24HR gym in condo?

[IamWong]

As title mentions, can i request for it? Should it be the MA / developer who decides such rules. In this case theres no MCST yet as the condo is still less than a year after TOP. Hope you guys can advise.

[Arcachon]

Developer and MA will say no. Try to put in the special resolution on the first AGM.

[proud owner]

Very tough.

Even for older condos where the Gym is located in the club house, a separate building by itself, that is AWAY from the residential blocks, it is still not 24hrs.

Simply because the possible noisy generated by the treadmills, the clanging sounds of weights, etc ...

New condos have a severe lack of space. The gym is most likely in the same building as residential units.

[richwang]

I believe we close the gym and Swimming pool at 10pm (or 1030pm), passed in 1st AGM as by-law, and posted onsite.
There is also safety consideration, what if someone faints in midnight while using gym or swimming pool?
Condo is not a hotel, residents need to be considerate for each other, not just demanding things. You are also THE OWNER.

[IamWong]

We have taken into account that the condo gym is pathetically small despite 810 units. We have got no choice but to request for such a procedure. As for the noise, It is in a glass room and has not seem to be a problem yet.

[richwang]

Don't worry, Swimming pool and gym will be crowded for the first couple of months, in particular the first 1-2 months. After the initial excitement, pool and gym are mainly for showing (which are good values!)

[richwang]

In this case theres no MCST yet as the condo is still less than a year after TOP.

"A management corporation (MC) is automatically formed when the strata title plan for the development is lodged with the Chief Surveyor and a strata title application is made to the Registrar of Titles, Singapore Land Authority. You as a subsidiary proprietor automatically becomes a member of the MC. The MC, being a legal entity, may sue and can be sued."

You can see the MCST number when you pay your monthly maintenance fees.

[IamWong]

"A management corporation (MC) is automatically formed when the strata title plan for the development is lodged with the Chief Surveyor and a strata title application is made to the Registrar of Titles, Singapore Land Authority. You as a subsidiary proprietor automatically becomes a member of the MC. The MC, being a legal entity, may sue and can be sued."

You can see the MCST number when you pay your monthly maintenance fees.

I do not understanding. What we were told is that we cannot call for an early AGM because the MCST number hasnt been given. This can only happen after CSC is achieved.

[richwang]

Honestly you need to get Lawyers and seek for professional advices.

https://www.bca.gov.sg/TOPCSC/topcsc_faqs.html

[IamWong]

understand*

[teddybear]

If there is no MCST number, how do you all pay your maintenance fund and sinking fund? Don't need to pay??

And developers almost always try to get CSC early in order to be able to collect the final payments from buyers, what is causing the delay?

I do not understanding. What we were told is that we cannot call for an early AGM because the MCST number hasnt been given. This can only happen after CSC is achieved.

[IamWong]

If there is no MCST number, how do you all pay your maintenance fund and sinking fund? Don't need to pay??

And developers almost always try to get CSC early in order to be able to collect the final payments from buyers, what is causing the delay?

Ok heres the thing. There are currently issues with the development. Developer refuses to acknowledge / speak to residents despite over 80 over email signatories. They claim that AGM is the only formal channel. The thing is, we were told we cannot call for a formal AGM when the MCST hasnt been formed. Called BCA and they confirmed too. We have to wait out the minimum 1 year period before there is an AGM. We are looking for advice now.

Developer probably does not want to speak with us until they have achieved csc and hence all liabilities would be on us.

[teddybear]

What kind of issues?
Different issues mean different solutions.
If it is defects repairs, you send them a quotation and just give them a deadline, saying if they didn't fix by a certain date (which they are supposed to according to law), then threaten to repair on your own and send them the bill!

Ok heres the thing. There are currently issues with the development. Developer refuses to acknowledge / speak to residents despite over 80 over email signatories. They claim that AGM is the only formal channel. The thing is, we were told we cannot call for a formal AGM when the MCST hasnt been formed. Called BCA and they confirmed too. We have to wait out the minimum 1 year period before there is an AGM. We are looking for advice now.

Developer probably does not want to speak with us until they have achieved csc and hence all liabilities would be on us.

[IamWong]

What kind of issues?
Different issues mean different solutions.
If it is defects repairs, you send them a quotation and just give them a deadline, saying if they didn't fix by a certain date (which they are supposed to according to law), then threaten to repair on your own and send them the bill!

Common facilities. General lack of thought and effort. Cheap materials being used. Bad finishing ( think trivelis). Pool leaking through our carpark. Completely unaesthetic lobby and design. Pay a visit to La Fiesta and you would understand.