City fringe condos

[teddybear]

The FACT is, not all buildings will go enbloc (and the government and Ministers had also told you that)! Why you all still doubt those Ministers and the way you said it is like you are treating them as though they are lying to you????

Soon more and more leasehold properties in Singapore will expire with worth of $ZERO to be handed over to the land owner (which is the Singapore Government) for free! (AND now Singaporeans had finally seen and experience it in the Geylang 60-years leasehold properties' case!)

The problem is, in Singapore, buildings won't last 1000 years lah...

Once the building go enbloc around 50-60 years age, even FH can easily become LH (as seen from certain tricks by developers which are being followed by others).

1000 years? Think again.

[teddybear]

The truth is already prevailing, and no amount of FAKE NEWS, HALF-TRUTHS can cover up the FACTS.................

Bro, would suggest saving your Oxygen on 1000 Ears Peek Prize lah, no need to produce more Carbon Dioxide for Global Warming.

If the Narrow-minded simply can't see value beyond the CCR, just let it be...

The FACT is, not all buildings will go enbloc (and the government and Ministers had also told you that)! Why you all still doubt those Ministers and the way you said it is like you are treating them as though they are lying to you????

Soon more and more leasehold properties in Singapore will expire with worth of $ZERO to be handed over to the land owner (which is the Singapore Government) for free! (AND now Singaporeans had finally seen and experience it in the Geylang 60-years leasehold properties' case!)

[anythingwhatever]

The FACT is, not all buildings will go enbloc (and the government and Ministers had also told you that)! Why you all still doubt those Ministers and the way you said it is like you are treating them as though they are lying to you????

Soon more and more leasehold properties in Singapore will expire with worth of $ZERO to be handed over to the land owner (which is the Singapore Government) for free! (AND now Singaporeans had finally seen and experience it in the Geylang 60-years leasehold properties' case!)

Well, I don't think you really understood my previous post...

The trend is, more and more of your precious old FH Projects will be enbloc by the time they reach 50-60 years of age, due to buildings deterioration, increasing maintenance costs, escalating repairs, one way or another. 1000 Ears is nothing but a pipe dream.

Upon enbloc, these FH owners will be competing for fewer and fewer FH units in the market, or simply have to move to LH properties which form the majorities

Also, upon enbloc, developers can easily turn the new project sitting on FH sites into LH (unless laws are amended to forbid this practice).

Now, for such FH-to-LH cases, only the developers would benefit as they hold on to the land for 1000 Ears,. The homeowners would lose out to even LH99 Owners as they don't have 1% chance to initiate enbloc, since the land belongs to the Developers

For the current batch of FH owners, good for them, but can they/family really hold on to their properties for 1000 Ears? I seriously doubt so..

Fake News? Look again:

http://m.stproperty.sg/articles-prop...sites/a/168526

[anythingwhatever]

The truth is already prevailing, and no amount of FAKE NEWS, HALF-TRUTHS can cover up the FACTS.................

To be honest, there's really no need to use so much RED BOLD text to highlight your point...

I suppose I'm not the only one getting irritated by such antics.

Anyway, good night to everyone.

[Laguna]

anyway. amidst all the discussion going on above... the plot of land near serangoon gardens was recently sold at a bullish price.. and the expected selling psf is $1600 onwards.. and its not even city fringe..........!!!

yup...let's see the market take up rate or the size of the units
3 bedders 750 sf

[anythingwhatever]

yup...let's see the market take up rate or the size of the units
3 bedders 750 sf

Cramp.

[anythingwhatever]

yup...let's see the market take up rate or the size of the units
3 bedders 750 sf

Oh wait, recall 4-Bedders at 646sqft as below.

3BR @ 750sqft considered very spacious still...

The Smallest 4 Bedder ever?

[tonymontana]

To be honest, there's really no need to use so much RED BOLD text to highlight your point...

I suppose I'm not the only one getting irritated by such antics.

Anyway, good night to everyone.

when teddybear just concentrate on giving opinion on the condos in D10, i read with great interest. he has got good eye for location.

whenever i c the bold red letters, i just skip reading.

*yawn*. conclusion: teddy is good. but his rhetoric gets in the way of us appreciating him. haha

[tonymontana]

yup...let's see the market take up rate or the size of the units
3 bedders 750 sf

the trend is towards smaller spaces with space optimization. those who are holding on to huge freehold D10 units (20 year old condo size 2500 sft in grange road for eg) will find fewer potential suitors when trying to cash out.

[tonymontana]

Oh wait, recall 4-Bedders at 646sqft as below.

3BR @ 750sqft considered very spacious still...

OMG. where is this? jade residence?

[anythingwhatever]

OMG. where is this? jade residence?

No, guess one more time...

[DCC]

Oh wait, recall 4-Bedders at 646sqft as below.

3BR @ 750sqft considered very spacious still...

It is Central Imperial. ICIC

[anythingwhatever]

It is Central Imperial. ICIC

I saw I saw...

That should be the most compact 4BR I have ever seen in Singapore.

If you have came across anything smaller, feel free to share with us too.

[tonymontana]

you guys are like walking encyclopedia of condo in singapore.

[anythingwhatever]

when teddybear just concentrate on giving opinion on the condos in D10, i read with great interest. he has got good eye for location.

whenever i c the bold red letters, i just skip reading.

*yawn*. conclusion: teddy is good. but his rhetoric gets in the way of us appreciating him. haha

The Jekyll side is good...

The Hyde side better hide.

[anythingwhatever]

you guys are like walking encyclopedia of condo in singapore.

Still has much to learn...

[Laguna]

Oh wait, recall 4-Bedders at 646sqft as below.

3BR @ 750sqft considered very spacious still...

see this how big is a four bedders 800sf+

http://www.propertyfishing.com/berkeley-residences/

[anythingwhatever]

see this how big is a four bedders 800sf+

http://www.propertyfishing.com/berkeley-residences/

This one actually can be considered close to 900 sqft:

[Laguna]

you guys are like walking encyclopedia of condo in singapore.

U shall read the BOND thread.....in the coffee talk...then u know

[tonymontana]

U shall read the BOND thread.....in the coffee talk...then u know

i know you guys are damn good. btw it's clear to me sizes are shrinking, just 10 years ago 980 sft 2 bedroom is the norm in OCR, now seeing 700sft as 2 bedroom.

[tonymontana]

This one actually can be considered close to 900 sqft:

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i think i've seen this developers' work in another condo - park residences kovan.
their materials and finishing quite decent, good layout for small units, their appliances (smeg washer and fridge) is hidden into a custom built cabinets, white marble for flooring,
and even aircon blower unit is nicely hidden, balcony has sliding sun-shade.

however the layout of this 4 bedder CMI, it's like a narrow corridor with dorm rooms.
quantum should be fine, it's designed for rental play.

[anythingwhatever]

i know you guys are damn good. btw it's clear to me sizes are shrinking, just 10 years ago 980 sft 2 bedroom is the norm in OCR, now seeing 700sft as 2 bedroom.

Case in point: The longer ones wait, the smaller the units. Buy now.

[anythingwhatever]

i think i've seen this developers' work in another condo - park residences kovan.
their materials and finishing quite decent, good layout for small units, their appliances (smeg washer and fridge) is hidden into a custom built cabinets, white marble for flooring,
and even aircon blower unit is nicely hidden, balcony has sliding sun-shade.

however the layout of this 4 bedder CMI, it's like a narrow corridor with dorm rooms.
quantum should be fine, it's designed for rental play.

Indeed.

Curiously, based on floor plans,
the 646sf at Centra Imperial appears to be more spacious than
the 883sf at Berkeley Residences.

[tonymontana]

Indeed.

Curiously, based on floor plans,
the 646sf at Centra Imperial appears to be more spacious than
the 883sf at Berkeley Residences.

too many rooms. they should have open up at least that one room next to the living area, then nicer.
but this layout is good for rental play. can have multiple tenants. and quantum will be lower so can get better yield.
layout designed for landlording.

[Laguna]

Case in point: The longer ones wait, the smaller the units. Buy now.

Timing is more critical rather than rush in because of size.
I rather have a big place, older one but not too old with lot of space...and can do up to my taste
anyway, not moving house anymore.....so happy with where i live

[anythingwhatever]

Timing is more critical rather than rush in because of size.
I rather have a big place, older one but not too old with lot of space...and can do up to my taste
anyway, not moving house anymore.....so happy with where i live

Laguna Park?

[Laguna]

Laguna Park?

You shall see the Penthouse unit facing sea at Laguna Park.....

Laguna Park just formed Sales Committee last week, I think, this is the third attempt already. Chances of having it sold is slim.

Prices therefore will be dropping if cannot sell, and maintenance is really a big problem...

I have no interest in the project

[Topline]

You shall see the Penthouse unit facing sea at Laguna Park.....

Laguna Park just formed Sales Committee last week, I think, this is the third attempt already. Chances of having it sold is slim.

Prices therefore will be dropping if cannot sell, and maintenance is really a big problem...

I have no interest in the project

Why are the chances slim? Residents don't want to sell?

[Kelonguni]

Why are the chances slim? Residents don't want to sell?

Their asking price could be too high?

[tonymontana]

Their asking price could be too high?

670,000 square feet plot, it's huge. a bit hard to chew for developers? say, at 800 psf ppr for the MRT and superb sea frontage, we're talking about a 1.5B valued enbloc.