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    Property cooling measures to remain for now

    Oct 10, 2016

    Wong Siew Ying


    Prices of private homes have been sliding for three years but the property cooling measures are here to stay for now, said National Development Minister Lawrence Wong.

    Flash estimates showed that prices fell 1.5 per cent in the third quarter from the second - the steepest quarter-on-quarter drop in seven years.

    That marked the 12th consecutive quarter of decline, and left overall private home prices 10.8 per cent lower from the third quarter of 2013.

    But Mr Wong, who took over the National Development portfolio a year ago, told The Straits Times last week: "It's not as though there is a price point for which we say, '(It) dropped by this per cent already, therefore I can change the measures'... We look at the broader considerations."

    Various cooling measures, including the additional buyer's stamp duty and loan curbs, that have been implemented in the last few years have weakened demand for new homes and sent prices falling.

    Mr Wong said the measures were introduced not just to put a lid on prices, but also "in response to a very unique global context and environment" marked by sluggish growth, very low interest rates and liquidity searching for higher yield.

    "If and when capital inflows come, be it from local or foreign sources, it's very easy to cause fluctuations in our property market, and we don't want that to happen," said Mr Wong, who is also Second Minister for Finance.

    He added that "we don't want to be a nation of property speculators".

    Taking into account the global outlook, the external environment and domestic situation, the Government has assessed that the cooling measures are necessary to keep the property market "stable and sustainable".

    OrangeTee's head of research and consultancy, Mr Wong Xian Yang, told The Straits Times that the cumulative dip in prices of 10.8 per cent would not seem big enough for the Government to act, given that prices rose 62 per cent from the second quarter of 2009 to the third quarter of 2013.

    "What would be more pertinent would be the pace of the fall. Should the pace of decline start to accelerate, say by more than 1.5 per cent each quarter, this could push the Government to gradually ease measures," he added.

    While relaxing some measures could help spur the real estate market and in turn support economic growth, Mr Wong said any move to use the property sector to stimulate the economy must be weighed against the cost and risk.

    He noted that there is still a relatively strong underlying demand for property and that buyers and investors have become more selective - favouring good locations and competitive pricing, going by the response to recent condominium launches.

    "That's not a bad thing because you want people to be more conscious and more thoughtful about their property purchases... and don't think of property as a sure bet," Mr Wong said.

    He also pointed out that the 21,500 or so unsold and uncompleted private homes as at the second quarter was the lowest on record .

    Meanwhile, there were a further 5,471 unsold and uncompleted executive condominiums - the lowest number in two years.

    Mr Wong added that the Government will continue to maintain a steady stream of sites by offering more of them on the reserve list, coupled with a few on the confirmed list under its land sales programme.

    Wong Siew Ying

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    Gov can see there are too many waiting in the sidelines with cash ready

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    Try to make the most hay while the sun shine..........
    Only another 2-3 years window I suppose?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tomutomi View Post
    Gov can see there are too many waiting in the sidelines with cash ready

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    If Ppty prices crash in 2016/2017

    sure will be removed

    Quote Originally Posted by teddybear View Post
    Try to make the most hay while the sun shine..........
    Only another 2-3 years window I suppose?

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    Quote Originally Posted by teddybear View Post
    Try to make the most hay while the sun shine..........
    Only another 2-3 years window I suppose?
    2 to 3 more years many more new entrants that qualify. New citizens lah, PRs that clear 3 year window before being eligible to buy lah. New foreigners that make their mark with new business models lah.

    Have guts can wait. Will be interesting.
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    http://www.stproperty.sg/articles-pr...flats/a/134530

    They waited for 3 year since 28-Aug-2013. They can only grow larger in size until another cooling measure to stop them.

    Those parent with cash sitting in the Bank think housing is their children problem not their problem can only blame themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcachon View Post
    http://www.stproperty.sg/articles-pr...flats/a/134530

    They waited for 3 year since 28-Aug-2013. They can only grow larger in size until another cooling measure to stop them.

    Those parent with cash sitting in the Bank think housing is their children problem not their problem can only blame themselves.
    It's not their problem lah.

    But then there are also swathes who will meet MOP for their flats in 3 years also. HDB has been building like crazy last few years!
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    When people buy 99-years Leasehold property, they as parents are already thinking that housing is their children's problem (since they will hang over a property whose lease may even run out before their children die of old age)..........

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcachon View Post
    http://www.stproperty.sg/articles-pr...flats/a/134530

    They waited for 3 year since 28-Aug-2013. They can only grow larger in size until another cooling measure to stop them.

    Those parent with cash sitting in the Bank think housing is their children problem not their problem can only blame themselves.

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    Very true.

    All wait until sianz.

    Feel like just pay the absd and buy 2 units.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teddybear View Post
    When people buy 99-years Leasehold property, they as parents are already thinking that housing is their children's problem (since they will hang over a property whose lease may even run out before their children die of old age)..........
    Not if they hand over 1 old LH and pass 1 new LH to children.

    But I really think no point do this for children. If pass to them without teaching them the rationale and significance of what they are holding, they will either choose not to work and underperform their potential, or squander it away to buy something they really like. It will be gone in a matter of months.
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    Power Bro
    If u have the $$ and prices have dropped 10%

    Quote Originally Posted by Werther View Post
    Very true.

    All wait until sianz.

    Feel like just pay the absd and buy 2 units.

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    Don't think the RICH thinks like you, else Wee Cho Yaw, Kwek Leng Beng, Ng Teng Fong etc will all have to close shop their business without appointing their children and relatives to top management positions, and as you said, "they will either choose not to work and underperform their potential, or squander it away to buy something they really like. It will be gone in a matter of months"!!!...

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelonguni View Post
    Not if they hand over 1 old LH and pass 1 new LH to children.

    But I really think no point do this for children. If pass to them without teaching them the rationale and significance of what they are holding, they will either choose not to work and underperform their potential, or squander it away to buy something they really like. It will be gone in a matter of months.

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    That's the most important thing that differentiates those families that remain rich for generations. People assume they just inherit wealth - they inherit much more than merely wealth.


    Quote Originally Posted by teddybear View Post
    Don't think the RICH thinks like you, else Wee Cho Yaw, Kwek Leng Beng, Ng Teng Fong etc will all have to close shop their business without appointing their children and relatives to top management positions, and as you said, "they will either choose not to work and underperform their potential, or squander it away to buy something they really like. It will be gone in a matter of months"!!!...
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    I have said so quite some time back, that it is unlikely for Govt to unwind any CM, particularly those that influence coffer amounts.

    This is the new "revenue" if Govt does not release any new land for sales.

    On the whole, the nation is agreeable and supportive about the CMs, and it balances the picture for long term sustainability of property in SG. Tax the multiple property owners disproportionately more, and severely restrict their new purchases, support the new buyers. The movements in prices and sales figures are so far on track.



    Quote Originally Posted by Werther View Post
    Very true.

    All wait until sianz.

    Feel like just pay the absd and buy 2 units.
    The three laws of Kelonguni:

    Where there is kelong, there is guni.
    No kelong no guni.
    More kelong = more guni.

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    "the nation is agreeable and supportive about the CMs, and it balances the picture for long term sustainability of property in SG"?

    Is that so? How do you know the nation is agreeable and suppportive about the CMs without any referendum?

    I think the CMs has already set the stage for the next big CRASH in motion.
    The discrimination against foreigners' purchase (via punitive ABSD) will make them think twice to buy even when price is low (after CRASH) and price may take a long time to recover after crash (without foreigners' buying participation)...........

    People can forget about quick property price recovery after CRASH like 2009 (which happened because of foreigners buying participation)!

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelonguni View Post
    I have said so quite some time back, that it is unlikely for Govt to unwind any CM, particularly those that influence coffer amounts.

    This is the new "revenue" if Govt does not release any new land for sales.

    On the whole, the nation is agreeable and supportive about the CMs, and it balances the picture for long term sustainability of property in SG. Tax the multiple property owners disproportionately more, and severely restrict their new purchases, support the new buyers. The movements in prices and sales figures are so far on track.

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    In current terms, there will be no recovery since there is no crash - the fire continues to simmer.

    Why need to consider foreigner participation so much? The main beneficiaries of an affluent nation should be its people, or people who are willing to be its people for the future. People who want to invest and stay foreign should pay the highest taxes. Else, there is no issue (at least to me) about Singaporeans (as well as those willing to be counted forward as Singaporeans) being the chief owners of Singaporean private properties.


    Quote Originally Posted by teddybear View Post
    "the nation is agreeable and supportive about the CMs, and it balances the picture for long term sustainability of property in SG"?

    Is that so? How do you know the nation is agreeable and suppportive about the CMs without any referendum?

    I think the CMs has already set the stage for the next big CRASH in motion.
    The discrimination against foreigners' purchase (via punitive ABSD) will make them think twice to buy even when price is low (after CRASH) and price may take a long time to recover after crash (without foreigners' buying participation)...........

    People can forget about quick property price recovery after CRASH like 2009 (which happened because of foreigners buying participation)!
    The three laws of Kelonguni:

    Where there is kelong, there is guni.
    No kelong no guni.
    More kelong = more guni.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelonguni View Post
    I have said so quite some time back, that it is unlikely for Govt to unwind any CM, particularly those that influence coffer amounts.

    This is the new "revenue" if Govt does not release any new land for sales.

    On the whole, the nation is agreeable and supportive about the CMs, and it balances the picture for long term sustainability of property in SG. Tax the multiple property owners disproportionately more, and severely restrict their new purchases, support the new buyers. The movements in prices and sales figures are so far on track.
    CMs doesn't target foreign buyers per see. CMs target foreign developers with their land banking. Why should the gov spend money on infrastructures and benefiting foreign developers, just by sitting on land.

    SG is such a small island. Without CMs any foreign developer can just sit on land and wait. Let the gov build the infrastruture and see the price increasing.

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