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    A common topic of discussion during home visits over the Chinese New Year holidays was whether the Government should relax some of its property cooling measures — to date, seven rounds of them.
    Some are in favour of such a move, but more feel the Government should not budge an inch. No surprise over who is on which side: The views are based heavily on self-interest.
    The issue was brought into even sharper focus after Mr Kwek Leng Beng, Executive Chairman of Singapore’s second-largest listed property developer, City Developments, said that now was the right time for the Government to tweak the cooling measures.
    Speaking on the sidelines of the Real Estate Developers’ Association of Singapore’s Spring Festival lunch last week, he said a measure that could be tweaked would be the Additional Buyer’s Stamp Duty (ABSD)on foreigners. The high-end segment has been languishing for a long time and sales have been pitifully slow.
    More people are joining the debate as they sense that, if they do not speak up now, they will have to live with the consequences if the views of the opposing group were to prevail.
    I feel a review leading to some adjustments to the cooling measures would be good, simply because no policy is perfect.
    There will always be some unintended negative consequences on the genuine homebuyer or upgrader: The policymaker may say this is unavoidable as you cannot please everyone. True, the impact may be small or even insignificant if we are talking about only a single round of measures but, to date, there have been seven rounds since September 2009.
    Surely the consequences for each round will accumulate and build up and, over time, will become significant. Judging from the slow progress made by policymakers in the major economies to normalise the low-interest-rate environment, we can expect our cooling measures to be around for some time, if not for a long time. Meanwhile, a segment of households will continue to be unfairly penalised.
    If that is the case, a review of the cooling measures should be done and adjustments made to limit such effects. Just this week, the Monetary Authority of Singapore relaxed some of the conditions of the Total Debt Servicing Ratio (TDSR) framework for owner-occupied properties. It recognised that some owners might find themselves trapped in situations not of their doing as a result of the TDSR,which is not officially considered a cooling measure.
    In the resale market, one thing is clear: The seven rounds of cooling measures have cumulatively hit the transaction volume very hard. The resale volume of homes has long been on the downward trend, but it has now been cut to the bare bones after the cooling measures first shifted buying activity to new homes and later dampened any kind of such activity.
    Many years ago, when I first started my career in the real-estate industry, two out of three private-home-sale transactions were resales, with the other a new sale. Today, fewer than one in two home-sale transactions is a resale.
    In the public housing market, the volume of Housing and Development Board resale flat transactions has been roughly halved from a few years ago. The number of agents serving the HDB resale market has fallen sharply.
    The very low overall resale volume suggests that not much upgrading is taking place. Under normal market conditions, the majority of resale transactions result from upgrading, as households relocate to bigger or better homes as their incomes rise. Genuine upgraders with no investment motives on their minds tend to move from completed property to completed property.
    Today, it appears that such activity has declined drastically. This is because the ABSD of 7 per cent for citizen households is now immediately payable upon the purchase of a second home. If you are an upgrader, you can claim a refund upon the selling of your first property.
    At today’s high price levels, 7 per cent is a lot of cash to the genuine upgrader. It is no wonder that many are opting to stay put. This may lead to frustration if they cannot fulfil their housing aspirations or if they need more space. It adds pressure on an already stressful environment for the average household.
    For every year of low resale volumes, you can expect a build-up of pent-up upgrading demand. How will the frustration be manifested? Let me hazard a guess: More road bullies and road rage? Blocking everyone for hours at the car park entrance?
    You may laugh at this, but prolonged frustration adds to stress and some of us may reach the tipping point earlier than others.


    Colin Tan is Director, Research & Consultancy at Suntec Real Estate
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    wah ... he ended his article with very strong words

    "You may laugh at this, but prolonged frustration adds to stress and some of us may reach the tipping point earlier than others."
    Ride at your own risk !!!

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    Lame and self serving article which offers no constructive view.

    No upgrading will lead to ppl becoming road bully?

    Wats the link in tat? Lololol

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    Quote Originally Posted by phantom_opera View Post
    wah ... he ended his article with very strong words

    "You may laugh at this, but prolonged frustration adds to stress and some of us may reach the tipping point earlier than others."
    Yes, you are right.
    Lol.....so he feels that the actions of road bullies and road blockers (eg Lot 1 car park auntie blocker) are a result of high housing costs!

    At today’s high price levels, 7 per cent is a lot of cash to the genuine upgrader. It is no wonder that many are opting to stay put. This may lead to frustration if they cannot fulfil their housing aspirations or if they need more space. It adds pressure on an already stressful environment for the average household.
    For every year of low resale volumes, you can expect a build-up of pent-up upgrading demand. How will the frustration be manifested? Let me hazard a guess: More road bullies and road rage? Blocking everyone for hours at the car park entrance?
    You may laugh at this, but prolonged frustration adds to stress and some of us may reach the tipping point earlier than others.

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    No lah, he probably didn't want to be upfront - like no upgrading means pent-up anger against Govt means you know who they will vote come GE-2016?
    Mind you, these upgraders form the biggest % of voters!

    Actually, I heard that because of ABSD, many foreigners (especially PRCs) and PRs still buying Singapore private properties/condos, but they are trying to save on ABSD by buying those cheaper units in the OCR, like Sengkang, Punggol, and West Coast and Jurong, super popular with foreigners especially PRCs!
    Because of ABSD, OCR private condos have been further heated up and that is why prices spiral up out of control! Otherwise how do you expect J Gateway can sell $1500-17xx psf?

    But now, ABSD coupled with TDSR, means singapore citizens upgraders hit with TDSR while still having to compete to buy OCR heartlander private condos properties with foreigners (including PRs)!!!



    Quote Originally Posted by el loco View Post
    Lame and self serving article which offers no constructive view.

    No upgrading will lead to ppl becoming road bully?

    Wats the link in tat? Lololol
    Last edited by teddybear; 14-02-14 at 11:42.

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    Quote Originally Posted by princess_morbucks View Post
    http://m.todayonline.com/business/pr...worth-tweaking

    A common topic of discussion during home visits over the Chinese New Year holidays was whether the Government should relax some of its property cooling measures — to date, seven rounds of them.
    Some are in favour of such a move, but more feel the Government should not budge an inch. No surprise over who is on which side: The views are based heavily on self-interest.
    The issue was brought into even sharper focus after Mr Kwek Leng Beng, Executive Chairman of Singapore’s second-largest listed property developer, City Developments, said that now was the right time for the Government to tweak the cooling measures.
    Speaking on the sidelines of the Real Estate Developers’ Association of Singapore’s Spring Festival lunch last week, he said a measure that could be tweaked would be the Additional Buyer’s Stamp Duty (ABSD)on foreigners. The high-end segment has been languishing for a long time and sales have been pitifully slow.
    More people are joining the debate as they sense that, if they do not speak up now, they will have to live with the consequences if the views of the opposing group were to prevail.
    I feel a review leading to some adjustments to the cooling measures would be good, simply because no policy is perfect.
    There will always be some unintended negative consequences on the genuine homebuyer or upgrader: The policymaker may say this is unavoidable as you cannot please everyone. True, the impact may be small or even insignificant if we are talking about only a single round of measures but, to date, there have been seven rounds since September 2009.
    Surely the consequences for each round will accumulate and build up and, over time, will become significant. Judging from the slow progress made by policymakers in the major economies to normalise the low-interest-rate environment, we can expect our cooling measures to be around for some time, if not for a long time. Meanwhile, a segment of households will continue to be unfairly penalised.
    If that is the case, a review of the cooling measures should be done and adjustments made to limit such effects. Just this week, the Monetary Authority of Singapore relaxed some of the conditions of the Total Debt Servicing Ratio (TDSR) framework for owner-occupied properties. It recognised that some owners might find themselves trapped in situations not of their doing as a result of the TDSR,which is not officially considered a cooling measure.
    In the resale market, one thing is clear: The seven rounds of cooling measures have cumulatively hit the transaction volume very hard. The resale volume of homes has long been on the downward trend, but it has now been cut to the bare bones after the cooling measures first shifted buying activity to new homes and later dampened any kind of such activity.
    Many years ago, when I first started my career in the real-estate industry, two out of three private-home-sale transactions were resales, with the other a new sale. Today, fewer than one in two home-sale transactions is a resale.
    In the public housing market, the volume of Housing and Development Board resale flat transactions has been roughly halved from a few years ago. The number of agents serving the HDB resale market has fallen sharply.
    The very low overall resale volume suggests that not much upgrading is taking place. Under normal market conditions, the majority of resale transactions result from upgrading, as households relocate to bigger or better homes as their incomes rise. Genuine upgraders with no investment motives on their minds tend to move from completed property to completed property.
    Today, it appears that such activity has declined drastically. This is because the ABSD of 7 per cent for citizen households is now immediately payable upon the purchase of a second home. If you are an upgrader, you can claim a refund upon the selling of your first property.
    At today’s high price levels, 7 per cent is a lot of cash to the genuine upgrader. It is no wonder that many are opting to stay put. This may lead to frustration if they cannot fulfil their housing aspirations or if they need more space. It adds pressure on an already stressful environment for the average household.
    For every year of low resale volumes, you can expect a build-up of pent-up upgrading demand. How will the frustration be manifested? Let me hazard a guess: More road bullies and road rage? Blocking everyone for hours at the car park entrance?
    You may laugh at this, but prolonged frustration adds to stress and some of us may reach the tipping point earlier than others.


    Colin Tan is Director, Research & Consultancy at Suntec Real Estate
    Voice of desperation.. Just like what govt policy does to those car dealers..

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    Widening income gap creates frustration. Particularly when more rich PR and new citizen from " developing countries" can afford better living comfort than majority of S'porean.

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    Car loan curb has already show what govt policy can does to a market. The current housing curb will produce the desire result.

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    Yes, at the expense of upgraders and heartlanders because foreigners are bidding up prices of their heartland condos to save on ABSD!

    Quote Originally Posted by oops View Post
    Car loan curb has already show what govt policy can does to a market. The current housing curb will produce the desire result.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jslee78 View Post
    Widening income gap creates frustration. Particularly when more rich PR and new citizen from " developing countries" can afford better living comfort than majority of S'porean.

    agree X 10000000000000000000000000
    In the final analysis.....its NOT whether you have a diploma,degree,masters OR PHD....its whether you have a HDB/PC/EC or LANDED...

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    Quote Originally Posted by princess_morbucks View Post
    http://m.todayonline.com/business/pr...worth-tweaking

    A common topic of discussion during home visits over the Chinese New Year holidays was whether the Government should relax some of its property cooling measures — to date, seven rounds of them.
    Some are in favour of such a move, but more feel the Government should not budge an inch.
    Haha…all my coffeeshop friends praise Gov for the CMs, all so happy, some even wishes more CMs...

    Developer should ask Gov for other things, indirect help that pacify them, not CMs relaxation.
    A bottle of Lafite '82 for all my coffeeshop friends yesterday...many don't know what is it....haha...

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    Quote Originally Posted by phantom_opera View Post
    wah ... he ended his article with very strong words

    "You may laugh at this, but prolonged frustration adds to stress and some of us may reach the tipping point earlier than others."


    I kind of agree with this statement


    frustration can lead to drastic actions...

    once I was driving from London city to Cornwall... on the high way I think it was M6 ... I saw a sign ...

    Give way to faster vehicles...
    Frustration leads to road accidents ...


    it is true .. imagine you drive at 50km/hr on lane 1 ... hogging the lane ..

    it will result in faster drivers to honk at you, over take from the left lane, or swerving back into lane 1 after overtaking ... causing you to brake suddenly etc etc .. it can lead to accidents...

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    The challenge is to think of how tweaking can lead to a more stable market but more time is required to monitor

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    Quote Originally Posted by ekl2ekl2 View Post
    The challenge is to think of how tweaking can lead to a more stable market but more time is required to monitor
    They should tweak it such that those owner occupied units are not be penalized eg they should consider removing SSD for owner occupied units.


    Investment units are secondary and CMs for investment units should stay in place.

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    Why tweak anything? To me developers and "property analysts" and agents complaining everyday equals government policy is a success.

    well done!!!

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    The more the developers and banks complaining, the more we should be feeling happier from the perspective of property investors.

    Quote Originally Posted by mosaic View Post
    Why tweak anything? To me developers and "property analysts" and agents complaining everyday equals government policy is a success.

    well done!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jslee78 View Post
    Widening income gap creates frustration. Particularly when more rich PR and new citizen from " developing countries" can afford better living comfort than majority of S'porean.
    oh really? I see trongs of singaporean at show flats and buying multiple condos. Singaporean poor? lol. they just like to think they are poor. so they feel good that they are under dog and deserve more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by teddybear View Post
    No lah, he probably didn't want to be upfront - like no upgrading means pent-up anger against Govt means you know who they will vote come GE-2016?
    Mind you, these upgraders form the biggest % of voters!

    Actually, I heard that because of ABSD, many foreigners (especially PRCs) and PRs still buying Singapore private properties/condos, but they are trying to save on ABSD by buying those cheaper units in the OCR, like Sengkang, Punggol, and West Coast and Jurong, super popular with foreigners especially PRCs!
    Because of ABSD, OCR private condos have been further heated up and that is why prices spiral up out of control! Otherwise how do you expect J Gateway can sell $1500-17xx psf?

    But now, ABSD coupled with TDSR, means singapore citizens upgraders hit with TDSR while still having to compete to buy OCR heartlander private condos properties with foreigners (including PRs)!!!

    talk cock lah.. when the price come down those who never buy will say heng ah. I was right never buy.

    Those die die go buy one will blame government why never stop them.

    This is the mentality of Singaporean. blame n blame but never self reflect. just like u!
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    Quote Originally Posted by minority View Post
    talk cock lah.. when the price come down those who never buy will say heng ah. I was right never buy.

    Those die die go buy one will blame government why never stop them.

    This is the mentality of Singaporean. blame n blame but never self reflect. just like u!
    If those upgraded will prefer a small 600+sqft condo in Sengkang over a big 1000+ sqft EA HDB in Sengkang, then I really have nothing to say.. I don't call that upgrading, it looks more like downgrading.

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    Quote Originally Posted by princess_morbucks View Post
    They should tweak it such that those owner occupied units are not be penalized eg they should consider removing SSD for owner occupied units.


    Investment units are secondary and CMs for investment units should stay in place.
    The thought is good, but it will also have plenty of loopholes because you cant stop people from buying stay and then sell after 6 months.
    "Never argue with an idiot, or he will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience."

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    Quote Originally Posted by RCT View Post
    If those upgraded will prefer a small 600+sqft condo in Sengkang over a big 1000+ sqft EA HDB in Sengkang, then I really have nothing to say.. I don't call that upgrading, it looks more like downgrading.

    Agree........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ringo33 View Post
    The thought is good, but it will also have plenty of loopholes because you cant stop people from buying stay and then sell after 6 months.
    ABSD stops people from buying stay and sell after 6mths.. they can sell but have to take 16% hit. so from speculation stand pt it dont make sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RCT View Post
    If those upgraded will prefer a small 600+sqft condo in Sengkang over a big 1000+ sqft EA HDB in Sengkang, then I really have nothing to say.. I don't call that upgrading, it looks more like downgrading.
    That is each personal choices. they have to make their own decision what they want. if die die must and go cheong a 600sqf. then they should learn to suck it up if it turns out to be a feeling of downgrade eventually.
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