Hundred Trees (Former Hong Leong Garden @West Coast Drive)

[jonleelk]

Centro and SilverSea. Both are babies of Singapore's richest man

and both are not selling well.

btw...today newspaper got full colour ad for hundred tree liao... coming soon...

is this the first time where u see full colour ad even before the preview?

[Allthepies]

is this the first time where u see full colour ad even before the preview?

nope, just a week or 2 earlier, The Interlace is also putting up full cour ad... so i guess the response for these 2 projects not going too well?

[jsh]

just checked with marketing agents . price of 100 trees is from $930 to $980 psf. can place booking now. soft launch is on 24&25 sept.

[bargain hunter]

in the boom days of 2007, CDL also advertised full page colour ads for the super high range Cliveden @ Grange for a few weeks saying coming soon, then launched it at the peak.

and both are not selling well.

btw...today newspaper got full colour ad for hundred tree liao... coming soon...

is this the first time where u see full colour ad even before the preview?

[pinkamoon]

heard from agents that u have to give a blank chq to go in as VIP...

[jonleelk]

just checked with marketing agents . price of 100 trees is from $930 to $980 psf. can place booking now. soft launch is on 24&25 sept.

If CDL also selling at this type of price for preview, for the price they paid for the land, other developers don't need to say liao...

[Lucas]

heard from agents that u have to give a blank chq to go in as VIP...

I got the following e-mail from an agent, FYI.
From the site map and layout of the condo, more than half of the units will be FACING AYE. Good luck man



Dear Prospects,

Good day to you. The full-fledge floor plans for are ready for your perusal
Do follow the link below for downloads of e-brochures:http://www.propertylaunch.sg/images/hundredtree/HundredTrees_Flrplans.pdfFor more information or ZIP file of e-brochures should you not be able to download, kindly go to:http://www.propertylaunch.sg/Hundred%20Tree.php
We would like to bring good news that as of now, more than 70 cheques have been collected for the Priority Booking! We would strongly encourage you to be in the Priority Booking list should you have size-down on your unit type as soon as possible. (Do note that cheque submission now still does not constitute a sale until the final Preview day.

How Priority Booking Works are as follow:
1) Purchaser size down a unit type of their choice. (i.e: 1, 2, 3 or 4 bedrooms etc)
2) Purchaser & us meet up to do up the documentation and cheque collection for booking, we will also attached a banker to purchaser for Mortgage Loan IPA(In-Principal Approval)
3) On Preview Day @ 10 am or earlier, Preview Prices will be released.
4) We will either meet purchaser @ the showflat or call you to inform you of the Price.[/font]
5) If you are fine with the Price, on verbal/via SMS, you will instruct us to hand in the cheque for booking. We will fill in the amount on your cheque based on 5% of the quantum price of the unit.
6) If price is not right, we will not submit for you and we will return you your cheque. There is no penalty.

Due to the tremendous overwhelming response, we are confident and expecting the 396 Units of to be fully sold in 2-3 days! Do call me @ XXXXXX Or Our Sales Hotline @ XXXXXXXX should you have queries or for Priority Booking meet up, we will also get in touch with you shortly with this issue.

Till then, have a great weekend ahead! Many thanks..

[jonleelk]

I got the following e-mail from an agent, FYI.
From the site map and layout of the condo, more than half of the units will be FACING AYE. Good luck man

At least the AYE facing units are in a N->NE facing...thus it will be cool in the afternoon. Trade off some noise with the sun.

[jdm]

At least the AYE facing units are in a N->NE facing...thus it will be cool in the afternoon. Trade off some noise with the sun.

I would be really shocked if people buy the units facing the AYE at 900psf+. And please don't tell me 100 trees will block the noise.

Noon sun is not really 1pm sun, but from 5-7pm which is when the sun is more at a direct angle. Half the time the weather is cloudy in Singapore, so I'd rather have the sun(or lack of) than the noise.

[jonleelk]

I would be really shocked if people buy the units facing the AYE at 900psf+. And please don't tell me 100 trees will block the noise.

Noon sun is not really 1pm sun, but from 5-7pm which is when the sun is more at a direct angle. Half the time the weather is cloudy in Singapore, so I'd rather have the sun(or lack of) than the noise.

The hundred trees are actually planted on the entrance side facing the landed...so will not help to block the AYE noise at all...

btw...afternoon sun more jialat from 2-5pm...warm up the whole room. After 5pm not too bad liao.

[jonleelk]

Landed or aye side, both I won't pay $900psf...

[jonleelk]

I got the following e-mail from an agent, FYI.

How Priority Booking Works are as follow:
1) Purchaser size down a unit type of their choice. (i.e: 1, 2, 3 or 4 bedrooms etc)
2) Purchaser & us meet up to do up the documentation and cheque collection for booking, we will also attached a banker to purchaser for Mortgage Loan IPA(In-Principal Approval)
3) On Preview Day @ 10 am or earlier, Preview Prices will be released.
4) We will either meet purchaser @ the showflat or call you to inform you of the Price.
5) If you are fine with the Price, on verbal/via SMS, you will instruct us to hand in the cheque for booking. We will fill in the amount on your cheque based on 5% of the quantum price of the unit.
6) If price is not right, we will not submit for you and we will return you your cheque. There is no penalty.

Hm...isn't the blank cheque supposed to be totally blank, ie no signature. How can agent just fill in the amt and submit for booking without signature?

[bargain hunter]

blank cheque is with signature AND developer's account name. only amount is blank. consolation is that the money will only be entered into developer's account and not anyone elses LOL

Hm...isn't the blank cheque supposed to be totally blank, ie no signature. How can agent just fill in the amt and submit for booking without signature?

[jonleelk]

blank cheque is with signature AND developer's account name. only amount is blank. consolation is that the money will only be entered into developer's account and not anyone elses LOL

Hm...different developer different practise? FEO project, their own agent only collect totally blank cheque, no name no signature.

[Lucas]

Hm...different developer different practise? FEO project, their own agent only collect totally blank cheque, no name no signature.

Huh? What is the purpose of collecting just a cheque without anything on it?

[jsh]

Landed or aye side, both I won't pay $900psf...

its immaterial whether u buy or not. u dont want to pay its your wish but u must understand that clever sizing of the units thus ensuring a lower quantum will attract buyers.price psf may be high but for a 2 b/rm it cost 700+k so quite affordable.

so long as they make the facilities very good & the finishings of superior quality i think buyers will bite. its afterall a 956years property.

[echotrain]

Blank cheque just anyhow sign if you are worried. When really want to book, whip out the correctly signed one :P

[xebay11]

its immaterial whether u buy or not. u dont want to pay its your wish but u must understand that clever sizing of the units thus ensuring a lower quantum will attract buyers.price psf may be high but for a 2 b/rm it cost 700+k so quite affordable.

so long as they make the facilities very good & the finishings of superior quality i think buyers will bite. its afterall a 956years property.

When it comes to 999 or FH properties best to get those with gracious living. Affordable or not, don't get taken in by the good finishings, ask yourself logically, why pay to live near the AYE? Would the nice finishings help to diminish the hellish noise and pollution? you can always experience these uncomfortable conditions for free by just standing next to the AYE, in this project the long lease would work against it, I don't think anyone would want him/herself and his descendants to experience the smog, smell, dust and noise for the next ten generations, might as well buy 99 yr LH with nice views and good facing, if affordability is an issue.

[jsh]

When it comes to 999 or FH properties best to get those with gracious living. Affordable or not, don't get taken in by the good finishings, ask yourself logically, why pay to live near the AYE? Would the nice finishings help to diminish the hellish noise and pollution? you can always experience these uncomfortable conditions for free by just standing next to the AYE, in this project the long lease would work against it, I don't think anyone would want him/herself and his descendants to experience the smog, smell, dust and noise for the next ten generations, might as well buy 99 yr LH with nice views and good facing, if affordability is an issue.

Is there any difference between AYE & ECP? Why is it that no one bats an eyelid when Silversea sells at $1300psf. Also Laguna is going enbloc for an astronomical sum. These condos are all next to the ECP. Is one expressway different from another? I believe noise is the main issue here as with generous planting of trees & shrubs much of the dust & smog can be trapped.

[proud owner]

Is there any difference between AYE & ECP? Why is it that no one bats an eyelid when Silversea sells at $1300psf. Also Laguna is going enbloc for an astronomical sum. These condos are all next to the ECP. Is one expressway different from another? I believe noise is the main issue here as with generous planting of trees & shrubs much of the dust & smog can be trapped.

both are just as bad ...
AYE noisy dusty no view no ERP

ECP noisy dusty SEAview ERP both ways ...
people pay more for the seaview . .. and the ERP increase cost .. so they build that into the cost ..hence they are more ex than those along AYE

like i said before long ago .. our east coast sea also not nice ..wait till you see Hampton


so to me both are lousy

[xebay11]

Is there any difference between AYE & ECP? Why is it that no one bats an eyelid when Silversea sells at $1300psf. Also Laguna is going enbloc for an astronomical sum. These condos are all next to the ECP. Is one expressway different from another? I believe noise is the main issue here as with generous planting of trees & shrubs much of the dust & smog can be trapped.

You compare ECP to AYE and say no difference? Sorry I cant help you there, the differences are just too much to list. Hint, if you like the full unblocked views of chimnney stacks, go right ahead with 100 Trees Ask your Botannia Neighbours on the Panoramic factory views.

[Lucas]

You compare ECP to AYE and say no difference? Sorry I cant help you there, the differences are just too much to list. Hint, if you like the full unblocked views of chimnney stacks, go right ahead with 100 Trees Ask your Botannia Neighbours on the Panoramic factory views.

East Coast ground is not as safe as west. Everyone knows that from the last few sumatra earthquakes. The whole stretch of east coast is on reclaim land . West coast side ground made of granite! Now Psf in west still relatively cheaper than east, so from investment viewpoint, many ppl are now looking west, whether got aye or factories.

[proud owner]

East Coast ground is not as safe as west. Everyone knows that from the last few sumatra earthquakes. The whole stretch of east coast is on reclaim land . West coast side ground made of granite! Now Psf in west still relatively cheaper than east, so from investment viewpoint, many ppl are now looking west, whether got aye or factories.

i have a house and a condo on the west .. not beyond clementi road ..

both give very good rental yield

why i choose west ... firstly fengshui reason ..i belong to west group ...

second .. it is so close to town and CBD .. alot of people think east coast is near to town .. is it not ...from my house to CBD ..door(house) to door (office) 9 mins drive ... 25 mins by bus (peak hr) ... and future MRT is a nice 8 mins walk ..

east coast will have to wait till at least 2020 before theres MRT ...

[jsh]

You compare ECP to AYE and say no difference? Sorry I cant help you there, the differences are just too much to list. Hint, if you like the full unblocked views of chimnney stacks, go right ahead with 100 Trees Ask your Botannia Neighbours on the Panoramic factory views.

Maybe I should be more specific here. When I ask that question I am referring to noise & pollution . As for the views it has already been built into the price. What I am saying is : Is there any difference in the noise & pollution levels between the 2 expressways?

[jonleelk]

its immaterial whether u buy or not. u dont want to pay its your wish but u must understand that clever sizing of the units thus ensuring a lower quantum will attract buyers.price psf may be high but for a 2 b/rm it cost 700+k so quite affordable.

so long as they make the facilities very good & the finishings of superior quality i think buyers will bite. its afterall a 956years property.

I was actually referring to, why pay $900++ psf for hundred trees and wait 4 years when the parc / carabelle / botannia still have unoccupied units that u can get for $850 psf immediately? The whole area around there would more or less be the same price in the long term.

[Honesty]

I was actually referring to, why pay $900++ psf for hundred trees and wait 4 years when the parc / carabelle / botannia still have unoccupied units that u can get for $850 psf immediately? The whole area around there would more or less be the same price in the long term.

Reason is, one you have to start paying the housing loan of $3,000 to $4,000 per month after 3 months of completion of the property and the other you only need to pay 20% now and wait for the price to increase over the 4 years and sell it away for a profit.

But looking at all these so call "smart investors" they are actually not smart, at these prices now so high and the chances of increasing to next level are very slim.

We are not in the share market that prices can always go up and up to the next higher level, we are talking about affordability.

If our income do not increase to the next level high, then how are we going to pay our housing loan.

[jonleelk]

Reason is, one you have to start paying the housing loan of $3,000 to $4,000 per month after 3 months of completion of the property and the other you only need to pay 20% now and wait for the price to increase over the 4 years and sell it away for a profit.

But looking at all these so call "smart investors" they are actually not smart, at these prices now so high and the chances of increasing to next level are very slim.

We are not in the share market that prices can always go up and up to the next higher level, we are talking about affordability.

If our income do not increase to the next level high, then how are we going to pay our housing loan.

Agree, but not forgetting u will get rental immediately for carabelle/botannia/infiniti as new units are always more rental friendly.

How high can West Coast area goes? If it goes to $1200 psf, those who bought carabelle/botannia/infiniti will stand to make 100% profit. At the current peak where price is already considered crazy, this area is still $850 psf. Only The Parc which launched durrng the even crazier 2007 was selling at only $1000 psf then, and dropped to $850 psf now.

If CDL is selling at $950 psf...they will be just like FEO who already factor in the short term capital appreciation, with the fact that they got the land cheap (relatively).

[xebay11]

East Coast ground is not as safe as west. Everyone knows that from the last few sumatra earthquakes. The whole stretch of east coast is on reclaim land . West coast side ground made of granite! Now Psf in west still relatively cheaper than east, so from investment viewpoint, many ppl are now looking west, whether got aye or factories.

Not all East Coast ground is on reclaimed land, please study your geography, and also Indonesia is closer to Western Singapore.

[xebay11]

Maybe I should be more specific here. When I ask that question I am referring to noise & pollution . As for the views it has already been built into the price. What I am saying is : Is there any difference in the noise & pollution levels between the 2 expressways?

Frankly I would not chose both.

[xebay11]

i have a house and a condo on the west .. not beyond clementi road ..

both give very good rental yield

why i choose west ... firstly fengshui reason ..i belong to west group ...

second .. it is so close to town and CBD .. alot of people think east coast is near to town .. is it not ...from my house to CBD ..door(house) to door (office) 9 mins drive ... 25 mins by bus (peak hr) ... and future MRT is a nice 8 mins walk ..

east coast will have to wait till at least 2020 before theres MRT ...

East Coast is closer to not just as to central CBD, but Suntec and Rochor area as well, this is moot point as it really all depends on where you work.