The Aristo @ Amber (D15, FH)

[fiat500]

$1300 psf for Aristo ?? Do yr homework it has already hit $1550psf recently just waiting to get listed on URA. The last listed transaction was for a low floor at $1480 psf. Most owners are asking all above $1500psf with some up to $2000psf. There are lots of enquiries and offers around $1500-1520psf but owners for the high floors rejected these offers, otherwise my job to sell would be easier.

Btw, are u the guy who complained about afternoon sun for Aristo ?? I am just wondering where did the sun go for the past few weeks ? Seem like it has been raining all the while since September. So for now, afternoon or morning sun facing doesnt really matter anymore.

The overcast weather is only temporary but the facing is permanent n you cant change that,sooner or later the hot n sunny weather will be back..hahahahahahahahahaha

[carbuncle]

The overcast weather is only temporary but the facing is permanent n you cant change that,sooner or later the hot n sunny weather will be back..hahahahahahahahahaha

I am bit of a geography idiot... Global warming leads to more heat or more rain?? Temperatures rise, sea levels rise, doesnt that mean more rain gets formed, results in flooding and rising sea level vicious cycle... More heat begets more water produces more rain clouds?

[hyenergix]

I am bit of a geography idiot... Global warming leads to more heat or more rain?? Temperatures rise, sea levels rise, doesnt that mean more rain gets formed, results in flooding and rising sea level vicious cycle... More heat begets more rain produces more rain clouds?

U forgotten the ice shelves at the poles.

[Jonathan0503]

I am bit of a geography idiot... Global warming leads to more heat or more rain?? Temperatures rise, sea levels rise, doesnt that mean more rain gets formed, results in flooding and rising sea level vicious cycle... More heat begets more water produces more rain clouds?

Actually quite true.

Have been seeing more and more rains in the afternoon. So maybe west facing not such a big issue anymore

[Shawn]

The overcast weather is only temporary but the facing is permanent n you cant change that,sooner or later the hot n sunny weather will be back..hahahahahahahahahaha

To be honest I have been missing the hot sun already. Wonder when we will have hot weather again cause its been raining for months...

So I personally felt, units with afternoon sun doesnt really bother or make a big issue as last time. In fact, one day, units with afternoon sun will be highly desirable as we get less and lesser sun with the climatic change. So those with sun facing will be highly appreciated especially by foreigners who like to skin deep and tan.

[fiat500]

To be honest I have been missing the hot sun already. Wonder when we will have hot weather again cause its been raining for months...

So I personally felt, units with afternoon sun doesnt really bother or make a big issue as last time. In fact, one day, units with afternoon sun will be highly desirable as we get less and lesser sun with the climatic change. So those with sun facing will be highly appreciated especially by foreigners who like to skin deep and tan.

Thats what u think but i beg to differ..like i said this overcast weather is not permanent,soon the hot, humid n sunny weather will be back in no time..this time it will be even much hotter than before due to global warming.
The caucasians like the sunlight but not our humid weather.
Majority will not be keen to rent or buy a west facing unit..

[DC33_2008]

You may want to do some research on climate change before commenting on it. Get the facts right.

To be honest I have been missing the hot sun already. Wonder when we will have hot weather again cause its been raining for months...

So I personally felt, units with afternoon sun doesnt really bother or make a big issue as last time. In fact, one day, units with afternoon sun will be highly desirable as we get less and lesser sun with the climatic change. So those with sun facing will be highly appreciated especially by foreigners who like to skin deep and tan.

[Shawn]

Thats what u think but i beg to differ..like i said this overcast weather is not permanent,soon the hot, humid n sunny weather will be back in no time..this time it will be even much hotter than before due to global warming.
The caucasians like the sunlight but not our humid weather.
Majority will not be keen to rent or buy a west facing unit..

Whatever it is, it is a fact that it has been raining for the past 6 months more than there was sun. Even if there is sun, there are always ways to protect from excessive heat for eg. install awning, window films, or double glaze windows to lower down the heat. Alternatively, one can place tall plants to hinder from facing direct sunlight at strategic locations in the house or at the balcony.

Anything is possible. Just ask the buyers of Aalto and Meyer Rise why they still paying $2000psf for afternoon facing units ?? Their answers - cause its the best facing with sea and city views.

As an agent for more than 15 years, I dont see the sun as a major selling obstacle. More obstacle are units with no or lousy facing - i.e. no views. You can see many of these units in suburban areas facing another condo or HDB block, or facing schools or dirty rivers. They offer no investment values.

Aristo, Aalto, The Cape and Meyerise are fine limited freehold developments very close to amenities, shopping, seaside, transport and yet close to the city. They can never go wrong. The only ones who say these condos are no values are people who cant afford to buy them and so badmouthing them - such a futile effort.

[ezonme]

Whatever it is, it is a fact that it has been raining for the past 6 months more than there was sun. Even if there is sun, there are always ways to protect from excessive heat for eg. install awning, window films, or double glaze windows to lower down the heat. Alternatively, one can place tall plants to hinder from facing direct sunlight at strategic locations in the house or at the balcony.

Anything is possible. Just ask the buyers of Aalto and Meyer Rise why they still paying $2000psf for afternoon facing units ?? Their answers - cause its the best facing with sea and city views.

As an agent for more than 15 years, I dont see the sun as a major selling obstacle. More obstacle are units with no or lousy facing - i.e. no views. You can see many of these units in suburban areas facing another condo or HDB block, or facing schools or dirty rivers. They offer no investment values.

Aristo, Aalto, The Cape and Meyerise are fine limited freehold developments very close to amenities, shopping, seaside, transport and yet close to the city. They can never go wrong. The only ones who say these condos are no values are people who cant afford to buy them and so badmouthing them - such a futile effort.

10 years series statement from a snake oil saleman! I wonder why do agents advertise "no morning/afternoon sun"? Maybe is to take up the space in the advertising space....

[devilplate]

afternoon sun not a major obstacle provided the unit got superb views to compensate.....if not it is a SUPER MAJOR FLAW

[fiat500]

Whatever it is, it is a fact that it has been raining for the past 6 months more than there was sun. Even if there is sun, there are always ways to protect from excessive heat for eg. install awning, window films, or double glaze windows to lower down the heat. Alternatively, one can place tall plants to hinder from facing direct sunlight at strategic locations in the house or at the balcony.

Anything is possible. Just ask the buyers of Aalto and Meyer Rise why they still paying $2000psf for afternoon facing units ?? Their answers - cause its the best facing with sea and city views.

As an agent for more than 15 years, I dont see the sun as a major selling obstacle. More obstacle are units with no or lousy facing - i.e. no views. You can see many of these units in suburban areas facing another condo or HDB block, or facing schools or dirty rivers. They offer no investment values.

Aristo, Aalto, The Cape and Meyerise are fine limited freehold developments very close to amenities, shopping, seaside, transport and yet close to the city. They can never go wrong. The only ones who say these condos are no values are people who cant afford to buy them and so badmouthing them - such a futile effort.

the front stacks of stack 1 n 2 are the only stacks with seaview n they are pocketed seaview only due to silversea n cote d azur blockage.
the other 2 west facing stacks of stack 3 n 4 do not have much views as they are directly facing amber residences.

whatever u installed (blinds,window films etc) to block out the heat n glare from the west sun would not help much. u will cut down the glare but the heat is still there.
the worst thing is it will darken up the house..

[marktkt22]

Freaking hot sun in march,
Should be until sep ....
Prepared for scorching heat

[Shawn]

Freaking hot sun in march,
Should be until sep ....
Prepared for scorching heat

See below for my reply

[Shawn]

Freaking hot sun in march,
Should be until sep ....
Prepared for scorching heat

Yup its March now and its still raining. Today its still raining...The scorching heat doesnt seem to be here yet after half a year of rain and gloomy weather..

By the time the sun comes, the haze will also come and block the sun hahaha.

As an agent, I dont see afternoon sun a major issue for luxury and prime location properties. Its only an issue for HDB dwellers and typical Singaporeans buying low end condos who only try to find reasons or excuses to bring down prices. These tactics dont sell anymore in Singapore. Maybe 10 years ago yes but not now....

[Shawn]

the front stacks of stack 1 n 2 are the only stacks with seaview n they are pocketed seaview only due to silversea n cote d azur blockage.
the other 2 west facing stacks of stack 3 n 4 do not have much views as they are directly facing amber residences.

whatever u installed (blinds,window films etc) to block out the heat n glare from the west sun would not help much. u will cut down the glare but the heat is still there.
the worst thing is it will darken up the house..

I thought the sun brighten up the whole house instead of darkening it ?? This is a very strange statement. Some people like the sun facing cause the unit will be brighter instead of a dark (no sun facing) unit. Btw u seem to know a bit about The Aristo. I can bet u have some interest in this development.

If u keen to buy let me know i got a few units on hand...Buy now before the price goes up further. Last transaction was for $1550psf for the 807 sq.ft mid floor. Stack 1, 2 and 3 have reasonably good seaviews stretching from Big Splash to Fort Road. At the same time, Stack 2 and 3 have good city views too on the right side. Stack 4 is the only one without much seaviews but just a small pocket of sea between the gaps in Silversea. I know much much more than u cause I got recent live photos taken from the mid floor of the uncompleted building.

The Aristo sea view is still much much better than The Cape, Seaview, One Amber, The Esta, The Shore, Amber Residences...I can bet with my 15 years experience as an agent putting my reputation at stake. All those condos I mentioned are not selling cheap as u know. So I can bet when The Aristo TOP it will fetch a new benchmark in psf price for that location. Already The Cape has transacted at $2000psf, so The Aristo will be there soon.

And The Aristo developer is giving quality furnishes. Just saw some of the accessories they use for the toilet its amazing. They using specialised TOTO bathroom accessories from Japan. And they using 60cm x 60cm marble slab for the living and kitchen area. And solid teak wood flooring for the rooms. The bath tub is also custom made with marble tiles it looks hotel like. And the window pane is huge unlike those at Silversea.

My sincere advise to all who keen on Aristo. Buy now before its too late. It wont be that price ($1500-1600psf) anymore in 3 months from now...Lets meet here in July and see if I saying the truth k. Good luck.

[Leeds]

I thought the sun brighten up the whole house instead of darkening it ?? This is a very strange statement. Some people like the sun facing cause the unit will be brighter instead of a dark (no sun facing) unit. Btw u seem to know a bit about The Aristo. I can bet u have some interest in this development.

If u keen to buy let me know i got a few units on hand...Buy now before the price goes up further. Last transaction was for $1550psf for the 807 sq.ft mid floor. Stack 1, 2 and 3 have reasonably good seaviews stretching from Big Splash to Fort Road. At the same time, Stack 2 and 3 have good city views too on the right side. Stack 4 is the only one without much seaviews but just a small pocket of sea between the gaps in Silversea. I know much much more than u cause I got recent live photos taken from the mid floor of the uncompleted building.

The Aristo sea view is still much much better than The Cape, Seaview, One Amber, The Esta, The Shore, Amber Residences...I can bet with my 15 years experience as an agent putting my reputation at stake. All those condos I mentioned are not selling cheap as u know. So I can bet when The Aristo TOP it will fetch a new benchmark in psf price for that location. Already The Cape has transacted at $2000psf, so The Aristo will be there soon.

And The Aristo developer is giving quality furnishes. Just saw some of the accessories they use for the toilet its amazing. They using specialised TOTO bathroom accessories from Japan. And they using 60cm x 60cm marble slab for the living and kitchen area. And solid teak wood flooring for the rooms. The bath tub is also custom made with marble tiles it looks hotel like. And the window pane is huge unlike those at Silversea.

My sincere advise to all who keen on Aristo. Buy now before its too late. It wont be that price ($1500-1600psf) anymore in 3 months from now...Lets meet here in July and see if I saying the truth k. Good luck.

FEO acquired Amber Glades for about $1050 psf ppr in Mar 2011 and is not redeveloping the site yet. The break even for the new project at the site is about $1500 to $1600 psf. If FEO is confident with The Cape now selling for $1800 to $2000 psf, why is FEO not redeveloping the Amber Glades site? Was told that FEO intends to lease out the existing units at Amber Glades within the next quarter. It is certainly not a good sign to buy now.

[Jonathan0503]

FEO acquired Amber Glades for about $1050 psf ppr in Mar 2011 and is not redeveloping the site yet. The break even for the new project at the site is about $1500 to $1600 psf. If FEO is confident with The Cape now selling for $1800 to $2000 psf, why is FEO not redeveloping the Amber Glades site? Was told that FEO intends to lease out the existing units at Amber Glades within the next quarter. It is certainly not a good sign to buy now.

If the reason the developer is not launching new sites is because price is quite depressed, isn't it a good time to buy now?

[Leeds]

If the reason the developer is not launching new sites is because price is quite depressed, isn't it a good time to buy now?

For developers to lease out their en bloc purchased units instead of redeveloping the sites they acquired hold memories of 1997 when many developers did the same thing. Is this the start of the cycle?

We can go ahead and and buy now if we believe FEO is delaying the redevelopment of the site for better prices two to three years down the road. Alternatively, FEO may think that the market is likely to be depressed for the next two years and leasing make more sense now.

From all angles, the latter seems to be the likely case.

[Shawn]

FEO acquired Amber Glades for about $1050 psf ppr in Mar 2011 and is not redeveloping the site yet. The break even for the new project at the site is about $1500 to $1600 psf. If FEO is confident with The Cape now selling for $1800 to $2000 psf, why is FEO not redeveloping the Amber Glades site? Was told that FEO intends to lease out the existing units at Amber Glades within the next quarter. It is certainly not a good sign to buy now.

Any developer can lease their enbloc property but they can only do so for up to a maximum of 5 years before they are forced to start launching new development. That is Singapore's law

And Far East is doing a good thing if they were to lease the development cause they are holding this precious land for future launches and Far East is expecting the market to recover big time in 2-3 years from now.

As an agent, I got tonnes and tonnes of enquiries especially from foreigners who are keen to buy property in Singapore. Some are now contemplating of buying property despite the ABSD regulation as now these foreigners are even willing to hold out their properties for long term gain. This shows how confident foreigners are with our local property market. The ABSD also brings added level of stability to the property prices in Singapore.

Those who lack confidence are the locals who try to bring down their own local market to benefit themselves. In 1998-2003, the property bust happens but its unlikely to repeat again now. Simple reasons being Asia is no longer like Asia of 10 years ago. Asia is more resilient, better managed, and lots of cash inflows. What I can only see is further appreciation of property prices but at a gradual pace. This year will see a slowdown but next year the momentum will pick up. Dont expect a 20%-30% decline in property prices, it wont happen. My bet is just a max of 10%-15% in the worst case scenario and then the market will go on an upturn again.

[Shawn]

FEO acquired Amber Glades for about $1050 psf ppr in Mar 2011 and is not redeveloping the site yet. The break even for the new project at the site is about $1500 to $1600 psf. If FEO is confident with The Cape now selling for $1800 to $2000 psf, why is FEO not redeveloping the Amber Glades site? Was told that FEO intends to lease out the existing units at Amber Glades within the next quarter. It is certainly not a good sign to buy now.

Amber Glades site is not a good site honestly speaking as its blocked by few condos all around it with little or no seaview. In addition, it is too close to the busy main road and the bus stop. Its not a good comparison with The Aristo which is sited at one of the best site away from the busy main road but yet close to the bus stop, shopping mall, sea, and other amenities. In addition, Aristo offered a better seaview than the Amberglade site.

Aristo is right in front of the swimming club and next to the future Amber mrt station. It can never go wrong.

[fiat500]

Amber Glades site is not a good site honestly speaking as its blocked by few condos all around it with little or no seaview. In addition, it is too close to the busy main road and the bus stop. Its not a good comparison with The Aristo which is sited at one of the best site away from the busy main road but yet close to the bus stop, shopping mall, sea, and other amenities. In addition, Aristo offered a better seaview than the Amberglade site.

Aristo is right in front of the swimming club and next to the future Amber mrt station. It can never go wrong.

Ha ha dont anyhow make assumption that I m keen on Aristo..definitely i m not.
I do agree the location is good but the project itself SUCKs really big time,sad to say.
The layouts of all the 4stacks are terrible,baywindows everywhere,planter boxes n excessive balconies eating up yr living space indoor..only pocketed seaview for front 2stacks,the other 2back WEST facing stacks are looking directly@ amber residences.
Minimum small facilities with no parking space for yr guest inside n outside.
All these negative features are enough to deter my interest.
there is no news on where the mrt station would b built,there is no such thing as amber mrt till its in black n white..

[fiat500]

Amber Glades site is not a good site honestly speaking as its blocked by few condos all around it with little or no seaview. In addition, it is too close to the busy main road and the bus stop. Its not a good comparison with The Aristo which is sited at one of the best site away from the busy main road but yet close to the bus stop, shopping mall, sea, and other amenities. In addition, Aristo offered a better seaview than the Amberglade site.

Aristo is right in front of the swimming club and next to the future Amber mrt station. It can never go wrong.

Do not be fooled by all d salesman talk..obviously he has many units on hand n he's having a tough time disposing it.
Hahahahahahahahaha wahahahahaha

[Leeds]

Do not be fooled by all d salesman talk..obviously he has many units on hand n he's having a tough time disposing it.
Hahahahahahahahaha wahahahahaha

Could not agree with you more.

A good portion of the Amber Glades site is right in front of the Chinese Swimming Club which is low rise. Thus, the site has better sea view than Amber Residence or Aristo.

FEO acquired Amber Glades before the CM5, so they are not bound to build and sell the new development within the 5 yrs period.

Prices are at 20-year high and not inline with income. This is both a social and political problem which the government is trying to address. Thus far, results are beginning to show with huge supply of discounted BTO flats and private land sales. More things are expected to come.

[DaytonaSS]

bro shawn, how many units u own in the area? got buy 5-6 units or not? if not u help so many pple become potential millionaire for what? your property commission so little compared to the potential returns u can make in a few months by buying a few units. Stop helping pple u can pick up a few units yourself and make the $500 psf range when the mrt news is confirm.

btw no offence, really, when i call your adverisement for viewing in D15. Dont tell me west sun doesnt matter k. Cos i m spending the $$$ to buy, i should decided if west sun matter ; ) Till then good luck with your sales.

[thomastansb]

The layout is really

[DaytonaSS]

The layout is really

seriously bro, i m lost for words!!

[minority]

Read a few post. Can I safely assume this project is good for sun lovers who like to bake in the sun? While living in a smallish appt. spending most of the time in the balcony? what about the pool? any pool? Can beat Mountbatten suits Pool?

[marktkt22]

V v hot sun .... Cant stand it.
West sun unit .....it a daily sauna.
Sure can slim down

[carbuncle]

Read a few post. Can I safely assume this project is good for sun lovers who like to bake in the sun? While living in a smallish appt. spending most of the time in the balcony? what about the pool? any pool? Can beat Mountbatten suits Pool?

A bit weird for neighbours and neighbouring projects to see you sunbathing in your balcony right - I mean, if you have nice physique they will have hard time not to look... On the other hand if your physique sucks they will have to draw their curtains from the eye sore... Lol. Coz they not expecting to see such 'things' when their unit not facing the pool.

[ezonme]

i was really bothered by unethical snake oil salesman claiming west sun is not an issue when buying a million $$ apartment.
I used to stay in a flat facing west sun and I can honestly said 4-7pm is the worst timing. Temperature increase by at least 3-5 deg.