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    Default Sales at The Santorini disappoint

    http://www.businesstimes.com.sg/spec...point-20140401

    Published April 01, 2014

    Sales at The Santorini disappoint

    Only 80 of the 200 units released at the 597-unit condo's weekend launch sold

    By lee meixian [email protected]


    OF the 200 units released at The Santorini's launch over the weekend, only 80, or 40 per cent, have been sold, leading analysts to suggest that the market is tiring of too much supply of similar mass-market projects, particularly ones with low-quantum compact units.

    The units sold at the "Mediterranean-inspired" Tampines condominium were mostly one and two-bedroom units, a spokesman for developer MCC Land (Singapore) Pte Ltd told BT. This was expected, since over half of the condominium's 597 units are one and two-bedders.

    Compact units have become the rage since the Total Debt Servicing Ratio (TDSR) framework rolled out last June lowered the loan-to-value limits for buyers who have an existing home mortgage and are still looking to buy more residential properties.

    Buyers have therefore had to scale down their sights to lower-quantum investment property purchases.

    "For most middle-class buyers, this is all they can afford as a second property. The TDSR framework has restricted the liquidity in the market," said SLP International research head Nicholas Mak.

    Prices at The Santorini start from $508,200 for the smallest unit, a 463-sq-ft one-bedder.

    From the developer's point of view, selling units at "small quantum with higher-dollar per square foot prices" will also help it to break even more easily, given the high price at which it bid the land for - at $562.01 per square foot per plot ratio - for a plot not walking distance to the MRT station and in an area with quite a lot of new supply, Century 21 chief executive Ku Swee Yong said.

    He estimates that more than 25,000 units will come onstream in the Punggol, Sengkang, Tampines and Pasir Ris area in the next three to four years.

    Price at The Santorini's units average $1,100 per sq ft, slightly higher than the nearby Waterview and Q Bay Residences condominiums.

    Looking ahead, most consultants believe that the appetite for one and two-bedders will dwindle.

    Mr Ku said: "It will be tougher to find additional new sources of buyers even at the $500,000 mark. This segment of mass market buyers buying at low quantum may have been exhausted already."

    He added that compact investment units are also untested in terms of rentals. Referring to The Santorini development, he said: "How many people will be looking to rent a one-bedroom of about 500 sq ft? What sort of rents can you get? Would a renter rather take a three-room HDB flat that he can share with a colleague for $2,000 a month, or pay for a much smaller room with more facilities? It's a bit of a struggle."

    But Chesterton Singapore managing director Donald Han thought otherwise. He sees the trend of developers releasing and buyers snapping up low-quantum small units continuing.

    "The sweet spot is really $800,000 and below - which is what one- and two-bedroom units are targeting at," he said. "The fact that The Santorini can sell 80 units is deemed a fairly good number to achieve in a slowing market."

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    Finally, Singaporeans realise that far flung 99yr lh condos in HDB estates are not exactly a smart buy, better to stay in HDB.

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    one agent was still telling me that at 500k range, it is a good buy
    "How to make a fool useful for your properties? Let him continue to blow up Jurong prices and all other areas will keep up"

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    1 bedroom from 450k
    2 bedroom from 550k

    Like that then can be sold out within 1 weekend.

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    To sell 80 units at $1100 psf for small units at tis location, is an achievement, all the best....... my thinking is tis... IF FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS There is only few buying, then tose who hold cash can easily buy a 1.5 mil condo...the market will rise again!! The key is holding power, tose who can hold will be beneficiaries !

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    Quote Originally Posted by azeoprop View Post
    1 bedroom from 450k
    2 bedroom from 550k

    Like that then can be sold out within 1 weekend.
    maybe 60 years lease can be done
    "How to make a fool useful for your properties? Let him continue to blow up Jurong prices and all other areas will keep up"

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    No more carrot head to buy?

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    In this market 80 out of 200 released is not bad already, haha.

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    Waterview Qbay The Arc Dnest Palate already dried up the demand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by azeoprop View Post
    1 bedroom from 450k
    2 bedroom from 550k

    Like that then can be sold out within 1 weekend.
    even 2br 550k not worth the wait for top, too long

    might as well wait out to buy cheaper, immediate move in

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    Quote Originally Posted by xebay11 View Post
    Finally, Singaporeans realise that far flung 99yr lh condos in HDB estates are not exactly a smart buy, better to stay in HDB.
    *LIKE! .

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    Quote Originally Posted by august View Post
    In this market 80 out of 200 released is not bad already, haha.
    It is actually quite bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by august View Post
    In this market 80 out of 200 released is not bad already, haha.
    Yes, I agree.
    That's 40% sold of those launched.
    In what way is that disappointing?

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    HDB owners can received ah kong's money from time to time. Like the recent annoucement of rebates on S&C Charge.
    Quote Originally Posted by xebay11 View Post
    Finally, Singaporeans realise that far flung 99yr lh condos in HDB estates are not exactly a smart buy, better to stay in HDB.

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    tapering have started.
    “Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by DC33_2008 View Post
    HDB owners can received ah kong's money from time to time. Like the recent annoucement of rebates on S&C Charge.
    Yes, that is why I live in HDB now and can start saving to get another FH condo in town, definitely no overpriced, ulu 99yr lease condo in HDB estate for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by princess_morbucks View Post
    Yes, I agree.
    That's 40% sold of those launched.
    In what way is that disappointing?
    Considering this location selling at a price of $11xx .. I would think the sales is quite decent ....

    Where to find those 80 buyers at today's market ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by princess_morbucks View Post
    Yes, I agree.
    That's 40% sold of those launched.
    In what way is that disappointing?
    Compared with a few years ago where que numbers had to be issued, this is a disappointment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xebay11 View Post
    Compared with a few years ago where que numbers had to be issued, this is a disappointment.
    Thanks to TDSR and ABSD...

    What the govt wants, what the govt gets... the only time things cannot be controlled is during a major recession.... (like punggol 21 in 1997)... Cant think of any other time... maybe you guys can shed some light on your statement... I have been researching like crazy... hahahahahahahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by chestnut View Post
    Thanks to TDSR and ABSD...

    What the govt wants, what the govt gets... the only time things cannot be controlled is during a major recession.... (like punggol 21 in 1997)... Cant think of any other time... maybe you guys can shed some light on your statement... I have been researching like crazy... hahahahahahahaha
    Glad to see u posting again. Do post more often.

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    the government just wants a flat market .... a long soft landing path .. so that wages can catch up

    cdl already up from 52w low of 8.60 to 10.xx .. optimism returns?
    Ride at your own risk !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by phantom_opera View Post
    the government just wants a flat market .... a long soft landing path .. so that wages can catch up

    cdl already up from 52w low of 8.60 to 10.xx .. optimism returns?
    What would you consider a soft Landing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chestnut View Post
    Thanks to TDSR and ABSD...

    What the govt wants, what the govt gets... the only time things cannot be controlled is during a major recession.... (like punggol 21 in 1997)... Cant think of any other time... maybe you guys can shed some light on your statement... I have been researching like crazy... hahahahahahahaha
    This time property agents really eat grass, in the past they had business even if prices went either way. If prices head South, there would always be buyers waiting at the side, but with TDSR this has really slashed affordablity so the market will keep declining.

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    Prices are still steep for surburban condos... there's still room for prices to fall...

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    $1100 psf with no mrt in sight, surrounded by condos which have TOP or are going to TOP soon in the outskirt of Tampines....good luck to the 80 who bought it, foresee more discounts on the way for this project, juz like The Glades

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    from TRM

    Ride at your own risk !!!

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    S&CC hike

    http://www.todayonline.com/singapore...-scc-rates-s10

    SINGAPORE — The Aljunied-Hougang-Punggol East Town Council (AHPETC), run by the Workers’ Party, has revised its service and conservancy charges (S&CC), with hikes amounting to between S$3.50 and S$10 for some residents.

    In Bedok Reservoir-Punggol, Serangoon, Paya Lebar and Eunos divisions and Hougang SMC, the monthly S&CC rates for Singapore citizens living in one- and two-room Housing and Development Board (HDB) flats, as well as Housing and Urban Development Company (HUDC) flats, will remain the same. The rate for a one-room flat is S$19, while two-room flats will pay S$28 each.
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    Quote Originally Posted by el loco View Post
    $1100 psf with no mrt in sight, surrounded by condos which have TOP or are going to TOP soon in the outskirt of Tampines....good luck to the 80 who bought it, foresee more discounts on the way for this project, juz like The Glades
    Supposed to be next to future Tampines West MRT.

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    1100psf in Tampines....a lot of choice at this price, no reason to buy there.
    Quote Originally Posted by xebay11 View Post
    Supposed to be next to future Tampines West MRT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chestnut View Post
    Thanks to TDSR and ABSD...

    What the govt wants, what the govt gets... the only time things cannot be controlled is during a major recession.... (like punggol 21 in 1997)... Cant think of any other time... maybe you guys can shed some light on your statement... I have been researching like crazy... hahahahahahahaha


    After so many yrs of boom. Time for the agents to go on holiday for a break.
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