price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shanhz
    how about BN losing more votes and RM$ dropping even further? the m'sia election is an impt indicator for us, what will happen when the dominant party loses big time.
    not only if BN loses big time, but the transition process of handing over. things may turn ugly or PR may fragmentized with different stakeholders clamouring for limelight (and more $$)

    ultimately, it's chaos and that doesn't spell good for investments

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    Quote Originally Posted by eng81157
    not only if BN loses big time, but the transition process of handing over. things may turn ugly or PR may fragmentized with different stakeholders clamouring for limelight (and more $$)

    ultimately, it's chaos and that doesn't spell good for investments
    your good friends PAP supporters will come in and say the same for singapore.
    There is no good or bad location. There is only good or bad price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shanhz
    your good friends PAP supporters will come in and say the same for singapore.

    Same for singapore too!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shanhz
    your good friends PAP supporters will come in and say the same for singapore.
    local opposition don't have the same kind of firebrands in malaysia. it's entirely different dynamics. furthermore, there is no opposition coalition and need to play up religion in SG

    chaos in SG if opposition takes over? unlikely

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    Quote Originally Posted by minority
    Same for singapore too!!!!
    There is no good or bad location. There is only good or bad price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shanhz
    bro, your 300k getting smaller by the day. ppty aside, are u putting it in any funds?

    looks like you have not been to malaysia much. take a wkend tour there lah. cheap cheap. maybe might meet your other half also.
    Malacca? chicken rice balls... chendol.... portuguese tarts....

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    malacca is best destination to clear carbon, followed by fill stomach.
    There is no good or bad location. There is only good or bad price.

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    Retirement Fears in singapore??

    For those that Spent , spent and spent , no way they can retired ...
    (like nowaday some of the Y Generation)

    For those who Save, Save and Save, need not worry
    ( more on the first generation of Singaporean)


    It depend on which "S" you are in, it will be good put the saving into Stock, Property etc investment tools.
    yes, market may crash, but as long got holding power (more for property and Blue Chip Stock) , can sleep nicely at night


    Those who said Singapore not a good place to retired, and other country is better, maybe should just move to there, and few years later come back share in this forum - are you better off.
    if yes - Congrat,
    if No - Join back as long you go the Red Passport

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    yea..i am puzzled at the new generation..
    I took the road less traveled by, and that has made all the difference.” - Robert Frost quotes (American poet, 1874-1963)

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    new generation want to spend, want to enjoy , want fast and min work rendered.

    spend now think later mentality. plus the entitlement feeling.

    Also new generation come from a higher base than their parents no qualms to enjoy 1st . problems? later then think.

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