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    Can't imagine how lively condominiums will be if very short term rental is allowed and people start drinking liquor by the pool past 2230 as per Iswaran. Ban liquor in public places and push them to private areas managed by incompetent managing agents. Then need to employ guards and increase the maintenance funds to cover repairs and cost of hiring security and cleaner staff... It is all planned.

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    Submitted my survey. a BIG NO to short-term stays!

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    It is not about right or wrong. Both side can produce "make sense argument". It is about Voting (if government really follow the voting/survey result).

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    http://www.straitstimes.com/news/sin...nb-poll-201502

    More people are already in favour? They should start a poll in this forum.
    The three laws of Kelonguni:

    Where there is kelong, there is guni.
    No kelong no guni.
    More kelong = more guni.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelonguni View Post
    http://www.straitstimes.com/news/sin...nb-poll-201502

    More people are already in favour? They should start a poll in this forum.
    That is airbnb's own poll, lol.

    If the govt allows short term stays, it will be a strong reason for me not to vote for the ruling party.

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    Good move by airbnb!

    Quote Originally Posted by august View Post
    That is airbnb's own poll, lol.

    If the govt allows short term stays, it will be a strong reason for me not to vote for the ruling party.

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    airbnb's own poll is a joke!
    This should poll this forum here, a property forum make up of property owners! Don't know who they polled that gets the type of results entirely in their favour?


    Quote Originally Posted by august View Post
    That is airbnb's own poll, lol.

    If the govt allows short term stays, it will be a strong reason for me not to vote for the ruling party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teddybear View Post
    airbnb's own poll is a joke!
    This should poll this forum here, a property forum make up of property owners! Don't know who they polled that gets the type of results entirely in their favour?
    Do the poll here

    http://forums.condosingapore.com/sho...ort-Term-Stays

    Till now still 50/50

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    The Decision already make, the poll is just to let people happy they have a say.

    Do you want to stay in a village or move to the city.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcachon View Post
    The Decision already make, the poll is just to let people happy they have a say.

    Do you want to stay in a village or move to the city.
    I think people still prefer kampung.
    The three laws of Kelonguni:

    Where there is kelong, there is guni.
    No kelong no guni.
    More kelong = more guni.

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    Well, landlords will volunteer to be in the council to ease their renting out of apartments. Retirees will have income or things to do to kill time...

    The devil is in the details and the implementation.

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    If ST rental is allowed, should buy cheap landed terrace, then re-partition to many rooms (12 or more) and rent out cheaply, can do roaring business!

    In condos, genuine MC members who really used to volunteer their time to work for free will back out to allow those with vested interests to take-over so that these people can do roaring business with ST rentals!

    May be MC members will get to collect FAT ALLOWANCES that is tax-free, just like MPs who collect $15k+ a month tax-free for just a night's job per week and average a day per month in parliament?

    Quote Originally Posted by TABee View Post
    Well, landlords will volunteer to be in the council to ease their renting out of apartments. Retirees will have income or things to do to kill time...

    The devil is in the details and the implementation.

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    Honestly I am very subjected when I vote for YES. I see my self in the future as old person and Not sure whether my CPF is enough for me. To play safe it would be good for me if I can make money from my condo when I am too old to do a real job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandiwara View Post
    Honestly I am very subjected when I vote for YES. I see my self in the future as old person and Not sure whether my CPF is enough for me. To play safe it would be good for me if I can make money from my condo when I am too old to do a real job.
    Don't mind me saying but that would be rather short sighted. Being able to monetise your asset does not mean its capital value is being protected. If old age retirement is a concern, you should be lobbying the govt to tweak or relook its policies in that area, and I don't mean a one-off "pioneer" package.

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    Quote Originally Posted by august View Post
    Don't mind me saying but that would be rather short sighted. Being able to monetise your asset does not mean its capital value is being protected. If old age retirement is a concern, you should be lobbying the govt to tweak or relook its policies in that area, and I don't mean a one-off "pioneer" package.
    Do not worry. Every one have their own share to express their Vote. It is not about right or wrong. It is about what the majority want.
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    If short term rental is allowed, then it is another case of majority (residents + landlords with long-term views) losing out for the benefits of a very very small minority.

    So the case is really really very clear cut if you want to benefit the majority : )

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    People doing rental whether short or long term are always in the small minority in comparison to the entire population. This is not a case of majority beating the minority in votes, but how the govt can balance the rights of minority and majority. It is very much like the argument for and against allowing smoking in eateries like coffeeshops, there will always be those for and against.

    Quote Originally Posted by Allthepies View Post
    If short term rental is allowed, then it is another case of majority (residents + landlords with long-term views) losing out for the benefits of a very very small minority.

    So the case is really really very clear cut if you want to benefit the majority : )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Regulators View Post
    People doing rental whether short or long term are always in the small minority in comparison to the entire population. This is not a case of majority beating the minority in votes, but how the govt can balance the rights of minority and majority. It is very much like the argument for and against allowing smoking in eateries like coffeeshops, there will always be those for and against.
    Yes, there will be those supporting and those rejecting the idea. For the next 3 elections at least, Singapore is only ready for short term stay if enforcement is effective and managed by honest Singaporeans. Jobs created should not to be outsourced to foreign imports and to benefit them. The ancillary opportunities must go to supporting true blue Singaporeans.

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    If Singapore government and MND legislates to allow short-term stay, then they better tell us how they are going to contact-trace the people/tourists/foreigners who come into contact with disease/virus-carriers (like below case)?

    As we know, short-term stay do not have proper records of who stay in the unit, and there is no way for MOH to do proper contact-tracing of foreigners/tourists who stayed in short-term stay private properties!

    When such thing happens, should we blame MND or MOH? Don't tell me it will become another case of "unsweep pathway" because nobody claim responsibility? (That is why need to set up a new board/body to act as a one-stop hotline? ops, who remember what is that board/body called?)



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    Quote Originally Posted by Regulators View Post
    People doing rental whether short or long term are always in the small minority in comparison to the entire population. This is not a case of majority beating the minority in votes, but how the govt can balance the rights of minority and majority. It is very much like the argument for and against allowing smoking in eateries like coffeeshops, there will always be those for and against.

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    ura only allows more than 6 months stay.
    That number seems to be arbitary.

    what if URA has put minimum of 1 year stay.
    Then have consultation about the minimum being changed to 6 months.

    I am pretty sure the same arguments would be brought if URA were to change to 6 months.
    Yet presently, people are pretty happy with the current regulation of minimum 6 mths stay.
    I guess people dont pretty much like change.

    people happy with min 6 months.
    then change to min 5months, people grumble & accept, not much different between 5 and 6 months.
    then change to min 4months, people grumble & accept, not much different between 4 and 5 months.
    then change to min 3months, people grumble & accept, not much different between 3 and 4 months.
    then change to min 2months, people grumble & accept, not much different between 2 and 3 months.
    then change to min 1months, people grumble & accept, not much different between 1 and 2 months.
    then change to min 3weeks, people grumble & accept, not much different between 3weeks and 1 month.
    then change to min 2weeks, people grumble & accept, not much different between 2 and 3weeks.
    then change to min 1week, people grumble & accept, not much different between 1 and 2weeks.
    then change to min 3day, people grumble & accept, not much different between 3days and 1week.
    then change to min 1day, people grumble & accept, not much different between 1day and 3days.

    so whats the problem, people need time to adjust from min 6months to min 1day?

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