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    We know for certain that in terms of prestige and luxury, private condomimiums are better than HDB flats.

    But between penthouses and landed houses (other things being equal in terms of floor area, location, locality, etc.), which is generally deemed to be more prestigous and luxurious as deemed by the public? I don't seem to have a ready answer for this.

    Penthouses - height + breathtaking view + assortment of full condo facilities?
    Landed house - owns land, a house on your own, with garden, etc.?

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    Quote Originally Posted by acosean View Post
    We know for certain that in terms of prestige and luxury, private condomimiums are better than HDB flats.

    But between penthouses and landed houses (other things being equal in terms of floor area, location, locality, etc.), which is generally deemed to be more prestigous and luxurious as deemed by the public? I don't seem to have a ready answer for this.

    Penthouses - height + breathtaking view + assortment of full condo facilities?
    Landed house - owns land, a house on your own, with garden, etc.?
    landed you got to deal with lots of pests. snakes etc.

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    You cannot rebuild your PH but you have the option with Landed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leesg123 View Post
    landed you got to deal with lots of pests. snakes etc.
    Thought the recent news about woman got bitten by snake in toilet was living in a flat albeit low floor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acosean View Post
    We know for certain that in terms of prestige and luxury, private condomimiums are better than HDB flats.

    But between penthouses and landed houses (other things being equal in terms of floor area, location, locality, etc.), which is generally deemed to be more prestigous and luxurious as deemed by the public? I don't seem to have a ready answer for this.

    Penthouses - height + breathtaking view + assortment of full condo facilities?
    Landed house - owns land, a house on your own, with garden, etc.?
    It depends on your outlook in life. Each has pros and cons.

    Have you just struck Toto?
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    Where there is kelong, there is guni.
    No kelong no guni.
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    It also depends where is your penthouses (PH) and height of your penthouse with respect to your neighbouring developments. PH is only good if it is at least 40 storeys in the local context.
    Quote Originally Posted by acosean View Post
    We know for certain that in terms of prestige and luxury, private condomimiums are better than HDB flats.

    But between penthouses and landed houses (other things being equal in terms of floor area, location, locality, etc.), which is generally deemed to be more prestigous and luxurious as deemed by the public? I don't seem to have a ready answer for this.

    Penthouses - height + breathtaking view + assortment of full condo facilities?
    Landed house - owns land, a house on your own, with garden, etc.?

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    For me, I feel landed is more prestigious and more importantly safer in case of fires, collapse, easier to evacuate from a landed than a penthouse...that is why I buy my landed. And also land is scarce so it should hold its value better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mummy View Post
    For me, I feel landed is more prestigious and more importantly safer in case of fires, collapse, easier to evacuate from a landed than a penthouse...that is why I buy my landed. And also land is scarce so it should hold its value better.
    What is so nice about our views from high floors anyway? Not like we have beautiful blue waters or natural scenery...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mummy View Post
    What is so nice about our views from high floors anyway? Not like we have beautiful blue waters or natural scenery...
    it is a good feeling to tower above the rest. Plus the far reaching unblocked view.

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    PH anytime. If we are talking about comparable size. There are some 600 sq ft PH.

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    I'm struggling with similar questions as well. I have 2 more options thrown in:-

    1) Landed in RCR/ near RCR OCR
    2) Cluster Landed
    3) PH
    4) 3/4 Bedders (at least 1,600 sqf live-in area) in CCR

    All similar in quantum, only difference I guess is whether 1 view space, proximity to town (important for me due to my office and children's school) or facilities as priority.

    Most would know the merits of each housing type, no right, no wrong but seriously it's really up to individual and family needs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomastansb View Post
    PH anytime. If we are talking about comparable size. There are some 600 sq ft PH.
    Huh? 600sqft how to qualify as penthouse? You mean as long as it is at the top, it is called a penthouse? Thought penthouses need to be quite big or 2 storey?

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    Landed to hold value, penthouse for living.

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    Hi, this is the thread starter again. Thanks for all your varied perspectives. And no, I didn't strike lottery.

    While I agree with all that there are pros and cons of each (PH or landed house) and one should choose the one that best suits his needs/lifestyle, etc., I still don't hear any consensus with regard to the prestige or luxury level of one over the other.

    Perhaps it would be easier to narrow down some of the factors. Consider this - a single-level Penthouse with full unblocked paromamic sea view in most of its rooms (i.e. living, dining, study, master, master bath, junior master) with 2,000+ sq ft and with full condo facilities. And a landed terrace house with similar built-in area (excluding outdoor garden)(but no view because of blockage and close proximity to trees and neighbour houses). Which will generally be regarded as more prestigous and luxurious?

    I've been hearing mixed responses from friends, relatives and colleagues. Just wondering if similar sentiments are felt here, thanks.

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    I have mixed feelings.
    I love both .
    If you can experience both, means you have experienced the best of both worlds- Heaven and Earth!

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    Quote Originally Posted by princess_morbucks View Post
    I have mixed feelings.
    I love both .
    If you can experience both, means you have experienced the best of both worlds- Heaven and Earth!
    Agreed, I like this!

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    Quote Originally Posted by acosean View Post
    Hi, this is the thread starter again. Thanks for all your varied perspectives. And no, I didn't strike lottery.

    While I agree with all that there are pros and cons of each (PH or landed house) and one should choose the one that best suits his needs/lifestyle, etc., I still don't hear any consensus with regard to the prestige or luxury level of one over the other.

    Perhaps it would be easier to narrow down some of the factors. Consider this - a single-level Penthouse with full unblocked paromamic sea view in most of its rooms (i.e. living, dining, study, master, master bath, junior master) with 2,000+ sq ft and with full condo facilities. And a landed terrace house with similar built-in area (excluding outdoor garden)(but no view because of blockage and close proximity to trees and neighbour houses). Which will generally be regarded as more prestigous and luxurious?

    I've been hearing mixed responses from friends, relatives and colleagues. Just wondering if similar sentiments are felt here, thanks.
    Then it really depends on your district or location then...some landed are more prestigious like Tai Keng Gardens or Sennett Estate or of course Sentosa Cove and some condos are more prestigious than others based on location..freehold or leasehold..

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    Quote Originally Posted by acosean View Post
    Agreed, I like this!
    You ask one with a more modern outlook generally they should vote for penthouse.

    You ask one with a more conservative and traditional outlook the landed.

    No best answer, depends on who you are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acosean View Post

    While I agree with all that there are pros and cons of each (PH or landed house) and one should choose the one that best suits his needs/lifestyle, etc., I still don't hear any consensus with regard to the prestige or luxury level of one over the other.

    Perhaps it would be easier to narrow down some of the factors. Consider this - a single-level Penthouse with full unblocked paromamic sea view in most of its rooms (i.e. living, dining, study, master, master bath, junior master) with 2,000+ sq ft and with full condo facilities. And a landed terrace house with similar built-in area (excluding outdoor garden)(but no view because of blockage and close proximity to trees and neighbour houses). Which will generally be regarded as more prestigous and luxurious?

    I've been hearing mixed responses from friends, relatives and colleagues. Just wondering if similar sentiments are felt here, thanks.
    It's like asking whether it's more prestigious or luxurious to own a piece of the sky or a piece of the land...
    The three laws of Kelonguni:

    Where there is kelong, there is guni.
    No kelong no guni.
    More kelong = more guni.

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    ultimately

    landed >condo>hdb

    hdb = public, condo = private, landed = more private then private

    for ph - prestige come from being the highest floor best view. the facilities doesnt add on to the prestige because all sharing.

    for landed the prestige come from being seclusive
    Ong lai ah!

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    Quote Originally Posted by acosean View Post
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    Perhaps it would be easier to narrow down some of the factors. Consider this - a single-level Penthouse with full unblocked paromamic sea view in most of its rooms (i.e. living, dining, study, master, master bath, junior master) with 2,000+ sq ft and with full condo facilities. And a landed terrace house with similar built-in area (excluding outdoor garden)(but no view because of blockage and close proximity to trees and neighbour houses). Which will generally be regarded as more prestigous and luxurious?.....
    the single-level PH is more prestige.
    when u bring guests to that PH, you will elicit a lot of WAHHHHHHHHH.
    when u bring guest to that terrace, you will only elicit WA.

    the amount of WAHHHH determine how prestigious your residence is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hopeful View Post
    the single-level PH is more prestige.
    when u bring guests to that PH, you will elicit a lot of WAHHHHHHHHH.
    when u bring guest to that terrace, you will only elicit WA.

    the amount of WAHHHH determine how prestigious your residence is.
    ...... imagine WAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!






































    so small ah... 600 sft ph...
    Ong lai ah!

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    Quote Originally Posted by onglai View Post
    ...... imagine WAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    ...so small ah... 600 sft ph...
    but still elicit more HHHHHH than a landed 600sft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hopeful View Post
    the single-level PH is more prestige.
    when u bring guests to that PH, you will elicit a lot of WAHHHHHHHHH.
    when u bring guest to that terrace, you will only elicit WA.

    the amount of WAHHHH determine how prestigious your residence is.
    what a disappointing answer from you.

    I would imagine an answer like "atas'ness starts with the address not the size ..."

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    Wow, you guys are humorous, like comparing it with owning a piece of sky versus owning a piece of land, and the 600-sq-ft mickey house PH thingy! What a laugh!

    Just now one mentioned that it is the location that determines more on the prestige of a property. I agree, but I also did mention in my opening post that we confine it to the same location for comparison purposes.

    For example, in Pasir Ris, we have landed homes near the beach (but no view, blocked by trees and other structures) and PHs with full sea view there as well. So which is more prestigous? And what about in Marine Parade / Amber Road area with also landed houses and sea-view PHs? Which is generally considered to be more luxurious?

    From what I gather here, there are no fixed answers. So it isn't so clear-cut.

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    i can have a big fish pond in my landed but not penthouse

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    Quote Originally Posted by amk View Post
    what a disappointing answer from you.

    I would imagine an answer like "atas'ness starts with the address not the size ..."
    that's teddy's answer - CCR all the way
    i am more flexible.

    the TS has already given the constraints and i imagined my own reaction on visiting such the PH and the landed as described by the TS.

    actually when i visit houses, i look at door hinges and electrical outlets
    luxury plumbing, expensive granite, expensive white goods are so common now, most here are jaded already. so i am looking for that extra attention to detail.

    eg of hinge that door hinges impress me.
    www.tectushinges.com/
    http://sugatsune.com/products/Produc...CTID=HES3D-190
    economy version of concealed hinges
    http://www.soss.com/

    so when i see solid teak door and piano hinge, it is kinda of a letdown.

    having find the hinges that i want, now i am looking at electrical outlets. currently a ultra luxury condo has basically the same electrical outlets as the cheapest condos.
    kinda of hard though as a 3-pin socket is a 3-pin socket. how much more different can it be.

    anyway, for the most exclusive PH,
    the most wow is the super-PH at clermont residence.
    exclusive lift shaft for super-ph.WAAHHHH.
    even other more expensive PH in orchard dont have this super-exclusive feature. what is private lift compared to private lift shaft.
    unfortunately the only thing that let it down, is no exclusive carpark lots for it (as i dont see it from the brochure floorplan)
    details, details, looks like developer forgot to include this little detail in strata title.
    i dont think the buyer would mind paying for 6 exclusive carpark lots next to the lift. hopefully there will be 1 hidden carpark lot where one can exit unseen by public. (from lift to car, nobody can see who is entering or exiting.)

    one more thing, also have 2 entrances, 1 for discreet and 1 for public.
    when the resident carrying ntuc plastic bags full of groceries, passed by the lobby, nobody give a second glance.
    however, when the said resident press the lift to the super-PH, everybody will pause, double-take, and goes wahhhh
    that is a satisfaction that only money can buy

    discrete entrance is of course when bring a woman back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hopeful View Post
    that's teddy's answer - CCR all the way
    i am more flexible.

    the TS has already given the constraints and i imagined my own reaction on visiting such the PH and the landed as described by the TS.

    actually when i visit houses, i look at door hinges and electrical outlets
    luxury plumbing, expensive granite, expensive white goods are so common now, most here are jaded already. so i am looking for that extra attention to detail.

    eg of hinge that door hinges impress me.
    www.tectushinges.com/
    http://sugatsune.com/products/Produc...CTID=HES3D-190
    economy version of concealed hinges
    http://www.soss.com/

    so when i see solid teak door and piano hinge, it is kinda of a letdown.

    having find the hinges that i want, now i am looking at electrical outlets. currently a ultra luxury condo has basically the same electrical outlets as the cheapest condos.
    kinda of hard though as a 3-pin socket is a 3-pin socket. how much more different can it be.

    anyway, for the most exclusive PH,
    the most wow is the super-PH at clermont residence.
    exclusive lift shaft for super-ph.WAAHHHH.
    even other more expensive PH in orchard dont have this super-exclusive feature. what is private lift compared to private lift shaft.
    unfortunately the only thing that let it down, is no exclusive carpark lots for it (as i dont see it from the brochure floorplan)
    details, details, looks like developer forgot to include this little detail in strata title.
    i dont think the buyer would mind paying for 6 exclusive carpark lots next to the lift. hopefully there will be 1 hidden carpark lot where one can exit unseen by public. (from lift to car, nobody can see who is entering or exiting.)

    one more thing, also have 2 entrances, 1 for discreet and 1 for public.
    when the resident carrying ntuc plastic bags full of groceries, passed by the lobby, nobody give a second glance.
    however, when the said resident press the lift to the super-PH, everybody will pause, double-take, and goes wahhhh
    that is a satisfaction that only money can buy

    discrete entrance is of course when bring a woman back.
    no need to buy clemont to get private lift shaft... a normal 3 storey house with lift - already got private lift shaft...summore come with exclusive carpark lots too...

    Ong lai ah!

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    Best thing is no need to pay maintenance cause find we seldom use the facilities when living in condo. At most 2 to 4 times a month or less after a while which does not justify the cost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onglai View Post
    no need to buy clemont to get private lift shaft... a normal 3 storey house with lift - already got private lift shaft...summore come with exclusive carpark lots too...

    where got prestige if buy landed with private lift/shaft?
    all your neighbours has it.
    exclusive car park lots, your neighbours have it too.

    landed with swimming pool, also not much prestige.
    once your neighbour build swimming pool, no more bragging rights.

    PH with private lift shaft is different.
    old buildings cannot upgrade (i dont think other SPs want to built just for the atas PH owner)

    unless other condos have similar height and private lift shaft, then Clermont super-ph will be the most prestigious PH in singapore, even more so than the more expensive PHs in orchard.

    but the prestige of the super-ph drops a lot if owner have to fight with other residents for carpark lots

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